Trade idea that will spark some heat on here...

[the_Bird]

I've never gotten the impression that Buckets is a bad guy, per se.  You don't hear other players ripping him.  But, it's pretty clear that he's a bit of a space cadet.  IIRC, Doc's criticism seemed to be that Ricky just wasn't professional in his approach to the game.  He strikes me as someone that would be an absolute BLAST to hang out with (seriously; is there anyone in the league that would be more fun to go clubbing with than Buckets?).  But, he doesn't seem like someone that you would really count on.  Basically the antithesis to the guys who are currently leading the squad.  Do you really trust him in a playoff situation?  You trust him on the defensive end?

As to the whole "he's never been on a good squad with a good leader..."; he's a talented enough player where he SHOULD be able to show some leadership himself.  Maybe you can't blame him for how poorly his teams in Cleveland and Miami and here have played, but is it purely co-incidental that he's never played on a good squad?  When Miami was making up excuses for why every decent player on the team was hurt, the most blatant tank-job in league history, was it a co-incidence that they let Ricky play 82 games?

Plus, it seems pretty clear that the last few years in Miami Beach haven't done him any favors; Ricky is D-U-N.

I propse that the League would come up with a new year-end award, the "Ricky Buckets Award" for "Best Player On A 20-Win Team."  Maybe that could be an ESPY.

[BrickJames]

So let me get this straight...people are vehemently opposed to bringing in Marbury, or bringing back Antoine...so we're talking about Sticky Ricky?

Yeah...makes sense.

[RebusRankin]

So who's the best option out of the three, Buckets, Starbury or Employee #8?

More importantly, who would cause the longest thread to be created on CelticsBlog if signed?

Bonus question, which signing would cause Bill Simmons's head to explode?

[Chris]

So who's the best option out of the three, Buckets, Starbury or Employee #8?

More importantly, who would cause the longest thread to be created on CelticsBlog if signed?

Bonus question, which signing would cause Bill Simmons's head to explode?

I would say Marbury.  Based on the little I saw of him in the preseason, he has the most in the tank.

[RebusRankin]

Yeah, I'd lean towards Marbury myself. It would give the second unit a scorer and somebody who has the ability to run an offense and get shots for others.

[BrickJames]

/agree with Chris and RR

[housecall]

This question is for the OP...when was the last time you saw Ricky play and what did you think of his game?The last time i saw him play he didn't look like the old Ricky that scores in bunches in a short period of time.That was just one game but i was surprised at how much he has slowed down.

[winsomme]

The problem with Ricky D is not his attitude or his demeanor on the bench, but how he plays when he is in the game.

i actually found Ricky, attitude-wise, to be a very pleasant surprise when he came here first time around...especially considering his rep before hand..

he also played at a pretty high level for the majority of his time here...

but he plays to get his...and if he was coming in here, it would be under the idea that he was gonna be our bench scoring. i mean, even the people supporting this idea are saying that he would be great because he could come in off the bench and score.

so the problem that i would see (leaving health aside for the moment) is that Ricky would be coming in looking to score (like he has always done his whole career) and it will take away from how we play as a team.

Sam unfortunately had the same problem last year but at least he had the rings to back it up....

i think Ricky is actually a nice player and i think Danny took too much flack about him, but right now i think TA is a better fit (especially with his D)...

plus i think we need a shooter not a scorer....and i think we need to be looking at a SF/PF as opposed to a SG/SF.

[greenhead85]

A big NO. No Ricky Davis.

FLASH!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AjnDYej8ozyRNKJd.45W06O8vLYF?slug=ap-clippers-davis&prov=ap&type=lgns

The guy is suspended.

[cordobes]

So who's the best option out of the three, Buckets, Starbury or Employee #8?

More importantly, who would cause the longest thread to be created on CelticsBlog if signed?

Bonus question, which signing would cause Bill Simmons's head to explode?

Well, I'm not sure that Walker and Davis can still play at a NBA level. Marbury probably still can.

Toine.

Marbury, because he's the most popular and controversial of the 3 by far.

[RebusRankin]

Ricky just got a 5 game suspension for violating the NBA's drug policy.

[BrickJames]

Ricky just got a 5 game suspension for violating the NBA's drug policy.

Once again - Sticky Ricky.

[Brendan]

The Clippers would get the 2 best players, in my opinion.

Which is why I think they would pull that deal, but what do we get? We get a 6-7 guy who can score at will when given the green light without committing as many turnovers and boneheaded moves on the offensive end. He also passes the ball better, actually kicks the ball out to a shooter like House when he penetrates, and has the size to give them someone who can legitimately guard the 3 spot. He may not be as good a defender as TA, but I don't recall him being a bad one. Paul Davis also has the size and athletic ability to be able to help down low that BBD doesn't.

