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James Posey over TA?
« on: March 15, 2009, 07:54:15 PM »

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Re: James Posey over TA?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2009, 07:58:02 PM »

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It's obvious Posey was better then TA and still is even on the Hornets. Do you think Heat found a guy after they won a championship to replace him? No, I don't think so we haven't and won't find another Posey.

Re: James Posey over TA?
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2009, 07:58:38 PM »

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Re: James Posey over TA?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2009, 08:00:14 PM »

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Um, yeah.  Fair and balanced.

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Re: James Posey over TA?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2009, 08:20:24 PM »

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I prefer Posey over TA because Posey has a basketball IQ and can dribble.

Re: James Posey over TA?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2009, 08:32:23 PM »

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I prefer Posey over TA because Posey has a basketball IQ and can dribble.

And is clutch, and is injured less.

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Re: James Posey over TA?
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2009, 08:37:51 PM »

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We better not get a different Center becuase Kendrick Perkins' 6 and 6 were really more than just what you see in the box score, his team attitude and winning spirit were what made him the MVP of banner 17, he is truly irreplaceable. Come on guys, enough with the James Posey, I loved Posey and everything he did for the team but its starting to get ridiculous.

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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2009, 08:38:26 PM »

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Um, yeah.  Fair and balanced.

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Re: James Posey over TA?
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2009, 08:47:27 PM »

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Posey $$$ = Allen $$$ X 4 (about) if you follow me here.  So are we saying that you have to like Posey 4 times as much as Tony Allen to pick him for the money or is money simply not a factor.

If money is not a factor, how far do you go?  Why not compare Tony Allen to Richard Hamilton (he was a 6th man for a while) or heck, why not Carmelo Anthony, he might be available or maybe Vince Carter (who could be had) either would be an awesome 6th man.

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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2009, 09:08:59 PM »

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Posey $$$ = Allen $$$ X 4 (about) if you follow me here.  So are we saying that you have to like Posey 4 times as much as Tony Allen to pick him for the money or is money simply not a factor.

If money is not a factor, how far do you go?  Why not compare Tony Allen to Richard Hamilton (he was a 6th man for a while) or heck, why not Carmelo Anthony, he might be available or maybe Vince Carter (who could be had) either would be an awesome 6th man.

also a factor is that we'd be stuck with an OLD, OVERPAID reserve player that is past him prime in the middle of us trying to develop youth under the big three.

Re: James Posey over TA?
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2009, 10:18:58 PM »

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The mistake Ainge made wasn't necessarily passing on Posey.

It was failing to acknowledge - and thus replace - the variety of skills that Posey brought to the table, which have been recited on this board ad nauseum. The concept of versatility totally escaped him.

And, the failure to have a workable plan B if Posey signed elsewhere beyond year five of the failed Tony Allen experiment. At what point will Celtics management admit that he's an end-of-the-bench guy at best?

We still don't have a competent wing on the bench. That's Ainge's mistake.
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Posey $$$ = Allen $$$ X 4 (about) if you follow me here.  So are we saying that you have to like Posey 4 times as much as Tony Allen to pick him for the money or is money simply not a factor.

If money is not a factor, how far do you go?  Why not compare Tony Allen to Richard Hamilton (he was a 6th man for a while) or heck, why not Carmelo Anthony, he might be available or maybe Vince Carter (who could be had) either would be an awesome 6th man.

also a factor is that we'd be stuck with an OLD, OVERPAID reserve player that is past him prime in the middle of us trying to develop youth under the big three.

Honestly, who cares about the subpar late first round/second round "youth" we are going to be trying to develop 3 years from now when the Big Three are in decline?  Is one more year of Posey (since Danny supposedly offered him 3 years) really going to set us back that far in the rebuilding process?  Personally, I'd rather make the team stronger the next few years than worry about a rebuilding process 3+ years from now. 

I do agree with the notion that this topic is getting old and serves little point; however, I'm also sick of the notion that 4 years of Posey is somehow going to damage our chances of rebuilding in 3 1/2 years. 

Re: James Posey over TA?
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2009, 10:31:46 PM »

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It's indeed an old topic. The barn door is closed on this season and we're going to sink or swim in the playoffs with this roster.

But your point is well taken. The idea that Posey's contract would somehow derail the rebuilding of the Celtics in three years is a strawman, but not as much a strawman as the notion that we should be focusing on those three years down the road instead of maximizing the prime of the Big Three.

Those points are nonsense - and water over the bridge.
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Re: James Posey over TA?
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2009, 09:12:34 AM »

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The mistake Ainge made wasn't necessarily passing on Posey.

It was failing to acknowledge - and thus replace - the variety of skills that Posey brought to the table, which have been recited on this board ad nauseum. The concept of versatility totally escaped him.

And, the failure to have a workable plan B if Posey signed elsewhere beyond year five of the failed Tony Allen experiment. At what point will Celtics management admit that he's an end-of-the-bench guy at best?

We still don't have a competent wing on the bench. That's Ainge's mistake.
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2009, 10:03:59 AM »

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The mistake Ainge made wasn't necessarily passing on Posey.

It was failing to acknowledge - and thus replace - the variety of skills that Posey brought to the table, which have been recited on this board ad nauseum. The concept of versatility totally escaped him.

And, the failure to have a workable plan B if Posey signed elsewhere beyond year five of the failed Tony Allen experiment. At what point will Celtics management admit that he's an end-of-the-bench guy at best?

We still don't have a competent wing on the bench. That's Ainge's mistake.
enter bill walker

I like Bill, but don't you think its a tad bit early to call that a replacment for posey's strengths? The kid just started earning 10 minutes a game, and who knows if that will last.

I hope Bill plays gangbusters and gives us everything james did and more, but im not ready to conceed that this was some sort of master plan by ainge.
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