We haven't solved the problem

[BudweiserCeltic]

And why won't anyone who saw Posey defending Kobe badly be able to even point out the games (there were only 6 of them, it shouldn't be that difficult - nobody is asking for specific possessions) where that happened and instead opt to defy others to tell them what happened what they saw - when they are the ones who claim to have seen it?

The answer is quite obvious.

Maybe because you and me are the only ones online at the moment here? I think you're the only one here that has brought up game 6 in favor of Posey. How come no one else can come up with other moments when he guarded him well... wouldn't it be because the answer is quite obvious? Two can play this game, and it goes both ways.

[cordobes]

And why won't anyone who saw Posey defending Kobe badly be able to even point out the games (there were only 6 of them, it shouldn't be that difficult - nobody is asking for specific possessions) where that happened and instead opt to defy others to tell them what happened what they saw - when they are the ones who claim to have seen it?

The answer is quite obvious.

Maybe because you and me are the only ones online at the moment here? I think you're the only one here that has brought up game 6 in favor of Posey. How come no one else can come up with other moments when he guarded him well... wouldn't it be because the answer is quite obvious? Two can play this game, and it goes both ways.

Oh yes, the answer is equally quite obvious.

How do you think Posey defended Kobe in game 6, btw?

[BudweiserCeltic]

And why won't anyone who saw Posey defending Kobe badly be able to even point out the games (there were only 6 of them, it shouldn't be that difficult - nobody is asking for specific possessions) where that happened and instead opt to defy others to tell them what happened what they saw - when they are the ones who claim to have seen it?

The answer is quite obvious.

Maybe because you and me are the only ones online at the moment here? I think you're the only one here that has brought up game 6 in favor of Posey. How come no one else can come up with other moments when he guarded him well... wouldn't it be because the answer is quite obvious? Two can play this game, and it goes both ways.

Oh yes, the answer is equally quite obvious.

How do you think Posey defended Kobe in game 6, btw?

Don't have the game to rewatch it, but I'll see if I can get my hands of it. But I don't doubt the possibility of Posey having a good quarter against Kobe, while still holding my impressions of the games @ LA true.

[cordobes]

Pretty amazing you can't remember the quarter where Kobe was unable to make a single field goal! In the clinching game!

Yeah, we'll wait until someone actually comes up and says what games @LA were those when Posey was guarding Kobe.

After that, we'll proceed to LeBron. I'll use a different approach and quote what posters were saying about Posey's (and the team) defence on James during the series, after the games, etc. Hey, maybe we can even compare with what the same posters said about the same issue a few months later! I have a feeling this is going to be great and very clarifying.

It would be great to use the same methodology with Kobe, but the matter of fact is that there are basically no comments on the issue except for that game 6... I wonder why 

[BballTim]

I've already agreed with all of the people who feel that we have no shot at being a contender without Posey and PJ, temporarily installed New Orleans as clear title favorites for signing him (unfortunately they've been eclipsed by Cleveland, who just signed the all-star Joe Smith) and recommended that Danny offer Posey a max contract after his current deal expires. What more do you want?

Personally, I'd like you to point out who or when was said that:
-  we have no shot at being a contender without Posey and PJ
- New Orleans are clear title favorites
- Joe Smith is an All-Star
- recommended that Danny offer Posey a max contract after his current deal expires.

Can you provide some quotes and links, please? I need to know who to take seriously here.

  The post of mine that you quoted was facetious (or sarcastic) but that's often the case. Does that make sense to you? I would never make any of those comments seriously, but nonetheless I'm sure I've said all of them with the possible exception of Joe Smith being an all-star, but I might have said that also. I'm not really excited about the prospect of searching through all of my posts. Is it really important to you?

Really? Does that mean that nobody actually said that Joe Smith is an All-Star or that Posey will deliver the title to NO or that he should get a max contract? Because an absurd percentage of your posts are about arguing with the posters who allegedly wrote that stuff. Except that you're now saying nobody did, which means you spend most of your time arguing with..er... oh well, to each his own I guess, it's none of my business...

p.s. - and you just called Joe Smith an All-Star in your previous post... I'll quote it for you: "Cleveland, who just signed the all-star Joe Smith". 

