Celtics (49-15) at Heat (33-29) 3/11

[MattD]

Late to the party... the boxscore tells me we are the Sonics and this is 2005, valid assessment?

Haha, TP!  Well, Luke Ridnour would be an improvement on our PG play and Leon has yet to shoot a 3-pointer, but other than that...yeah, pretty much.

Including Mikki Moore reprising Danny Fortson's fouls-per-minute rate.

[Jaycelt]

What happens in the fourth quarter when the refs have fouled Perk, Walker, House, Moore, and Powe out of the game?

The refs are calling the game tight, but I'm not sure that they're calling the game unfairly.  People ask for officials to call games "by the book", and when they do, people get upset that our guys are fouling out.

Are there fouls that were called that you disagreed with?  If not, I don't think it's fair to say that the "refs have fouled [players] out" -- it's the players who are fouling themselves out, in my opinion.

Are you serious??? I am all for them calling it by the book as long as the do it both ways. We have half our team in foul trouble (3 or more) a quarter in a half in.

Sure.  And the reason the refs called fouls on Mikki and Walker was because they fouled the players they were guarding, for instance.  Just because we commit a lot of fouls doesn't mean it's a conspiracy.  It's not like the calls -- especially the ones on Moore / Walker -- are phantom ones.

Just because we commit a lot of fouls doesn't mean they aren't committing any. O'Neal has hacked people a ton yet has one foul. Same with Maglore.

Great.  Your argument should be that the Heat players should be in foul trouble as well, then, not that the Celtics players shouldn't be.  For example, the reason Mikki Moore picked up four fouls in a quarter is because he's a horrible and undisciplined defender, not because of the refs.

To be fair Moore had to pick up Wade and two of those fouls were star calls...the first and the fourth.
I've got to agree that Wade and O'Neal could both be in foul trouble if the game were being called the same way on both ends.

[nickagneta]

What happens in the fourth quarter when the refs have fouled Perk, Walker, House, Moore, and Powe out of the game?

The refs are calling the game tight, but I'm not sure that they're calling the game unfairly.  People ask for officials to call games "by the book", and when they do, people get upset that our guys are fouling out.

Are there fouls that were called that you disagreed with?  If not, I don't think it's fair to say that the "refs have fouled [players] out" -- it's the players who are fouling themselves out, in my opinion.

Are you serious??? I am all for them calling it by the book as long as the do it both ways. We have half our team in foul trouble (3 or more) a quarter in a half in.

Sure.  And the reason the refs called fouls on Mikki and Walker was because they fouled the players they were guarding, for instance.  Just because we commit a lot of fouls doesn't mean it's a conspiracy.  It's not like the calls -- especially the ones on Moore / Walker -- are phantom ones.

Just because we commit a lot of fouls doesn't mean they aren't committing any. O'Neal has hacked people a ton yet has one foul. Same with Maglore.

Great.  Your argument should be that the Heat players should be in foul trouble as well, then, not that the Celtics players shouldn't be.  For example, the reason Mikki Moore picked up four fouls in a quarter is because he's a horrible and undisciplined defender, not because of the refs.

what about Perk's fouls? i understand that his hand was there, but is that a foul that needs to be called? it looks like their just calling EVERYTHING

Was it a foul?  If it was, we can't complain if the refs call it.  Yes, they should call it evenly the other way, too, but the Celtics are breaking the rules and are getting called for it.

Roy it's all semantics. One can look at it as the way it should be called is the way it is being called for the Heat, hence, although, by the book the Celtics are fouling, they should not have been called for as many if the game was called for them the way it was for the Heat. So, the refs are fouling them out.

I have no problem with either by the book orlet the boys play attitudes. Just let it be the same for both teams.

[RAcker]

One thing that first half told me was, Marbury needs to go to the basket more.  The few times he has (even though he has missed all of his FGA) something good has happened like offensive rebounds.

Other than that, they need to get more stops on D as a team without fouling so that we can push the lead up more.  If we let the Heat stick around, Wade will be scary.

[ben]

LETS GO CELTICS

[USG]

XFD "Doc did a great job...he got Paul Pierce 4 minutes of rest in the first half, he got Ray Allen 4 minutes of rest in the first half."

[USG]

LETS GO CELTICS

*Clap-Clap-Clapclapclap*

[nickagneta]

So whats most likely to happen:

Leon goes for 20/20

Ray goes for 50

Marbury goes 0 for 10

We actually see Giddens in meaningful minutes.

[celticinorlando]

hey less than a minute in and perk gets #3

[celticinorlando]

nice way to start boys..9-0 run heat....

[nickagneta]

TIMEOUT

[ben]

wow

[celticinorlando]

game over folks.....no energy...2 turnovers and a foul....

[RebusRankin]

TP to everybody for the foul frustration from me.

[Kwhit10]

I go make a milkshake and there is a 9-0 run...