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How will moore and marbury affect the rotation
« on: February 24, 2009, 08:19:14 PM »

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moore and marbury i'm certain were specific they would only sign if they weren't buried on the bench and in turn ainge stated they will play as long as they get the "system" and play hard

if both moore and marbury can play to the capabilities we all expect them to then thats not really good news for guys like pruitt, davis/powe or even eddie house.

Rivers can't ignore their talents and play them too sparingly. (yet marbury no matter how good he plays won't ever take rondo's spot).

If moore can provide solid play i predict limited time of play for powe/davis and scal.

Same goes for pruitt, tony allen and even eddie house if marbury's can play at a high level.

Starting 5
perk
kg
pp
r. allen
rondo

first off the bench
marbury
moore
eddie house
powe/davis
pruitt
walker/giddens (prob going back to d leauge)

injury t. allen


Lastly it will be interesting who rivers will play during crunch time situations(once again pending marbury and moore get the "system" and play hard). I can see how marbury helps us out as a 2nd unit player (because we need scoring and a go to guy) but during crunchtime if we put him out there with the big 4(minus perk) how such a lineup can play in harmony? (marbury known to ball hog at times wanting to be the clutch guy)

it will be really interesting how things will workout



Re: How will moore and marbury affect the rotation
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2009, 08:26:18 PM »

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It's a shame Marbury doesn't shoot a high percentage at the free throw line. If he did I would prefer having Marbury close out the fourth quarter in place of Rondo.

Re: How will moore and marbury affect the rotation
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2009, 08:34:28 PM »

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theoratically marbury is a better guy to play as the pg in the 4th than rondo since he can do most things rondo can do as well shoot.

Doubt that will happen unless rondo is having a horrific night or we really do need another shooter.

I think if the big 4 and marbury can click that could potentially be the scariest crunch time lineup in the league. Even if they dare rondo to shoot it will be hard for any team to leave any of the other all stars free even for 1 second.

worst thing i can imagine though is that marbury really like crunch time but so does pierce, so i dunno how that mite play out

Re: How will moore and marbury affect the rotation
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2009, 08:35:59 PM »

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I'm dumbfounded(or maybe just dumb), but to think that Mikki Moore is going to take minutes from Powe or Davis, we must not be watching the same games. At best, he won't hurt the team when he's in there, which is okay for a tenth man.
And Marbury? Isn't Sprewell available? He's talented too.


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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2009, 08:40:20 PM »

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I'm dumbfounded(or maybe just dumb), but to think that Mikki Moore is going to take minutes from Powe or Davis, we must not be watching the same games. At best, he won't hurt the team when he's in there, which is okay for a tenth man.
And Marbury? Isn't Sprewell available? He's talented too.



if you weren't a homer no offense you'd see that moore and marbury are actually better than powe/davis and house if they try.

Moore already is a 7 footer and unless he plays shaq(not many in the league) can guard more power forwards in the league and be diruptive in the paint. Also unlike powe and davis he has consistant level of offensive production capabilities.

I don't even need to explain what marbury can do if he actually behaved and tried.

I do like all celtics players but the truth is that moore and marbury won't be coming in to keep the benches warm and will more than likely play the roles sam cassell, pj brown played for us during our run last year

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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2009, 08:42:28 PM »

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theoratically marbury is a better guy to play as the pg in the 4th than rondo since he can do most things rondo can do as well shoot.

Doubt that will happen unless rondo is having a horrific night or we really do need another shooter.

I think if the big 4 and marbury can click that could potentially be the scariest crunch time lineup in the league. Even if they dare rondo to shoot it will be hard for any team to leave any of the other all stars free even for 1 second.

worst thing i can imagine though is that marbury really like crunch time but so does pierce, so i dunno how that mite play out




Marbury has never been known as a shooter. Also, he has never shot a percentage that would be considered good among shooters.

Re: How will moore and marbury affect the rotation
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2009, 08:52:11 PM »

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To be honest I think Moore, Powe and Davis are going to platoon based on matchups. Powe might be the one getting squeezed out the most. But we'll see over the rest of the regular season.

Marbury would certainly be the first guard off the bench, knocking Pruitt out and squeezing a but of House's minutes. Also Ray Allen should be able to rest more... trim off 5-6 minutes a game. Pierce's minutes could benefit too from an added scorer on the bench.

Walker could pick up some extra 3 minutes until TA and/or Scal come back.

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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2009, 08:58:17 PM »

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It looks like Marbury will replace Tony Allen for the time being.

