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Re: Moore Accepts C's offer
« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2009, 04:07:06 PM »

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I'm very happy. If there was no "talk" of Joe Smith, then nobody would be complaining. Mikki is a high energy guy, that will fit in very well with our bench.

ditto. we just signed a 7 foot guy who has actually played hard and pretty well in the NBA. as we've all seen, we could use a guy like this. i'm going to give ainge, rivers and this veteran team the benefit of the doubt on his fit until he proves otherwise. now we need a wing!!
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Re: Moore Accepts C's offer
« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2009, 04:07:31 PM »

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It is now probably time for everyone to acknowledge that Danny should have signed Mutumbo.

Very true. Amazing bad decision.


This year Mutombo has grabbed 7 rebounds and blocked 2 shots. I think he's done.

The C's style of defense demands mobility - especially on pick and rolls. Mutombo wouldn't fit well on this team. Plus, there is no way he is going to be able to guard Pau or Z.

Might as well sign a 7 footer with a pulse that is a proven jump shooter.

This year Mutombo is still in the pre-season. If PJ Brown was a good fit last season, so would Mutombo be. Deke is the more mobile and quick of the two.

People care too much about height. Moore may be a 7footer, but he doesn't play like one. I'd rather have a guy 1 inch shorter at the top of his head but that can actually grab rebounds and alter shots.
In his first few games last year, PJ looked very bad. Mutumbo hasn't had the opportunity to shake the rust off yet, and if he were given that opportunity in Boston then I think he would prove to help us in a similar fashion as PJ did last year.

And like cordobes said, Mutumbo definitely wanted to come to Boston. I've heard Mutumbo's behavior characterized as practically begging to sign here.


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Re: Moore Accepts C's offer
« Reply #47 on: February 23, 2009, 04:11:38 PM »

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It is now probably time for everyone to acknowledge that Danny should have signed Mutumbo.

Very true. Amazing bad decision.


This year Mutombo has grabbed 7 rebounds and blocked 2 shots. I think he's done.

The C's style of defense demands mobility - especially on pick and rolls. Mutombo wouldn't fit well on this team. Plus, there is no way he is going to be able to guard Pau or Z.

Might as well sign a 7 footer with a pulse that is a proven jump shooter.

This year Mutombo is still in the pre-season. If PJ Brown was a good fit last season, so would Mutombo be. Deke is the more mobile and quick of the two.

People care too much about height. Moore may be a 7footer, but he doesn't play like one. I'd rather have a guy 1 inch shorter at the top of his head but that can actually grab rebounds and alter shots.
In his first few games last year, PJ looked very bad. Mutumbo hasn't had the opportunity to shake the rust off yet, and if he were given that opportunity in Boston then I think he would prove to help us in a similar fashion as PJ did last year.

And like cordobes said, Mutumbo definitely wanted to come to Boston. I've heard Mutumbo's behavior characterized as practically begging to sign here.

Old Man Deke has had 2 months to shake the rust off... and counting  :P

Re: Moore Accepts C's offer
« Reply #48 on: February 23, 2009, 04:12:19 PM »

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It is now probably time for everyone to acknowledge that Danny should have signed Mutumbo.

Very true. Amazing bad decision.


This year Mutombo has grabbed 7 rebounds and blocked 2 shots. I think he's done.

The C's style of defense demands mobility - especially on pick and rolls. Mutombo wouldn't fit well on this team. Plus, there is no way he is going to be able to guard Pau or Z.

Might as well sign a 7 footer with a pulse that is a proven jump shooter.

This year Mutombo is still in the pre-season. If PJ Brown was a good fit last season, so would Mutombo be. Deke is the more mobile and quick of the two.

People care too much about height. Moore may be a 7footer, but he doesn't play like one. I'd rather have a guy 1 inch shorter at the top of his head but that can actually grab rebounds and alter shots.

  Moore's rebounding numbers this year are a little better than PJ's were during the playoffs last year, although Sacramento's clearly a worse rebounding team than we were.