This move would be only about helping this second unit allow us to win #18. Not a long term good move by any stretch. There may be other similar guys that we could get with that package that would be a better fit, so let's hear them.

No this move would be about satisfying some man-crush on Risky "Get Buckets" Davis. Ricky Davis is worse than Tony Allen as a player now. Height is an interesting feature of player analysis, but far less important than how a player actually plays. The only part of the analysis that's right, is that this move makes the C's worse long term, the problem is it makes it the C's worse short term.

[EJPLAYA]

The Clippers would get the 2 best players, in my opinion.

Which is why I think they would pull that deal, but what do we get? We get a 6-7 guy who can score at will when given the green light without committing as many turnovers and boneheaded moves on the offensive end. He also passes the ball better, actually kicks the ball out to a shooter like House when he penetrates, and has the size to give them someone who can legitimately guard the 3 spot. He may not be as good a defender as TA, but I don't recall him being a bad one. Paul Davis also has the size and athletic ability to be able to help down low that BBD doesn't.

This move would be only about helping this second unit allow us to win #18. Not a long term good move by any stretch. There may be other similar guys that we could get with that package that would be a better fit, so let's hear them.

No this move would be about satisfying some man-crush on Risky "Get Buckets" Davis. Ricky Davis is worse than Tony Allen as a player now. Height is an interesting feature of player analysis, but far less important than how a player actually plays. The only part of the analysis that's right, is that this move makes the C's worse long term, the problem is it makes it the C's worse short term.

I don't know where your "man-crush" comment is coming or what it is insinuating, but that has no place on here. If you want to argue that you think TA is better than Ricky then go ahead. I would argue that offensively Ricky is a lot better than TA, and defensively TA is a bit better. TA is being asked though to guard 3's which his 6'4" slight stature isn't very good for, and Ricky was a decent defender. Not great, but better prepared to guard the bigger 3 spot. I am more interested in the scoring threat he brings that TA doesn't. Ricky has been a legitimate starter in this league for years based on his scoring ability. TA never has. I am fine with someone else filling that role other than Ricky, but throwing guys out there that there is no chance a deal could happen is useless. There is a guy who could give us a legit scoring threat off the bench we so desperately need. It also would come up with a real sized big instead of the fat SF we have playing the center spot. If you disagree, then don't bag on me. Show me statistically how I am wrong and come up with an idea of your own.

[winsomme]

The Clippers would get the 2 best players, in my opinion.

Which is why I think they would pull that deal, but what do we get? We get a 6-7 guy who can score at will when given the green light without committing as many turnovers and boneheaded moves on the offensive end. He also passes the ball better, actually kicks the ball out to a shooter like House when he penetrates, and has the size to give them someone who can legitimately guard the 3 spot. He may not be as good a defender as TA, but I don't recall him being a bad one. Paul Davis also has the size and athletic ability to be able to help down low that BBD doesn't.

This move would be only about helping this second unit allow us to win #18. Not a long term good move by any stretch. There may be other similar guys that we could get with that package that would be a better fit, so let's hear them.

No this move would be about satisfying some man-crush on Risky "Get Buckets" Davis. Ricky Davis is worse than Tony Allen as a player now. Height is an interesting feature of player analysis, but far less important than how a player actually plays. The only part of the analysis that's right, is that this move makes the C's worse long term, the problem is it makes it the C's worse short term.

I don't know where your "man-crush" comment is coming or what it is insinuating, but that has no place on here. If you want to argue that you think TA is better than Ricky then go ahead. I would argue that offensively Ricky is a lot better than TA, and defensively TA is a bit better. TA is being asked though to guard 3's which his 6'4" slight stature isn't very good for, and Ricky was a decent defender. Not great, but better prepared to guard the bigger 3 spot. I am more interested in the scoring threat he brings that TA doesn't. Ricky has been a legitimate starter in this league for years based on his scoring ability. TA never has. I am fine with someone else filling that role other than Ricky, but throwing guys out there that there is no chance a deal could happen is useless. There is a guy who could give us a legit scoring threat off the bench we so desperately need. It also would come up with a real sized big instead of the fat SF we have playing the center spot. If you disagree, then don't bag on me. Show me statistically how I am wrong and come up with an idea of your own.

i don't know that i would call TA's stature "slight". he seems like he is really strong (with long, strong arms) and that is why he has even a chance against guys that have 3 or 4 inches on him...

but yeah we need wing (preferably a SF/PF) so TA doesn't have to guard those guys....I just don't think that Ricky is a match here.