I think Powe and Davis keep their roles until Moore proves himself good enough to unseat either player, which is not a given.

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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2009, 08:58:59 PM »

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Pruitt has not looked good lately. Now have amazing flexibility for stretch. Moore is a better shooter than Powe or Davis and adds size. Moore and KG has similar offensive games(OK not really); but Moore is no where near the passer or defensive presence. Solid citizen. Great Pickup. Way more energy than POB.

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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2009, 09:07:58 PM »

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EHouse
RAllen
PPierce
KG
Mikki Moore

5 shooters

Rondo/Marbury
TA
PPierce/BWalker
Powe
KG/Moore

5+ slashers

Mix and Match as needed




Re: How will moore and marbury affect the rotation
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2009, 09:16:50 PM »

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Marbury-As stated above, he will take Gabe Pruitt, Tony Allen's minutes and a few of Eddie House minutes provided he plays within the system. I think he will be very anxious to prove he is a 'team' guy. My biggest concern from him is team defense. I dont see him being any worse of a ball hog or volume shooter than Sam Cassell was last year.

Mikki Moore-He will soon take the minutes that Scal is playing at the PF and a few of Davis/Powe minutes after he proves he can play in the Celtis team defense concept. This going to be great for us because Scal will then be Paul Pierce backup at SF. Adding Moore and Powe or Davis with Scal gives us much more length for our second unit.

With Scal, Moore, House and Marbury on the floor together we will eventually have a formidable second unit offensively. My biggest concern is that gaining real defensive cohesion will take some time. Still, they will be playing against the opposing teams second unit so we should be ok in a week or two.
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2009, 09:23:31 PM »

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I'm dumbfounded(or maybe just dumb), but to think that Mikki Moore is going to take minutes from Powe or Davis, we must not be watching the same games. At best, he won't hurt the team when he's in there, which is okay for a tenth man.
And Marbury? Isn't Sprewell available? He's talented too.



if you weren't a homer no offense you'd see that moore and marbury are actually better than powe/davis and house if they try.

Moore already is a 7 footer and unless he plays shaq(not many in the league) can guard more power forwards in the league and be diruptive in the paint. Also unlike powe and davis he has consistant level of offensive production capabilities.

I don't even need to explain what marbury can do if he actually behaved and tried.

I do like all celtics players but the truth is that moore and marbury won't be coming in to keep the benches warm and will more than likely play the roles sam cassell, pj brown played for us during our run last year

I'm actually not that much of a homer, though I do bleed green. There have been plenty of C's players I didn't like- #8 for example. And Jim O'Briens style of play made me sick- boring,slow, and a dumb mindless offense. So I can be critical, but I can also appreciate when it's going well.
Anyway, I just don't think Mikki Moore is all that great, even though I like the signing.
As for Marbury, another poster somewhere compared his signing to the Dodgers signing of Manny.  A highly talented, selfish jerk who came in and had a fantastic couple of months. Could happen, I suppose.

Re: How will moore and marbury affect the rotation
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2009, 09:27:39 PM »

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It's a shame Marbury doesn't shoot a high percentage at the free throw line. If he did I would prefer having Marbury close out the fourth quarter in place of Rondo.

  This time last year everyone wanted Sam Cassell to finish the games instead of Rondo. If Marbury were better (or as good) as Rajon he wouldn't have been sitting out.

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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2009, 09:32:12 PM »

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Marbury will be used like the Spurs use Manu Ginobili. 6th man, ballhandler, scorer. Great pickup. We can now play two 7 footers together. Two very nice pickups. Go Celtics.

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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2009, 09:33:49 PM »

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I think one thing we should realize is that come playoff time, there isn't going to be a "second unit."  There will be a 8-9 man rotation.  Thus, it won't be Marbury, Eddie House, and Tony Allen, it will be 2 of the 3.  And it will likely be one big man playing the bulk of Perk's backup minutes with one other one getting spot minutes backing up Garnett.  

If Marbury works out and TA gets healthy, I think House sees less than 5 mpg come playoff time.  I like his shooting, but he can't run a team, can't create his own shot, and can't guard big guards.  

As for the big me, I think Baby has the edge over Powe.  Moore's an energy player like Powe, but 5 inches taller.  Davis fits the bill with muscle.  

My playoff rotation if all goes well:

Starting 5:
Perk
KG
PP
Allen
Rondo

Rotation:
Marbury
Moore
TA
Big Baby

End of bench:
House
Powe
Scal