Cut Marbury, bring back Cassell

[Celtic]

Give him some time, we'll all be eating our words.

[D Dub]

Sam Cassell will not provide us the backup role for Rondo as last year. Even then House was given the playing time over Cassell towards the playoffs. How will that change with a guy we cut to make room for Marbury?

If Doc didn't play him all season I highly doubt he will do it now. Marbury is starting to learn the plays and get comfortable. It's not just rust that he has to shake off it's coming into a whole new environment. When he was in New York he was the star player and wasn't around the Big Three. Give him a couple more weeks he should fit into his role under Doc. I have confidence he will start to play more better when KG, Rondo, and Big Baby are back. This added pressure on him won't help at all.

If he doesn't want the added pressure, maybe he should hit a freaking shot then.  What is he, like 1-30 in his comeback???

Or how about not getting schooled by backup pg's like Will Bynum.  Is that too much to ask???

[crownsy]

Sam Cassell will not provide us the backup role for Rondo as last year. Even then House was given the playing time over Cassell towards the playoffs. How will that change with a guy we cut to make room for Marbury?

If Doc didn't play him all season I highly doubt he will do it now. Marbury is starting to learn the plays and get comfortable. It's not just rust that he has to shake off it's coming into a whole new environment. When he was in New York he was the star player and wasn't around the Big Three. Give him a couple more weeks he should fit into his role under Doc. I have confidence he will start to play more better when KG, Rondo, and Big Baby are back. This added pressure on him won't help at all.

If he doesn't want the added pressure, maybe he should hit a freaking shot then.  What is he, like 1-30 in his comeback???

Or how about not getting schooled by backup pg's like Will Bynum.  Is that too much to ask???

second game back after 13 months without an NBA speed game and zero practices with the team at the time. seems like a fair game to judge him on. 


wait, wait, i need more emotes to counter multiple question marks.


 

p.s ddub, just playing around

[CelticsWhat35]

mmmmmK, well wake me up when Marbury has a good game then.  Because I don't see it happening.  

He looks washed up to me. Not rusty like PJ or Sam last year, but washed up like Antoine Walker looked this year.


I appreciate that he has had such a good attitude and is working hard, but he just isn't getting it done on the court.  Sam Cassell, who btw was released prior to 3/1 and is eligible for the playoffs, can handle the ball better and shoot it better than Steff right now, no question.  

Steph became an All Star on account of his quickness.  That is now gone.

Contrasted by Sam's offense, which is not lost with age (post up turn-around J).  In fact, he can be quite effective against a team with a short backcourt - like Cleveland.  Sam can score at will in the post agaisnt Mo Williams/Boobie Gibson to this day.  Marbury on the otherhand, is completely outmatched against that team.

already happened, his debut. sparked the bench unit in a brilliant rally against the pacers, setting it up for the starters to seal it.

you must have been napping.

Good point.  Also, after the game (or maybe at the next practice), Pierce was asked if he was surprised that Marbury was able to be effective in his first game, and he compared it to when he was injured.  His first game back, he played a great game cuz he was feeding off the adrenaline from just getting back on the court.  Then he followed it up with 4-5 bad games before he got his timing back.  I suspect that's all it is with Marbury.  We're not asking him to be an all-star any more.  He just needs to be a solid back up that can attack the basket, find the open man and hit some shots.  I refuse to believe a guy that has been such a good scorer all his life has suddenly forgotten how to do that.

[LarBrd33]

We are playing .500 ball in the marbury era... this is just part of Danny's master plan to cut him before the playoffs so we can make a significant turnaround... just like every other team who has ever dumped that loser.

[D Dub]

mmmmmK, well wake me up when Marbury has a good game then.  Because I don't see it happening.  

He looks washed up to me. Not rusty like PJ or Sam last year, but washed up like Antoine Walker looked this year.


I appreciate that he has had such a good attitude and is working hard, but he just isn't getting it done on the court.  Sam Cassell, who btw was released prior to 3/1 and is eligible for the playoffs, can handle the ball better and shoot it better than Steff right now, no question.  

Steph became an All Star on account of his quickness.  That is now gone.

Contrasted by Sam's offense, which is not lost with age (post up turn-around J).  In fact, he can be quite effective against a team with a short backcourt - like Cleveland.  Sam can score at will in the post agaisnt Mo Williams/Boobie Gibson to this day.  Marbury on the otherhand, is completely outmatched against that team.

already happened, his debut. sparked the bench unit in a brilliant rally against the pacers, setting it up for the starters to seal it.

you must have been napping.

also, sam;s post up offense not lost with age? did he forget it last year when he shot an abysmal percentage?

sam was gawd awful last year. he didn't pass, he had one good game, total, against the spurs.

he was an epic failure on the court, its why he got benched in favor of the man he was brought in to replace. and you know what? if steph doesn't step it up over the next 18, im perfectly happy to have eddie do it again.

lastly, you mention we need him for Cleavland's back court? funny then that he was awful the first two games of that series and got benched for eddie for good against them then.

