Report: Moore to Accept C's offer

[Mr October]

if mihm can stay healthy for the next few months then that's all we need.  we're not thinking long-term here, just get us through june. 

i think playoff experience is overrated...if you're a veteran, that's all that matters.

but you and i will disagree regarding mihm vs. moore...i believe mihm is a good player.  injuries aside, he could be a huge help to this team because he's big, athletic, and he'll matchup well against the true centers.

If Mihm were truely healthy, he'd be great as a backup center. The Lakers chose to dump him even though Bynum is out. He just can't stay healthy.

[Cman]

chris mihm...he's better than moore...a true center (he may even have more skill than perk)...and will have a LOT of incentive against the lakers come june.

I think I would rather have Moore than Mihm. 

Moore has played meaningful minutes in playoff games (even though the outcomes haven't been great); Mihm has not.  Mihm has a terrible history when it comes to injuries; Moore has been relatively injury free the past few years...

if mihm can stay healthy for the next few months then that's all we need.  we're not thinking long-term here, just get us through june. 

i think playoff experience is overrated...if you're a veteran, that's all that matters.

but you and i will disagree regarding mihm vs. moore...i believe mihm is a good player.  injuries aside, he could be a huge help to this team because he's big, athletic, and he'll matchup well against the true centers.

Mr. October beat me to it -- .
The Mihm to Memphis move was touted as a financial move, but if Mihm were any good, Lakers would have kept him.

[celticinorlando]

sounds like moore's agent is hitting the spin cycle

[Chris]

chris mihm...he's better than moore...a true center (he may even have more skill than perk)...and will have a LOT of incentive against the lakers come june.

I think I would rather have Moore than Mihm. 

Moore has played meaningful minutes in playoff games (even though the outcomes haven't been great); Mihm has not.  Mihm has a terrible history when it comes to injuries; Moore has been relatively injury free the past few years...

if mihm can stay healthy for the next few months then that's all we need.  we're not thinking long-term here, just get us through june. 

i think playoff experience is overrated...if you're a veteran, that's all that matters.

but you and i will disagree regarding mihm vs. moore...i believe mihm is a good player.  injuries aside, he could be a huge help to this team because he's big, athletic, and he'll matchup well against the true centers.

Mr. October beat me to it -- .
The Mihm to Memphis move was touted as a financial move, but if Mihm were any good, Lakers would have kept him.

Why is Mihm even being discussed?  He is no more a free agent right now than Joe Smith. 

[BballTim]

The Globe is reporting that this isn't done yet:

Center Mikki Moore's agent said early this evening that his client has yet to make a decision on which team he will play for after he clears waivers tomorrow morning.

Agent Mark Bartelstein said the Celtics were amongst as many as four teams that Moore was mulling over joining. Bartlestein also mentioned Denver, New Orleans, Dallas, San Antonio, and Phoenix as potential suitors. He also added that Boston was a strong contender and said his client will not have a firm decision until tomorrow after he clears waivers.

"It's definitely something he's interested in," said Bartelstein of the Celtics. "But stuff happens (referring to Denver center Nene's knee injury). We'll wait until the morning to see where we are at."

While the Celtics are a strong contender for Moore's services, it's possible other teams might be able to outbid Boston financially.

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/02/agent_says_moor.html

here's hoping for a celtics loss in this game...

assuming joe smith doesnt get bought out, who's your alternative to mikki to upgrade length off the bench to play against the playoff bigs then?

times getting short, we had a baaaddd offseason with regards to plugging the holes left by posey and PJ.

Beggers, which we are quickly becoming in this buisness, cannot be choosers.

While I share your assessment of Danny's awful, awful off-season, I would remind you of what happened the last time Ainge didn't do a smidgen of due diligence on the backup 5 position.

Patrick O'Blount. Despite all the glowing, factually-unsupported assurances on this board that Danny's doing everything he can to land Joe Smith, I prefer to look at his record: It's awful since Game 6 of the Finals ended.

Sometimes a hasty act is worse than no act at all.

  Like throwing $25M at James Posey?

  It's clear that the team's on the verge of self destruction. I'm just hoping against hope that we can limp into the playoffs with at least a #6 seed.

