LeBron

[markketch]

Um, blocking the shot while kicking a man in the jibblies ain't legal either just because you blocked it first and the refs aren't suppose to interview you to see if you meant to hit him or not. 

A leg is much different than a hand following a natural path of motion through the ball.  

Incendental contact is not a basketball term.  It's a football term.  Contact is contact in basketball and it it impedes the shot, it is illegal.

Wow, you just proved my point right.  Since LeBron blocke the ball (ball is "dead" from the shot) and then hit his hand, he did NOT impede the shot.  To impede a shot, contact would need to made with the player first, not the ball.

By your theory, when PP up fakes you and you land on him as he goes up, it's NOT a foul because you didn't mean to?  Law help us.

Where the heck did you pull that crap from? That is in no way what I'm saying...way to steeeeetch this way out of line, again.

[RAcker]

LeCrabDribble IS soft.  Thus why he will not beat a healthy Celtics team with or without homecourt.  Anybody that lies on the floor for 20 seconds or so after a foul every night (especially at his size) is soft.

Get the man some Kotex and some Midol.  He's already worried about the C's in the playoffs.  He SHOULD hope for a series rematch, but I get the impression from their head to head games that he cannot believe the C's aren't frightened of him like every other team in the league.  This is a soft mindset.  I bet he is hoping we get knocked out before meeting up with him, and this makes him a coward.

Oh, you talked to LeBron and he said he's worried?  

Maybe he can borrow Paul's wheelchair?

I don't know about that, but I'm sure Paul would let him try on his championship ring.  

TP sir.  Let him try on the ring and tell him that HE is a WITNESS.

[markketch]

And you can tell he is not worried?

Which is exactly my point - there is no reason to imply or assume either.  Thanks for agreeing.

[RAcker]

Wow, you just proved my point right.  Since LeBron blocke the ball (ball is "dead" from the shot) and then hit his hand, he did NOT impede the shot.  To impede a shot, contact would need to made with the player first, not the ball. 

The ball is dead as soon as contact is made on a blocked shot?  Wow.  Bill Russell would have a lot to learn from you, sir, after the years he spent cleanly blocking shots and rebounding his own block to start a fast break. 

Oh, but that's basketball from a champion, which LeCrab and the city of Cleveland wouldn't know much about.

[crownsy]

Um, blocking the shot while kicking a man in the jibblies ain't legal either just because you blocked it first and the refs aren't suppose to interview you to see if you meant to hit him or not. 

A leg is much different than a hand following a natural path of motion through the ball.  

Incendental contact is not a basketball term.  It's a football term.  Contact is contact in basketball and it it impedes the shot, it is illegal.

Wow, you just proved my point right.  Since LeBron blocke the ball (ball is "dead" from the shot) and then hit his hand, he did NOT impede the shot.  To impede a shot, contact would need to made with the player first, not the ball.

By your theory, when PP up fakes you and you land on him as he goes up, it's NOT a foul because you didn't mean to?  Law help us.

Where the heck did you pull that crap from? That is in no way what I'm saying...way to steeeeetch this way out of line, again.

yea, again, i hate to be the one agreeing with the cavs fan, but none of those examples remotly reflect incidentaly contact post shot block. they are all clearly quite intentoinal, or inpact the shooters right to a follow through.

if you guys are so sure your right, seriously, post the rule that says you cant make contact post block as long as it doesn't inpeed the shooters natural motion.

[markketch]

The ball is dead as soon as contact is made on a blocked shot?  Wow.  Bill Russell would have a lot to learn from you, sir, after the years he spent cleanly blocking shots and rebounding his own block to start a fast break. 

Oh, but that's basketball from a champion, which LeCrab and the city of Cleveland wouldn't know much about.

Wow, you're really struggling here to understand a very simple concept.

The ball is "dead from the shot" - not from play. I.E. when the ball is blocked, if a player follows through and makes incidental contact, he is not impeding the ball because it is "dead from the shot".

Would you like a picture drawn?

[RAcker]

Announcement everyone!  You can now take mad swipes at shots and as long as you touch some leather a split second before rapping a guy across the forearm, this is legal!

Ask this ketchup guy.  He'll tell ya.

[NoraG1]

And you can tell he is not worried?

Which is exactly my point - there is no reason to imply or assume either.  Thanks for agreeing.

I didn't.

