How will moore and marbury affect the rotation

[Sweet17]

Moore will steal minutes from Powe/Davis. The big change there will be we won't see the undersized Powe/Davis lineup as much at the 4 and 5 spots. Those guys are going to have to battle out to play alongside Moore. Marbury is going to take alot of Eddie's and Gabe's minutes for the most part.

TA can still earn some minutes. he is the teams only real wing defender off the bench and statistically was fifth best on the team as determined by Roland Rating. I am not a pure stats guy but that's something when you consider how he is bashed around here.

But if he doesn't come back House gets his minutes on any of the "all bench" lineups Doc will use as an off-guard. I see Scabs and Pruitt out of the rotation forever. And Walker and Giddens will only see garbage time unfortunately (especially if TA comes back).

Pete

[blake]

Marbury will be used like the Spurs use Manu Ginobili. 6th man, ballhandler, scorer. Great pickup. We can now play two 7 footers together. Two very nice pickups. Go Celtics.

(clearing throat noise)  KG would be preferred to be called 6'11.  And I would prefer to be called 6'0'' as opposed to 5'11''.   

[acieEarl]

Anyone know if Moore will be suiting up tonight? This would be a good game to put him as I don't see this one being close tonight.

[twinbree]

Celtics still need a wing on the bench who can defend the 3 in the playoffs. TA and Scal are question marks now and Doc isn't going to play Walker.

[pearljammer10]

I'm hoping they'll jump right in as the 6th and 7th men. Moore should be the first big man off the bench, I think Moore and Garnett will be a nice duo in the paint, as well as Moore and Perk could be. I think we will see a lot of Marbury playing the 2 spot alongside Rondo then Marb and Eddie House together with the second unit.

[Chris]

I think Marbury will jump in as the 6th man, and Moore will join a platoon of big men off the bench with Powe, Davis, and Scal (when he is healthy).

I know a lot of people are not going to be happy about this, but what Moore does is provide Doc with the ability to mix and match based on matchups, like he did last year.  He will play the hot hand, and the guy who is the best matchup.

[crownsy]

I'm hoping they'll jump right in as the 6th and 7th men. Moore should be the first big man off the bench, I think Moore and Garnett will be a nice duo in the paint, as well as Moore and Perk could be. I think we will see a lot of Marbury playing the 2 spot alongside Rondo then Marb and Eddie House together with the second unit.

moore should not be the first big off the bench unless his hieght is needed.

starbury, if he plays ball and shuts his yap, should be the 6th man off the bench, and should play point while rajon is on the bench for his 12-14 a game that doc insists on resting him, allowing eddie to play the SG and spot up shoot.

[BillfromBoston]

I think Marbury will jump in as the 6th man, and Moore will join a platoon of big men off the bench with Powe, Davis, and Scal (when he is healthy).

I know a lot of people are not going to be happy about this, but what Moore does is provide Doc with the ability to mix and match based on matchups, like he did last year.  He will play the hot hand, and the guy who is the best matchup.

Exactly - this isn't rocket science...

The only real caveat is Marbury's potential role at SG -- he will inevitably get a crack at earning minutes at the 2, as House and TA aren't such world-beaters that an effective Marbury couldn't beat them out...

Marbury's ability to fit his game into the team will determine if he's just a ball-controlling backup PG or if he's allowed to also play with the big boys at the 2...

[BillfromBoston]

...and yes, if all the stars align, i'd love to see a:

Rondo/Marbury/Ray/Paul/KG lineup to close out games - against LA that lineup would have the advantage over the current LA lineup - if Bynum comes back we'll see - but the P&R, shooting, slashing, and post play of that lineup is amazing...

[Chris]

I think Marbury will jump in as the 6th man, and Moore will join a platoon of big men off the bench with Powe, Davis, and Scal (when he is healthy).

I know a lot of people are not going to be happy about this, but what Moore does is provide Doc with the ability to mix and match based on matchups, like he did last year.  He will play the hot hand, and the guy who is the best matchup.

Exactly - this isn't rocket science...

The only real caveat is Marbury's potential role at SG -- he will inevitably get a crack at earning minutes at the 2, as House and TA aren't such world-beaters that an effective Marbury couldn't beat them out...