[Roy Hobbs]

How much will it suck if Joe Smith is bought out and he signs with Cleveland? 

RH is it possible we can sign J.Smith also?

It's possible, but in my opinion not likely.  According to most people, we have three holes:  big man, swingman, and point guard.  If we commit two players to one position, that means we're left with two holes.  The other option is to cut a current player, but I don't think the team will do that.

What are the C's options if this deal goes?
Is Moore's contract the vet min?  Can he be cut with no penalty if we choose to go after another player (Joe Smith).

Nobody knows what type of contract Moore will get.  Rumor has it that the Celts would like to sign him (or anybody else) to a veteran minimum deal, like Cassell and Brown last season.  If we sign him and cut him, we'd still have to pay him his owed salary the rest of the year (a pro-rated share of the minimum), and would have to pay luxury tax on that.

[SShorefan 4.0]

did anyone report that weei.com is confirming this?  If so sorry for the repeat info

[Toine43]

The Globe is reporting that this isn't done yet:

Center Mikki Moore's agent said early this evening that his client has yet to make a decision on which team he will play for after he clears waivers tomorrow morning.

Agent Mark Bartelstein said the Celtics were amongst as many as four teams that Moore was mulling over joining. Bartlestein also mentioned Denver, New Orleans, Dallas, San Antonio, and Phoenix as potential suitors. He also added that Boston was a strong contender and said his client will not have a firm decision until tomorrow after he clears waivers.

"It's definitely something he's interested in," said Bartelstein of the Celtics. "But stuff happens (referring to Denver center Nene's knee injury). We'll wait until the morning to see where we are at."

While the Celtics are a strong contender for Moore's services, it's possible other teams might be able to outbid Boston financially.

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/02/agent_says_moor.html

here's hoping for a celtics loss in this game...

assuming joe smith doesnt get bought out, who's your alternative to mikki to upgrade length off the bench to play against the playoff bigs then?

times getting short, we had a baaaddd offseason with regards to plugging the holes left by posey and PJ.

Beggers, which we are quickly becoming in this buisness, cannot be choosers.

While I share your assessment of Danny's awful, awful off-season, I would remind you of what happened the last time Ainge didn't do a smidgen of due diligence on the backup 5 position.

Patrick O'Blount. Despite all the glowing, factually-unsupported assurances on this board that Danny's doing everything he can to land Joe Smith, I prefer to look at his record: It's awful since Game 6 of the Finals ended.

Sometimes a hasty act is worse than no act at all.

Like throwing $25M at James Posey?

  It's clear that the team's on the verge of self destruction. I'm just hoping against hope that we can limp into the playoffs with at least a #6 seed.

Hahaha! TP BBallTim. I'm not sure why CoachBo is calling me out (without even referring to me by name, which makes it even more obnoxious) for saying that Danny is doing/did what he can/could to land Smith. What is he trying to say, that Ainge wasn't doing all he could to sign Smith? That doesn't make any sense. Perhaps Smith won't be bought out, or he said he wants to go to Cleveland no matter what because they have more money to offer and he played for them last year, but that's not Danny not trying as hard as he can. Also, I'm not sure why he criticizes Ainge for taking a low-risk flier on POB. That's a what POB was, a flier, and we have 3 backup bigs in Scal, Powe, and Baby that have performed well enough. Also, the Celtics are 45-12.

[Cman]

Patrick O'Blount. Despite all the glowing, factually-unsupported assurances on this board that Danny's doing everything he can to land Joe Smith, I prefer to look at his record: It's awful since Game 6 of the Finals ended.

Sometimes a hasty act is worse than no act at all.

  Like throwing $25M at James Posey?

  It's clear that the team's on the verge of self destruction. I'm just hoping against hope that we can limp into the playoffs with at least a #6 seed.

A little extreme, guys?

First, while Danny hasn't had a great record since the Finals, it is not *awful*.  Here are a couple moves that seem unambiguously positive: (1) he traded for Walker, who most people seem to like and (2) resigned Eddie House to a reasonable deal.

Second, Cs are on the verge of "self destruction"?  This is coming after a career night from Rondo, when our players seemed to be in synch, and PP, with his shot off, deferred to others?