Re: Moore Accepts C's offer
« Reply #49 on: February 23, 2009, 04:13:16 PM »

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Am I the only person who is completely 100% happy with this move? As Chief stated Moore is a high energy guy (TP for Chief), bringing him in helps a lot, especially with KG out for a couple of weeks. Sure Joe Smith is better, but he really isn't as good as all of you are making him out to be. If Joe Smith were to come available I don't think the Celtics would just let him go to the Cavs or the Lakers without atleast making an offer anyways. If worse comes to worse we can always waive Moore, but I really don't think that will happen. He is going to surprise a lot of people. Deke wanted to go to Houston so all of you people need to stop saying Danny made a mistake by not getting him. Deke has already stated that Danny was trying to talk to him and he was flattered but had already made the decision to go back to Houston where he was more comfortable. Right now Moore fills a hole that we have on our bench and I can't believe people are not happy about that. He will bring energy to this team and at the very least make everybody else (Powe, BBD, Scal) play harder so they doon't lose minutes. It is a low risk , high reward signing. Please stop with the negative comments everybody.

Re: Moore Accepts C's offer
« Reply #50 on: February 23, 2009, 04:16:17 PM »

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Am I the only person who is completely 100% happy with this move? As Chief stated Moore is a high energy guy (TP for Chief), bringing him in helps a lot, especially with KG out for a couple of weeks. Sure Joe Smith is better, but he really isn't as good as all of you are making him out to be. If Joe Smith were to come available I don't think the Celtics would just let him go to the Cavs or the Lakers without atleast making an offer anyways. If worse comes to worse we can always waive Moore, but I really don't think that will happen. He is going to surprise a lot of people. Deke wanted to go to Houston so all of you people need to stop saying Danny made a mistake by not getting him. Deke has already stated that Danny was trying to talk to him and he was flattered but had already made the decision to go back to Houston where he was more comfortable. Right now Moore fills a hole that we have on our bench and I can't believe people are not happy about that. He will bring energy to this team and at the very least make everybody else (Powe, BBD, Scal) play harder so they doon't lose minutes. It is a low risk , high reward signing. Please stop with the negative comments everybody.
yah i had a long comment that pretty much says the same. Everyone just misses will and are taking it out on mikki.

Re: Moore Accepts C's offer
« Reply #51 on: February 23, 2009, 04:17:19 PM »

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Moore's rebounding numbers this year are a little better than PJ's were during the playoffs last year, although Sacramento's clearly a worse rebounding team than we were.

Yeah, the fact that they're a worse rebounding team probably helps his numbers.

Why are you comparing reg. season numbers with playoffs numbers? The samples are somewhat small, no? But comparing reg. season to reg. season, PJ put way better numbers.

Moore is a mediocre rebounder. Always was during his entire career.

Re: Moore Accepts C's offer
« Reply #52 on: February 23, 2009, 04:18:09 PM »

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Am I the only person who is completely 100% happy with this move? As Chief stated Moore is a high energy guy (TP for Chief), bringing him in helps a lot, especially with KG out for a couple of weeks. Sure Joe Smith is better, but he really isn't as good as all of you are making him out to be. If Joe Smith were to come available I don't think the Celtics would just let him go to the Cavs or the Lakers without atleast making an offer anyways. If worse comes to worse we can always waive Moore, but I really don't think that will happen. He is going to surprise a lot of people. Deke wanted to go to Houston so all of you people need to stop saying Danny made a mistake by not getting him. Deke has already stated that Danny was trying to talk to him and he was flattered but had already made the decision to go back to Houston where he was more comfortable. Right now Moore fills a hole that we have on our bench and I can't believe people are not happy about that. He will bring energy to this team and at the very least make everybody else (Powe, BBD, Scal) play harder so they doon't lose minutes. It is a low risk , high reward signing. Please stop with the negative comments everybody.

If you're on CelticsBlog, and you're 100% happy with any personnel move, then yes, you're the only one.

But I agree with most of your points - while Moore isn't a big shotblocker or rebounder, our game isn't centered on either of those - it's centered on rotating well enough to harass the ball continually while threatening to steal or tip passes and still having a man there to pressure the shooter.  On offense we don't focus on posting up, we focus on spreading the floor to create open 3s and jumpers for our shooters, and lanes for our slashers to penetrate and dish.  Mikki's game, however flawed, seems to work well with our strengths.  Better rebounding especially would be ideal, but with what's out there and what we need, this seems like a pretty good fit.

Re: Moore Accepts C's offer
« Reply #53 on: February 23, 2009, 04:19:22 PM »

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It is now probably time for everyone to acknowledge that Danny should have signed Mutumbo.

Very true. Amazing bad decision.


This year Mutombo has grabbed 7 rebounds and blocked 2 shots. I think he's done.

