Suggestions for Doc: Help the C's Win a Game

[TatteredOnMySleeve]

The tired 2 of Ray and KG should be benched or rested to put it nicely, they look like geezers and cant hit the broad side of a barn, and boy was it funny watching KG try to actually back someone down half his size last night..now we know why he normally just goes into his predictable fade away

It was actually pretty sad watching KG fail to back down a smaller guy in the post.  I don't think he could back Rondo down in the paint.

I often wonder how dominant KG would have been throughout his career if he had bulked up another 30lbs or so.  He has incrdible moves down low but he's just so freaking weak!  He could have been a beast down there.

Hayes and Landry are beasts. KG might not be the stronget post player in the league, but lets not tear him down for failing to back those guys in - shorter post players (Big Baby, Craig Smith, Paul Millsap) make a living holding their ground in the post.

Hayes and Landry are beasts? um do the 2 combined even make a quarter of what Garnett makes? he should be able to back them down, simple as that

I was not aware that backing someone down is directly related to thier salary figure.

by this logic, 80% of the centers in the league are overhyped because they can't back Oden down.

You honestly dont think the highest paid player in the league should be able to dominate a 2nd string energy guy?

thats not what i said at all is it?

It doesn't change the fact that your logic there is the most ridiculous thing ive ever read about low post strength.

According to it, we have the greatest center of all time, since he makes a measly amount compared to some of the centers who can't back him down.

You're right, Im just frustrated with him not being able to do it, to anyone, I mean the knicks had Al Harrington on him at times, and he couldnt back him down either, its sad, and when he tried  consecutive times to back down landry/hayes whichever one as hard as he could and got nowhere but backwards and then missed 2 easy shots then turned it over...that was one of saddest possesions ive ever seen, and it shows exactly why he doesnt try it more often

[moiso]

KG has never been a back you down type of player.  That's just not his game.  But yes it would be nice if he made some kind of move to score on those two guys.

[TatteredOnMySleeve]

KG has never been a back you down type of player.  That's just not his game.  But yes it would be nice if he made some kind of move to score on those two guys.

I know, I know, but why isnt it his game? for a guy who talks a big game about desire to get better and hunger to be the best he can be, its almost as big of a weakness as rondo not being able to shoot for crying out loud, his fade aways arent intimidating anybody just like him being listed at 6'11 isnt fooling anybody

[Who]

KG shouldn't be trying to back down a player like Chuck Hayes.

Hayes is like Glen Davis, he has a low center of gravity and is extremely strong with excellent positioning skills in the post. KG needed to catch the ball, turn and shoot.

Just catch, turn and shoot over the top. Kevin is 7 feet with a high release point, Hayes is 6-6, Hayes doesn't have a hope of altering that shot. Catch, turn and shoot. I'll take KG shooting 10-12 footers all night long.

The way Kevin tried to attack Hayes was dumb. He didn't use his advantages, and instead played to Hayes' advantages. Lack of intelligence and decision making from KG in this regard last night.

[moiso]

KG has never been a back you down type of player.  That's just not his game.  But yes it would be nice if he made some kind of move to score on those two guys.

I know, I know, but why isnt it his game? for a guy who talks a big game about desire to get better and hunger to be the best he can be, its almost as big of a weakness as rondo not being able to shoot for crying out loud, his fade aways arent intimidating anybody just like him being listed at 6'11 isnt fooling anybody

Yeah I was always waiting for him to bulk up when he was early in his career so he could back people down and dominate like a beast.  But it never happened, its never going to happen, he became great anyway, and I've just accepted that he plays how he plays.

[reggie35]

KG shouldn't be trying to back down a player like Chuck Hayes.

Hayes is like Glen Davis, he has a  low center of gravity and extremely strong with excellent positioning skills in the post. KG needed to catch the ball, turn and shoot.

Just catch, turn and shoot over the top. Kevin is 7 feet with a high release point, Hayes is 6-6, Hayes doesn't have a hope of altering that shot. Catch, turn and shoot. I'll take KG shooting 10-12 footers all night long.

The way Kevin tried to attack Hayes was dumb. He didn't use his advantages, and instead played to Hayes' advantages. Lack of intelligence and decision making from KG in this regard last night.

Yeah, he was trying to make a point and ended up making the wrong one.

[nickagneta]

Did you guys ever think that KG has bulked up? That he is as big as he is going to get without using supplements or drugs? That if he was any bigger that he would be sacrificing his elevation, quickness, and shooting touch?

As Who pointed out KG was playing into the game of a much different player. But what Who didn't point out is just like Davis and Hayes are low center of gravity guys with frames that stress lower body strength, KG has a frame that is lithe and strong but not made for overwhelming power. That is not his body type and definitely not his game.

[action781]

The tired 2 of Ray and KG should be benched or rested to put it nicely, they look like geezers and cant hit the broad side of a barn, and boy was it funny watching KG try to actually back someone down half his size last night..now we know why he normally just goes into his predictable fade away

It was actually pretty sad watching KG fail to back down a smaller guy in the post.  I don't think he could back Rondo down in the paint.

I often wonder how dominant KG would have been throughout his career if he had bulked up another 30lbs or so.  He has incrdible moves down low but he's just so freaking weak!  He could have been a beast down there.

Hayes and Landry are beasts. KG might not be the stronget post player in the league, but lets not tear him down for failing to back those guys in - shorter post players (Big Baby, Craig Smith, Paul Millsap) make a living holding their ground in the post.

Hayes and Landry are beasts? um do the 2 combined even make a quarter of what Garnett makes? he should be able to back them down, simple as that

I was not aware that backing someone down is directly related to thier salary figure.

by this logic, 80% of the centers in the league are overhyped because they can't back Oden down.

You honestly dont think the highest paid player in the league should be able to dominate a 2nd string energy guy?

Tim Duncan can't back down BBD.  Hayes and Landry are beasts, I've always liked their toughness and hustle