[markketch]

yea, again, i hate to be the one agreeing with the cavs fan, but none of those examples remotly reflect incidentaly contact post shot block.

We have to be violating some unwritten rule, don't we? We need to disagree on something to balance the world again.

[crownsy]

Announcement everyone!  You can now take mad swipes at shots and as long as you touch some leather a split second before rapping a guy across the forearm, this is legal!

Ask this ketchup guy.  He'll tell ya.

ok, clearly your not reading any posts at this point.


I know its fun to pick on the cavs fan, but try to at least make us not look like posters on lakersground who can't comprehend an argument.

[RAcker]

Um, blocking the shot while kicking a man in the jibblies ain't legal either just because you blocked it first and the refs aren't suppose to interview you to see if you meant to hit him or not. 

A leg is much different than a hand following a natural path of motion through the ball.  

Incendental contact is not a basketball term.  It's a football term.  Contact is contact in basketball and it it impedes the shot, it is illegal.

Wow, you just proved my point right.  Since LeBron blocke the ball (ball is "dead" from the shot) and then hit his hand, he did NOT impede the shot.  To impede a shot, contact would need to made with the player first, not the ball.

By your theory, when PP up fakes you and you land on him as he goes up, it's NOT a foul because you didn't mean to?  Law help us.

Where the heck did you pull that crap from? That is in no way what I'm saying...way to steeeeetch this way out of line, again.

yea, again, i hate to be the one agreeing with the cavs fan, but none of those examples remotly reflect incidentaly contact post shot block. they are all clearly quite intentoinal, or inpact the shooters right to a follow through.

if you guys are so sure your right, seriously, post the rule that says you cant make contact post block as long as it doesn't inpeed the shooters natural motion.

You need to read the entire string.  You are actually agreeing with me.  It's ketchup that says that incidental contact during the follow through is allowed.

[crownsy]

Um, blocking the shot while kicking a man in the jibblies ain't legal either just because you blocked it first and the refs aren't suppose to interview you to see if you meant to hit him or not. 

A leg is much different than a hand following a natural path of motion through the ball.  

Incendental contact is not a basketball term.  It's a football term.  Contact is contact in basketball and it it impedes the shot, it is illegal.

Wow, you just proved my point right.  Since LeBron blocke the ball (ball is "dead" from the shot) and then hit his hand, he did NOT impede the shot.  To impede a shot, contact would need to made with the player first, not the ball.

By your theory, when PP up fakes you and you land on him as he goes up, it's NOT a foul because you didn't mean to?  Law help us.

Where the heck did you pull that crap from? That is in no way what I'm saying...way to steeeeetch this way out of line, again.

yea, again, i hate to be the one agreeing with the cavs fan, but none of those examples remotly reflect incidentaly contact post shot block. they are all clearly quite intentoinal, or inpact the shooters right to a follow through.

if you guys are so sure your right, seriously, post the rule that says you cant make contact post block as long as it doesn't inpeed the shooters natural motion.

You need to read the entire string.  You are actually agreeing with me.  It's ketchup that says that incidental contact during the follow through is allowed.

nope, i am not in fact agreeing with you.

again, if you think your right, go google the rule that says your not allowed to touch a shooter incidently as long as it doesn't affect his follow through.

none of your crazy examples of people booting shooters in the nuts during a shot even remotly reflect what we were discussing.


www.google.com

[markketch]

You need to read the entire string.  You are actually agreeing with me.  It's ketchup that says that incidental contact during the follow through is allowed.

It IS allowed. If the shot is effectively blocked, incidental contact does NOT impede the shot and is NOT a foul.

What is so hard to understand about this? It's a very simple concept that has existed for decades in the NBA.

[RAcker]

To clarify, you are not allow to hit a man during his shooting motion, including follow through with any part of your body whether you get a piece of the shot or not.  Refs don't always call this correctly, but that is the rule.

[crownsy]

To clarify, you are not allow to hit a man during his shooting motion, including follow through with any part of your body whether you get a piece of the shot or not.  Refs don't always call this correctly, but that is the rule.

really?

Still waiting for that rule qoute. the NBA rule book is online, just type that in and see what comes back.

you are allowed contact post block as long as it does not in fact effect the shooters follow through, on that you are correct. This contact didn't, nor do most clean blocks.

I'll wait, TP's in hand.