  I think either you misunderstood or I poorly worded the first post you quoted:

  I've already agreed with all of the people who feel that we have no shot at being a contender without Posey and PJ, temporarily installed New Orleans as clear title favorites for signing him (unfortunately they've been eclipsed by Cleveland, who just signed the all-star Joe Smith) and recommended that Danny offer Posey a max contract after his current deal expires.

  Wasn't meant to read:

  I've already agreed with all of the people who:
  feel that we have no shot at being a contender without Posey and PJ
  temporarily installed New Orleans as clear title favorites for signing him (unfortunately they've been eclipsed by Cleveland, who just signed the all-star Joe Smith)
  recommended that Danny offer Posey a max contract after his current deal expires.

  It was meant I've:
  already agreed with all of the people who feel that we have no shot at being a contender without Posey and PJ
  temporarily installed New Orleans as clear title favorites for signing him (unfortunately they've been eclipsed by Cleveland, who just signed the all-star Joe Smith)
 recommended that Danny offer Posey a max contract after his current deal expires.

  See the difference? I wasn't saying that I was agreeing with people who installed NO as title favorites, I was saying that I've installed NO as favorites because they have Posey (in response to "nobody gives Posey any credit"). That's why my response was about whether I've said those things (I missed your "who said those things").

[cordobes]

BBallTim, who are you agreeing with after all? Do you think Joe Smith is an all-star or not? You said that you have already agreed with all of the people who feel that we have no shot at being a contender without Posey and PJ but who are those people? I'm a tad worried about you after reading your recent posts, I confess.

[BballTim]

BBallTim, who are you agreeing with after all? Do you think Joe Smith is an all-star or not? You said that you have already agreed with all of the people who feel that we have no shot at being a contender without Posey and PJ but who are those people? I'm a tad worried about you after reading your recent posts, I confess.

  Thanks for your concern. The poster I responded to, CoachBo, has said (more than a few times, I think)that our team without Posey and PJ had no shot at a title. Of course I don't think Smith is an all-star. Hence the "I would never make any of those comments seriously" comment I made.

[cordobes]

BBallTim, who are you agreeing with after all? Do you think Joe Smith is an all-star or not? You said that you have already agreed with all of the people who feel that we have no shot at being a contender without Posey and PJ but who are those people? I'm a tad worried about you after reading your recent posts, I confess.

  Thanks for your concern. The poster I responded to, CoachBo, has said (more than a few times, I think)that our team without Posey and PJ had no shot at a title. Of course I don't think Smith is an all-star. Hence the "I would never make any of those comments seriously" comment I made.

I think what he said is that the roster which started the season had no shot at a title - that's a quite different thing, no? I mean, I suppose he wouldn't have a problem if Posey was replaced by Shane Battier and PJ Brown by Dwight Howard -to sum it up, that this team would need to replace their contributions better. Maybe you're distorting other peoples words to fit your argument, no? I know you have the habit of caricature what others people say, but this case is a little bit too much.

Anyway, who are you agreeing with re: to Joe Smith being an All-Star, NO being title contenders and all that stuff? It's not with another post and now it's not even with you or an imaginary friend you have here - for some time I considered that hypothesis. 

[BballTim]

BBallTim, who are you agreeing with after all? Do you think Joe Smith is an all-star or not? You said that you have already agreed with all of the people who feel that we have no shot at being a contender without Posey and PJ but who are those people? I'm a tad worried about you after reading your recent posts, I confess.

  Thanks for your concern. The poster I responded to, CoachBo, has said (more than a few times, I think)that our team without Posey and PJ had no shot at a title. Of course I don't think Smith is an all-star. Hence the "I would never make any of those comments seriously" comment I made.

I think what he said is that the roster which started the season had no shot at a title - that's a quite different thing, no? I mean, I suppose he wouldn't have a problem if Posey was replaced by Shane Battier and PJ Brown by Dwight Howard -to sum it up, that this team would need to replace their contributions better. Maybe you're distorting other peoples words to fit your argument, no? I know you have the habit of caricature what others people say, but this case is a little bit too much.

  Is this supposed to be serious? That's too wacky to bother responding to.

