"Championship Odds"

[Hoops]

I'd put odds something like this:

Cleveland -- 32.5%
Boston -- 30%
San Antonio - 17.5%
Los Angeles - 15%
Orlando - 4%
Other - 1%

I really think whoever comes out of the East is going to win.  I think if Boston or Cleveland meets LA in the finals again, they'll win.  San Antonio matches up a little better with the East in my opinion, but the Eastern teams still need to be the favorite.

I'll sign off on these odds. Although, I'd put Orlando at more like 2%. Like you, I also believe the East winner is going to take the title.

I'm fine with giving Cleveland the edge odds-wise. But the bigger point is that it's more of a toss-up than anything between Cleveland and Boston. I want to win as much as any Celtics fan and having clear-cut odds would, on some level, be nice. But this Cleveland/Boston matchup has the potential to be a mano a mano classic. I'm very much looking forward to it. Of course I hope Boston wins - and I know that can - but the question of whether they will actually rise to the occasion is what has me intrigued/excited.

[wdleehi]

These odds are pretty much pointless. 


It is using all stats (including stats of a KG-less Celtics).  And if I am correct, doesn't he make the most recent stats worth more then the older stats?

When KG comes back healthy, watch the Celtics odds increase again.

[rondo987]

These odds are pretty much pointless. 


It is using all stats (including stats of a KG-less Celtics).  And if I am correct, doesn't he make the most recent stats worth more then the older stats?

When KG comes back healthy, watch the Celtics odds increase again.

Who knows how Hollinger comes up with this stuff. The guy takes a bunch of things into account. He analyzes basketball using stats and mathematics, and we all know that isn't the right way to do it. I just started this thread to get the people opinions as to what they themselves think the chances are for the Celts to repeat this year.

[angryguy77]

I'd put odds something like this:

Cleveland -- 32.5%
Boston -- 30%
San Antonio - 17.5%
Los Angeles - 15%
Orlando - 4%
Other - 1%

I really think whoever comes out of the East is going to win.  I think if Boston or Cleveland meets LA in the finals again, they'll win.  San Antonio matches up a little better with the East in my opinion, but the Eastern teams still need to be the favorite.

Why do you think the cavs would be favored? I see it as Kobe/james a wash and cleveland not being able to match LA's size. Just wondering what your take is.

[Edgar]

I'd put odds something like this:

Cleveland -- 32.5%
Boston -- 30%
San Antonio - 17.5%
Los Angeles - 15%
Orlando - 4%
Other - 1%

I really think whoever comes out of the East is going to win.  I think if Boston or Cleveland meets LA in the finals again, they'll win.  San Antonio matches up a little better with the East in my opinion, but the Eastern teams still need to be the favorite.

Why do you think the cavs would be favored? I see it as Kobe/james a wash and cleveland not being able to match LA's size. Just wondering what your take is.

i have to disagree
I personally think clev with varejao, Z ,smith and lorenzen and even bron
can perfectly match any combinations of bigs in the league

[Scalablob990]

I'd put odds something like this:

Cleveland -- 32.5%
Boston -- 30%
San Antonio - 17.5%
Los Angeles - 15%
Orlando - 4%
Other - 1%

I really think whoever comes out of the East is going to win.  I think if Boston or Cleveland meets LA in the finals again, they'll win.  San Antonio matches up a little better with the East in my opinion, but the Eastern teams still need to be the favorite.

Why do you think the cavs would be favored? I see it as Kobe/james a wash and cleveland not being able to match LA's size. Just wondering what your take is.

i have to disagree
I personally think clev with varejao, Z ,smith and lorenzen and even bron
can perfectly match any combinations of bigs in the league

The Lakers swept the series with Cleveland, and they swept us i'm sorry, but the Lakers are out for blood this season. Although this makes it more sweet since when we beat them I want to know the Zen Masters next excuse, the ignorant fat old fool.

[wdleehi]

I'd put odds something like this:

Cleveland -- 32.5%
Boston -- 30%
San Antonio - 17.5%
Los Angeles - 15%
Orlando - 4%
Other - 1%

I really think whoever comes out of the East is going to win.  I think if Boston or Cleveland meets LA in the finals again, they'll win.  San Antonio matches up a little better with the East in my opinion, but the Eastern teams still need to be the favorite.