Marbury's ability to fit his game into the team will determine if he's just a ball-controlling backup PG or if he's allowed to also play with the big boys at the 2...

Well, I think he will play a lot of SG on defense, because he will likely be playing a lot with Eddie House.  He also will probably play a little SG alongside Rondo.  I really don't think Doc likes playing Paul at PF, but that might change against certain matchups in the playoffs though.

[Change]

I wonder if Doc has the balls to put TA, his favorite son, on the Inactive list.
Rondo     Ray     Pierce     KG     Perk             1st unit
Marbury   House   Scal       Powe   BBD              2nd unit
Gabe                                Moore            3rd unit

[CelticsWhat35]

I wonder if Doc has the balls to put TA, his favorite son, on the Inactive list.
Rondo     Ray     Pierce     KG     Perk             1st unit
Marbury   House   Scal       Powe   BBD              2nd unit
Gabe                                Moore            3rd unit

I don't know about the balls, but I'm sure he has the brains NOT to.  If and when Tony comes back, he's definitely going to be a part of 12-man roster for the playoffs.  The addition of Marbury to the team makes Gabe expendable for this year.  I still hold out hope that he can be a consistent contributor to this team, but it's not gonna happen in the playoffs this year.

[EJPLAYA]

baby is a better defender and rebounder than moore. and lately has been a better outside shooter. moore's gonna need to do something incredible to take baby's minutes... and that would be to stop gasol because baby's size has proven to be a detriment against gasol. i think gasol would love the opportunity to try and score on moore though. the only one who can slow him down is perk.

and moore's not going to get powe's minutes cause he has no back to the basket game which is what we've been using powe for lately, though he hasn't been as efficient as we might have thought.

moore does bring energy though, and his length may be come in handy as a help defender in limited minutes or in certain match ups.

house's minutes will depend on marbury's d. doc wants house in there playing off the ball, but eddie does create a hole on d. he gives great energy and help d and chases guys off the 3 as well as anyone on our team, but he's very beatable 1 on 1. if marbury proves to be easily taken 1 on 1 as well, that will leave two holes at the guard creating breakdowns we can't afford on d in which case house's minutes may suffer.

gabe's capable of staying in front of his man, which is why he and eddie together have had some success.

now if marbury comes in and shows he can play d. i'm hoping he watches what paul did last year, then eddie can keep his minutes. gabe will lose his, sad, but he's still young, and ray's minutes can be trimmed somewhat. then ray comes back in and trim's pierce's minutes when we run a small lineup with steph eddie and ray, or maybe rondo comes back in at this point. either way, eddie keeps his minutes and with ray and eddie on the floor things will really open up penetration and post up.

we stalled slightly when eddie lost his minutes last year when sam came on board. i bet doc doesn't want to make that mistake again.

BBD is a better defender possibly than Moore, yes. Rebounder?! No way. There statistics are virtually identical. BBD is a terrible rebounder. When you can't jump, and are WAY undersized at the center spot that isn't too surprising. I think you are way overstating BBD's value. Moore won't have to be that good with his size to replace him quickly. Just like PJ did last year. BBD isn't really any better than he was last year.

You're right on Marbury though, although I don't know that it is that sad about Gabe. He has had a pretty good shot at taking that spot and didn't do much with it. If we could get a decent defending SF I think he'd be cut.

[fairweatherfan06]

I think Scal will see some minutes at the 3.  I think TA will only get spot minutes as defender at the 2/3. Powe/Baby will play PF center depending on situations but I think Baby gets more minutes because he can play the bulky center while Moore slides to PF.  Pruitt and the other youngins see nothing but garbage time if that.  I think House will get some minutes at the 2 especially towards seasons end when they are trying to rest Ray for the playoffs, but decreasing in the playoffs unless he comes in hot.

[vjcsmoke]

I'm dumbfounded(or maybe just dumb), but to think that Mikki Moore is going to take minutes from Powe or Davis, we must not be watching the same games. At best, he won't hurt the team when he's in there, which is okay for a tenth man.
And Marbury? Isn't Sprewell available? He's talented too.

Sprewell isn't a ball handler.  Marbury can run the offense and bring the ball up.  The Celtics actually DO have a weakness at backup PG because Pruitt simply isn't ready.  Marbury fills that need.  Sprewell doesn't.