Anyway, who are you agreeing with re: to Joe Smith being an All-Star, NO being title contenders and all that stuff? It's not with another post and now it's not even with you or an imaginary friend you have here - for some time I considered that hypothesis. 

  I've already explained once if not twice that I wasn't agreeing with anyone re: Joe Smith or NO being contenders or the other stuff. I guess you were so excited about using your "imaginary friend" line to figure that out. Have fun telling all your friends about it during recess tomorrow.

[cordobes]

So, there was no misunderstood! You reckon nobody except you was actually claiming that stuff. I'll stand by my answer then:

Really? Does that mean that nobody actually said that Joe Smith is an All-Star or that Posey will deliver the title to NO or that he should get a max contract? Because an absurd percentage of your posts are about arguing with the posters who allegedly wrote that stuff. Except that you're now saying nobody did, which means you spend most of your time arguing with..er... oh well, to each his own I guess, it's none of my business...

[cordobes]

BBallTim, who are you agreeing with after all? Do you think Joe Smith is an all-star or not? You said that you have already agreed with all of the people who feel that we have no shot at being a contender without Posey and PJ but who are those people? I'm a tad worried about you after reading your recent posts, I confess.

  Thanks for your concern. The poster I responded to, CoachBo, has said (more than a few times, I think)that our team without Posey and PJ had no shot at a title. Of course I don't think Smith is an all-star. Hence the "I would never make any of those comments seriously" comment I made.

I think what he said is that the roster which started the season had no shot at a title - that's a quite different thing, no? I mean, I suppose he wouldn't have a problem if Posey was replaced by Shane Battier and PJ Brown by Dwight Howard -to sum it up, that this team would need to replace their contributions better. Maybe you're distorting other peoples words to fit your argument, no? I know you have the habit of caricature what others people say, but this case is a little bit too much.

  Is this supposed to be serious? That's too wacky to bother responding to.

What part of it is wacky? That you distorted what he said? I dont' think so. Anyway, I can understand why you don't want to "respond" to this, no biggie.

[crownsy]

BBallTim, who are you agreeing with after all? Do you think Joe Smith is an all-star or not? You said that you have already agreed with all of the people who feel that we have no shot at being a contender without Posey and PJ but who are those people? I'm a tad worried about you after reading your recent posts, I confess.

  Thanks for your concern. The poster I responded to, CoachBo, has said (more than a few times, I think)that our team without Posey and PJ had no shot at a title. Of course I don't think Smith is an all-star. Hence the "I would never make any of those comments seriously" comment I made.

I think what he said is that the roster which started the season had no shot at a title - that's a quite different thing, no? I mean, I suppose he wouldn't have a problem if Posey was replaced by Shane Battier and PJ Brown by Dwight Howard -to sum it up, that this team would need to replace their contributions better. Maybe you're distorting other peoples words to fit your argument, no? I know you have the habit of caricature what others people say, but this case is a little bit too much.

  Is this supposed to be serious? That's too wacky to bother responding to.

What part of it is wacky? That you distorted what he said? I dont' think so. Anyway, I can understand why you don't want to "respond" to this, no biggie.

Not to bust in on you two guys going back and forth, which im enjoying, but coach Bo did in fact say in the preseason that he thought that without posey we couldn't repeat.

Now, I know coach to be a pretty reasonable guy so i think you can infer, as you've done that he ment without replacing the skills, not the specific man, but thats not what he posted.

he took some flak for it at the time if i recall.

[cordobes]

It doesn't really matter, I think. People would just make it up, just like the "Kobe killed Posey!" stuff.

[crownsy]

It doesn't really matter, I think. People would just make it up, just like the "Kobe killed Posey!" stuff.

so if you don't like it people made it up?

I see your point about it not really mattering in this case, but thats not really a conductive way to prove your point.

[cordobes]

It doesn't really matter, I think. People would just make it up, just like the "Kobe killed Posey!" stuff.

so if you don't like it people made it up?

I see your point about it not really mattering in this case, but thats not really a conductive way to prove your point.

The fact that I don't like it or not is immaterial. There's no connection. I don't even care if people think Posey played good or bad defense on Kobe. All I want to know is when was Posey guarding Kobe, no matter your opinion on how well he did it. It's merely a factual, 100% objective question - there's no room to disagree or to agree, to like or dislike it.