Oh yeah, forgot about that epic 8 point performance against Indiana.  Funny he was one of the few on the team with a +/- in the red that game.  That being his best game as Celtic should tell you something.

I don't think its fair to compare Clevelands backcourt last year to this year with the addition of Mo Wiliams.  He can't defend nearly as well as Delonte (who would get the assignment on Ray this year as he is now a full time 2).  Sam would get the shorter combo of Boobie and Mo.  Against those two, I'd rather have Sam Cassell, especially in a championship series.  How has Stef faired in championship series throughout his career?    

[D Dub]

Sam Cassell will not provide us the backup role for Rondo as last year. Even then House was given the playing time over Cassell towards the playoffs. How will that change with a guy we cut to make room for Marbury?

If Doc didn't play him all season I highly doubt he will do it now. Marbury is starting to learn the plays and get comfortable. It's not just rust that he has to shake off it's coming into a whole new environment. When he was in New York he was the star player and wasn't around the Big Three. Give him a couple more weeks he should fit into his role under Doc. I have confidence he will start to play more better when KG, Rondo, and Big Baby are back. This added pressure on him won't help at all.

If he doesn't want the added pressure, maybe he should hit a freaking shot then.  What is he, like 1-30 in his comeback???

Or how about not getting schooled by backup pg's like Will Bynum.  Is that too much to ask???

second game back after 13 months without an NBA speed game and zero practices with the team at the time. seems like a fair game to judge him on. 


wait, wait, i need more emotes to counter multiple question marks.


 

p.s ddub, just playing around

Listen, I would like nothing more than to eat my words here.  If we can capture lighting the bottle with Marbury this year then great.

Watching him play so far, I am just being objective here.  He has looked downright horrible and appears to have lost the skills that made him a great player.

Hopefully I am wrong.

[Bankshot]

Sam Cassell will not provide us the backup role for Rondo as last year. Even then House was given the playing time over Cassell towards the playoffs. How will that change with a guy we cut to make room for Marbury?

If Doc didn't play him all season I highly doubt he will do it now. Marbury is starting to learn the plays and get comfortable. It's not just rust that he has to shake off it's coming into a whole new environment. When he was in New York he was the star player and wasn't around the Big Three. Give him a couple more weeks he should fit into his role under Doc. I have confidence he will start to play more better when KG, Rondo, and Big Baby are back. This added pressure on him won't help at all.

If he doesn't want the added pressure, maybe he should hit a freaking shot then.  What is he, like 1-30 in his comeback???

Or how about not getting schooled by backup pg's like Will Bynum.  Is that too much to ask???

second game back after 13 months without an NBA speed game and zero practices with the team at the time. seems like a fair game to judge him on. 


wait, wait, i need more emotes to counter multiple question marks.


 

p.s ddub, just playing around

Listen, I would like nothing more than to eat my words here.  If we can capture lighting the bottle with Marbury this year then great.

Watching him play so far, I am just being objective here.  He has looked downright horrible and appears to have lost the skills that made him a great player.

Hopefully I am wrong.

Settle down.  You'll be eating your words soon enough.

[cordobes]

At least Sam can bring the ball across half court and hit a few shots.
 

I know we are all trying to give Stef the benefit of the doubt and give him time to 'shake off the rust'.  But lets be real here, he has been really bad.  Like D-leauge/YMCA bad.  At least when he was losing with the Knicks he was still a NBA caliber player.  I don't think anyone expected him to be this far removed from his former self. 

He has lost his shooting touch, is too slow to penetrate and is getting the ball stolen from him by backup pg's regularly.  His whole game was predicated on quickness, and he just no longer possesses that trait and can't be effective without it.

Its only a low risk move if you can identify when it isn't working and are willing to rip the band aid off.   
 

Very true, it's important to keep that in mind, just in case. I believe Marbury will improve, but if he doesn't until the playoffs, it's time to consider the OP idea.

[Shots]

Cassell? What? I say bring back Will Solomon, that guy could play!!

[Redz]

Cassell? What? I say bring back Will Solomon, that guy could play!!

Let's go for broke and BRING BACK ANTOINE! 

[BigAlTheFuture]

Overreaction threads. Love these..

[dark_lord]

 

[Redz]

 

Thanks dark_lord, you just made me postpone starting my diet...I'm not that bad!

[dark_lord]

 

Thanks dark_lord, you just made me postpone starting my diet...I'm not that bad!

glad i could help bud