Why do you think the cavs would be favored? I see it as Kobe/james a wash and cleveland not being able to match LA's size. Just wondering what your take is.

i have to disagree
I personally think clev with varejao, Z ,smith and lorenzen and even bron
can perfectly match any combinations of bigs in the league

The Lakers swept the series with Cleveland, and they swept us i'm sorry, but the Lakers are out for blood this season. Although this makes it more sweet since when we beat them I want to know the Zen Masters next excuse, the ignorant fat old fool.

Lakers win one game series with regular season officiating.


7 game series, we saw how the Lakers deal with the physical play they allow in the playoffs.  The physical type of play that both the Celtics and the Cavs provide. 

[Edgar]

I'd put odds something like this:

Cleveland -- 32.5%
Boston -- 30%
San Antonio - 17.5%
Los Angeles - 15%
Orlando - 4%
Other - 1%

I really think whoever comes out of the East is going to win.  I think if Boston or Cleveland meets LA in the finals again, they'll win.  San Antonio matches up a little better with the East in my opinion, but the Eastern teams still need to be the favorite.

Why do you think the cavs would be favored? I see it as Kobe/james a wash and cleveland not being able to match LA's size. Just wondering what your take is.

i have to disagree
I personally think clev with varejao, Z ,smith and lorenzen and even bron
can perfectly match any combinations of bigs in the league

The Lakers swept the series with Cleveland, and they swept us i'm sorry, but the Lakers are out for blood this season. Although this makes it more sweet since when we beat them I want to know the Zen Masters next excuse, the ignorant fat old fool.

Lakers win one game series with regular season officiating.


7 game series, we saw how the Lakers deal with the physical play they allow in the playoffs.  The physical type of play that both the Celtics and the Cavs provide. 

[angryguy77]

I'd put odds something like this:

Cleveland -- 32.5%
Boston -- 30%
San Antonio - 17.5%
Los Angeles - 15%
Orlando - 4%
Other - 1%

I really think whoever comes out of the East is going to win.  I think if Boston or Cleveland meets LA in the finals again, they'll win.  San Antonio matches up a little better with the East in my opinion, but the Eastern teams still need to be the favorite.

Why do you think the cavs would be favored? I see it as Kobe/james a wash and cleveland not being able to match LA's size. Just wondering what your take is.

i have to disagree
I personally think clev with varejao, Z ,smith and lorenzen and even bron
can perfectly match any combinations of bigs in the league

IMO I jus tthink the lakers have more talent than cleveland. LA controlled both games this year and I dont see a playoff atmospher making that big of a difference.

[wdleehi]

I'd put odds something like this:

Cleveland -- 32.5%
Boston -- 30%
San Antonio - 17.5%
Los Angeles - 15%
Orlando - 4%
Other - 1%

I really think whoever comes out of the East is going to win.  I think if Boston or Cleveland meets LA in the finals again, they'll win.  San Antonio matches up a little better with the East in my opinion, but the Eastern teams still need to be the favorite.

Why do you think the cavs would be favored? I see it as Kobe/james a wash and cleveland not being able to match LA's size. Just wondering what your take is.

i have to disagree
I personally think clev with varejao, Z ,smith and lorenzen and even bron
can perfectly match any combinations of bigs in the league

IMO I jus tthink the lakers have more talent than cleveland. LA controlled both games this year and I dont see a playoff atmospher making that big of a difference.

it is the physical play that is allowed.  And we saw how many of these same lakers respond to the physical play last year.

[Roy Hobbs]

I'd put odds something like this:

Cleveland -- 32.5%
Boston -- 30%
San Antonio - 17.5%
Los Angeles - 15%
Orlando - 4%
Other - 1%

I really think whoever comes out of the East is going to win.  I think if Boston or Cleveland meets LA in the finals again, they'll win.  San Antonio matches up a little better with the East in my opinion, but the Eastern teams still need to be the favorite.