The C's style of defense demands mobility - especially on pick and rolls. Mutombo wouldn't fit well on this team. Plus, there is no way he is going to be able to guard Pau or Z.

Might as well sign a 7 footer with a pulse that is a proven jump shooter.

This year Mutombo is still in the pre-season. If PJ Brown was a good fit last season, so would Mutombo be. Deke is the more mobile and quick of the two.

People care too much about height. Moore may be a 7footer, but he doesn't play like one. I'd rather have a guy 1 inch shorter at the top of his head but that can actually grab rebounds and alter shots.
In his first few games last year, PJ looked very bad. Mutumbo hasn't had the opportunity to shake the rust off yet, and if he were given that opportunity in Boston then I think he would prove to help us in a similar fashion as PJ did last year.

And like cordobes said, Mutumbo definitely wanted to come to Boston. I've heard Mutumbo's behavior characterized as practically begging to sign here.

Old Man Deke has had 2 months to shake the rust off... and counting  :P
You and me seem to have a different understanding of what it means to "shake the rust off", considering Mutombo has played a grand total of 20 minutes all season.


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Re: Moore Accepts C's offer
« Reply #54 on: February 23, 2009, 04:19:52 PM »

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Re: Moore Accepts C's offer
« Reply #55 on: February 23, 2009, 04:20:14 PM »

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ok, now we just need to sign waltah with the last roster spot. play a little d, shoot the 3....   I LOVE WALTAH!!
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Re: Moore Accepts C's offer
« Reply #56 on: February 23, 2009, 04:20:22 PM »

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Please stop with the negative comments everybody.

"All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks." - Rick Pitino  ;D

I'm absolutely on board with this signing. A high energy 7 foot jump shooter for about $250,000? I'll take it!!

Re: Moore Accepts C's offer
« Reply #57 on: February 23, 2009, 04:20:45 PM »

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Am I the only person who is completely 100% happy with this move? As Chief stated Moore is a high energy guy (TP for Chief), bringing him in helps a lot, especially with KG out for a couple of weeks. Sure Joe Smith is better, but he really isn't as good as all of you are making him out to be. If Joe Smith were to come available I don't think the Celtics would just let him go to the Cavs or the Lakers without atleast making an offer anyways. If worse comes to worse we can always waive Moore, but I really don't think that will happen. He is going to surprise a lot of people. Deke wanted to go to Houston so all of you people need to stop saying Danny made a mistake by not getting him. Deke has already stated that Danny was trying to talk to him and he was flattered but had already made the decision to go back to Houston where he was more comfortable. Right now Moore fills a hole that we have on our bench and I can't believe people are not happy about that. He will bring energy to this team and at the very least make everybody else (Powe, BBD, Scal) play harder so they doon't lose minutes. It is a low risk , high reward signing. Please stop with the negative comments everybody.

Do you think people are idiots? Deke expressly and publicly said he was ready to go to Boston but Ainge never made the final call.

Re: Moore Accepts C's offer
« Reply #58 on: February 23, 2009, 04:22:59 PM »

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jesus people...you complain if a move isnt made and you complain now that one is. what other options does boston have? i get the sense that ainge knows that smith isn't going to get bought out. moore would have landed in LA or with the cavs if not boston. he has length...good energy and NEVER has played on a team this good before. give him a chance

now the real question is who do they get for a wing?

Re: Moore Accepts C's offer
« Reply #59 on: February 23, 2009, 04:24:21 PM »

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A couple thoughts from the "Celtics offered Mikki Moore a contract!" thread:

1. I'm on board with going after Moore (and signing him if it happens). Length and a jump shot are very valuable assets that are needed on this team.

2. I'd still make a run at Smith if he pops free. This team would still be lacking a 6th or 7th man. Smith could fill that role as he is a solid 2 way player.

3. The Celtics had a very bad off season. A championship caliber team shouldn't carry 4 projects (POB, Walker, Giddens, Pruitt), and 3 backup PFs (Baby, Powe, Scal). By the time the Posey talks fell through there wasn't much left to choose from in the market. But, the summer of 08 didn't have anywhere near the level of talent as the summer of 09 and 10 have (even on the MLE level). So i can understand The C's playing things conservatively (I dont mean cheaply though - they did fork over $5 million for House and TA). ...But there were other cheap options out there that we failed to get. I honestly believe the C's are targeting the better free agent classes of 09 and 10; and thus settled for a bad to mediocre offseason in 08.


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