The best thing about today for the C'S......... LA and Cleveland make no moves!!

[winsomme]

this is almost surreal if the cavs got no one..IF...don't want to jinx it

Rumor has it that the Cavs are going to bid heavily for Joe Smith.  That's going to suck, big time, when we end up with Mikki Moore, who is an inferior player.

do they have more money to offer? when you say "bid heavily" what exactly are you referring to?

Yes. They have a lot left of their MLE. Plus - Smith was on their team last year and knows the system. The way I see it, if he can choose between Boston and Cleveland. He'll go to Cleveland. More money to offer and more benefits in Cleveland.

what about that report that he wanted to come to Boston....I knew CLE was going to screw something up for us!!!

[winsomme]

sort of makes more sense that CLE didn't finalize any other Wally deals thinking that they would lead the pack in getting Smith....

Smith adds depth and doesn't screw up chemistry......

[goCeltics]

they can't offer the full MLE, the MLE decreases with the amount of games played. I think the difference would be around a million dollars

[goCeltics]

i guess cav's can offer him a full MLE type deal for 5 years or something, although they may be able to only out bid the c's by a million dollars this year alone, a full MLE type deal could guarntee something like 20 millions in future years, may be a deal too good to refuse, mind you the cavs cap number is coming down by like something like $20 million because wally and snow will be off the books next year.

[celticinorlando]

if smith wants to play with KG it won't matter what the cavs offer...the thing is IF moore goes elsewhere and smith doesn't get bought out...then boston is screwed

[rondohondo]

i guess cav's can offer him a full MLE type deal for 5 years or something, although they may be able to only out bid the c's by a million dollars this year alone, a full MLE type deal could guarntee something like 20 millions in future years, may be a deal too good to refuse, mind you the cavs cap number is coming down by like something like $20 million because wally and snow will be off the books next year.

There's no way Cleveland is giving Smith the full MLE

[celticinorlando]

i agree...smith won't get the full MLE from cleveland...cleveland might be able to give a little more but the lure of KG might be a nice plus for boston

[Brickowski]

I find it hard to believe that Cleveland could not turn Wally's expiring contract into something more useful than Wally.

IMHO they aimed too high.

[celticinorlando]

funny...i live here in ohio and cav fans believe they cannot beat boston with their current roster.

[goCeltics]

think i've got the info wrong

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q20


"Starting January 10 of each season, the Mid-Level, Bi-Annual, Larry Bird, Early-Bird and Non-Bird exceptions begin to reduce in value. For example, if there are 180 days in the season, then these exceptions (if they are still unused) reduce by 1/180 of their initial value each day starting January 10. If a team uses their $5 million Mid-Level exception on February 1, then the exception is actually worth $4,361,111."


confused....

[cordobes]

i guess cav's can offer him a full MLE type deal for 5 years or something, although they may be able to only out bid the c's by a million dollars this year alone, a full MLE type deal could guarntee something like 20 millions in future years, may be a deal too good to refuse, mind you the cavs cap number is coming down by like something like $20 million because wally and snow will be off the books next year.

There's no way Cleveland is giving Smith the full MLE

Why not? They'd be paying him the prorated MLE, which is aboute $1.9 million for the rest of the season. The C's can only offer about $900K.

Even worse, they can make a much bigger multi-year offer: in a 3 years offer, the Celtics partial-MLE contract would be something like $900K, $3M, $3.1M; the Cavs offer could go like $1.9M, $5.9M, $6M. (just an example, I don't see any of the clubs going that far).

If they really want him, I bet they're getting him. I see two things on our favour: Kevin Garnett and the possibility of Smith holding a grudge towards Ferry. But how often that kind of stuff out-weights the money?

[goCeltics]

i guess cav's can offer him a full MLE type deal for 5 years or something, although they may be able to only out bid the c's by a million dollars this year alone, a full MLE type deal could guarntee something like 20 millions in future years, may be a deal too good to refuse, mind you the cavs cap number is coming down by like something like $20 million because wally and snow will be off the books next year.

There's no way Cleveland is giving Smith the full MLE

Why not? They'd be paying him the prorated MLE, which is aboute $1.9 million for the rest of the season. The C's can only offer about $900K.

Even worse, they can make a much bigger multi-year offer: in a 3 years offer, the Celtics partial-MLE contract would be something like $900K, $3M, $3.1M; the Cavs offer could go like $1.9M, $5.9M, $6M.

If they really want him, I bet they're getting him. I see two things on our favour: Kevin Garnett and the possibility of Smith holding a grudge towards Ferry. But how often that kind of stuff out-weights the money?

reading the coon faq i think they could actually offer more than the 1.9 million

[winsomme]

If they really want him, I bet they're getting him. I see two things on our favour: Kevin Garnett and the possibility of Smith holding a grudge towards Ferry. But how often that kind of stuff out-weights the money?

I think we have to just hope that the important conversations have already taken place between KG and Joe....

KG has had some time on his hands the past few days, so let's hope he's been working the diplomatic lines and that maybe that is why Danny went out and freed up TWO roster spots...

[celticinorlando]

something has to be done...danny created roster space..i think boston gets smith or moore and a wing of some sort...

[cordobes]

(forget what you read here, the 30 days are post trade).