[Toine43]

Patrick O'Blount. Despite all the glowing, factually-unsupported assurances on this board that Danny's doing everything he can to land Joe Smith, I prefer to look at his record: It's awful since Game 6 of the Finals ended.

Sometimes a hasty act is worse than no act at all.

  Like throwing $25M at James Posey?

  It's clear that the team's on the verge of self destruction. I'm just hoping against hope that we can limp into the playoffs with at least a #6 seed.

A little extreme, guys?

First, while Danny hasn't had a great record since the Finals, it is not *awful*.  Here are a couple moves that seem unambiguously positive: (1) he traded for Walker, who most people seem to like and (2) resigned Eddie House to a reasonable deal.

Second, Cs are on the verge of "self destruction"?  This is coming after a career night from Rondo, when our players seemed to be in synch, and PP, with his shot off, deferred to others?

Cman - BballTim was being sarcastic.

[Brickowski]

The offseason looks a little different when you are coming off a championship.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it.  And it's tough to make moves when you have a 75 million-dollar payroll in which 3 players make 60 million and the other 12 players make a combined 15 million.  It's tough to make salaries match without depleting your roster.

The notion that "Ainge had a terrible offseason" is just silly.  They didn't resign Posey for financial reasons.  That doesn't make it a "terrible offseason."

[dark_lord]

The notion that "Ainge had a terrible offseason" is just silly.  They didn't resign Posey for financial reasons.  That doesn't make it a "terrible offseason."

i understand ainge's reason for not signing posey, and i cant say i disagree with him.  however, when you lose two key contributors (brown and posey) to our team and replace them with nothing (POB, giddens, and walker), then it is safe to say he had a terrible offseason.

[Cman]

Patrick O'Blount. Despite all the glowing, factually-unsupported assurances on this board that Danny's doing everything he can to land Joe Smith, I prefer to look at his record: It's awful since Game 6 of the Finals ended.

Sometimes a hasty act is worse than no act at all.

  Like throwing $25M at James Posey?

  It's clear that the team's on the verge of self destruction. I'm just hoping against hope that we can limp into the playoffs with at least a #6 seed.

A little extreme, guys?

First, while Danny hasn't had a great record since the Finals, it is not *awful*.  Here are a couple moves that seem unambiguously positive: (1) he traded for Walker, who most people seem to like and (2) resigned Eddie House to a reasonable deal.

Second, Cs are on the verge of "self destruction"?  This is coming after a career night from Rondo, when our players seemed to be in synch, and PP, with his shot off, deferred to others?

Cman - BballTim was being sarcastic.

My bad 

[crownsy]

The notion that "Ainge had a terrible offseason" is just silly.  They didn't resign Posey for financial reasons.  That doesn't make it a "terrible offseason."

where did i say that i consider his off season bad because he wouldn't overpay for posey?




my criticism of danny's offseason centers around lack of a replacement for posey as a wing defender, lack of a big of some sort who is nba level to replace PJ, and not addressing, either by trusting gabe to it or a vet, the backup PG role.

[CoachBo]

What's silly is people continuing to act like Danny Ainge can do no wrong - when the evidence is quite clear in the other direction.

The man had a great summer 2007. He has done nothing since game 6 of the Finals to help this club repeat. A versatile wing is an absolute necessity if you intend to pinch pennies with Posey. Instead, we get Tony Allen. Strike one - compounded by the fact that the injury prone Mr. Allen has now checked out for the regular season, creating a situation where we have no veteran whatsoever behind Pierce. Godspeed, Billy Walker. Another strike.

PJ retires. No one's fault. But it's again an absolute necessity to get a competent backup 5. Instead, we get O'Blount. Strike two.

Plus, we've not settled on a backup PG, thanks to Pruitt's erratic play.

Danny did an atrocious job last summer, so much so that this team's playoff future is severely handicapped. He's in a performance business, and some of you need to get it through your heads that last year is over. He's not dumb enough to throw the season under the bus for 2013, like some of you are trying to convince yourselves, but he's clearly been unable to adequately equip this team for a serious Finals run.

There are no free passes for one good year, and no doctrine of Ainge Infallability, either. This season's going to end early without significant help.