Why do you think the cavs would be favored? I see it as Kobe/james a wash and cleveland not being able to match LA's size. Just wondering what your take is.

i have to disagree
I personally think clev with varejao, Z ,smith and lorenzen and even bron
can perfectly match any combinations of bigs in the league

IMO I jus tthink the lakers have more talent than cleveland. LA controlled both games this year and I dont see a playoff atmospher making that big of a difference.

it is the physical play that is allowed.  And we saw how many of these same lakers respond to the physical play last year.

Exactly.  I don't think players can intrinsically "get tougher"; these Lakers are the same team that got beat up physically and mentally last season.  Cleveland, on the other hand, matched our physicality last season (and our playoff defense, as well), and they're better this season.

[Eeyore III]

Lakers -- 35%
San Antonio -- 7%
Others in West -- 3%

Cleveland -- 30%
Celtics -- 20%
Others in East --5%

[Hoops]

I'd put odds something like this:

Cleveland -- 32.5%
Boston -- 30%
San Antonio - 17.5%
Los Angeles - 15%
Orlando - 4%
Other - 1%

I really think whoever comes out of the East is going to win.  I think if Boston or Cleveland meets LA in the finals again, they'll win.  San Antonio matches up a little better with the East in my opinion, but the Eastern teams still need to be the favorite.

Why do you think the cavs would be favored? I see it as Kobe/james a wash and cleveland not being able to match LA's size. Just wondering what your take is.

i have to disagree
I personally think clev with varejao, Z ,smith and lorenzen and even bron
can perfectly match any combinations of bigs in the league

IMO I jus tthink the lakers have more talent than cleveland. LA controlled both games this year and I dont see a playoff atmospher making that big of a difference.

it is the physical play that is allowed.  And we saw how many of these same lakers respond to the physical play last year.

It's not just the physical play. It's also the opportunity to gameplan for a team for up to 7 games. There's a lot more strategy involved. Kobe can be contained in a 7 game series (see Finals, NBA 2008). There's a very real chance that LeBron cannot be contained.

[rondo987]

I'd put odds something like this:

Cleveland -- 32.5%
Boston -- 30%
San Antonio - 17.5%
Los Angeles - 15%
Orlando - 4%
Other - 1%

I really think whoever comes out of the East is going to win.  I think if Boston or Cleveland meets LA in the finals again, they'll win.  San Antonio matches up a little better with the East in my opinion, but the Eastern teams still need to be the favorite.

Why do you think the cavs would be favored? I see it as Kobe/james a wash and cleveland not being able to match LA's size. Just wondering what your take is.

i have to disagree
I personally think clev with varejao, Z ,smith and lorenzen and even bron
can perfectly match any combinations of bigs in the league

IMO I jus tthink the lakers have more talent than cleveland. LA controlled both games this year and I dont see a playoff atmospher making that big of a difference.

it is the physical play that is allowed.  And we saw how many of these same lakers respond to the physical play last year.

It's not just the physical play. It's also the opportunity to gameplan for a team for up to 7 games. There's a lot more strategy involved. Kobe can be contained in a 7 game series (see Finals, NBA 2008). There's a very real chance that LeBron cannot be contained.

I'm not sure I agree with that. I know we beat them both, but I think overall Kobe's stat's were better than Lebron's against us in the playoffs last year. They both struggled, but if I remember correctly Lebron really didn't have a good game until game 7.

[Roy Hobbs]

I'm not sure I agree with that. I know we beat them both, but I think overall Kobe's stat's were better than Lebron's against us in the playoffs last year. They both struggled, but if I remember correctly Lebron really didn't have a good game until game 7.

It depends upon what you think is a "good game".  Game 5 he was certainly very good.  In the other games, he struggled with his shot, but killed us with assists and rebounds.  He scored 32+ in each of the last three games.

Stats are here: 

http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/pgl.cgi?player=jamesle01&year=2008

I don't see how Kobe was any better.  He struggled shooting nearly as much as Lebron did, but didn't really have big contributions in other areas to make up for it.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/pgl.cgi?player=bryanko01&year=2008