Thoughts on C's development and other issues

[Induna]

I am sure you have heard it all before but my 2 cents and not just based on the last 2 games.

Scalabrine sucks and his minnutes should be given to Bill Walker so that this kid with tonnes of upside can develop

BBD and Powe are two similar in stature and do not provide enough variety off the bench. Move one along (BBD) and Play POB at backup. If he gets cut it has to be after having been given some minutes. There is only so much that can be assessed at training.

House is not a point guard has has no idea how to run an offence.

Tony Allen severley lacks a basketballers brain - he plays with his head down or looking at the hoop i.e. has no court vision.

Pruitt is the only legit replacement for Rondo off the bench but you can see the kid is drained of confidence because Doc is showing no confidence in him at all.

Channing Frye is not playing much for Portland - think about it a long big who can rebound and score off the bench.

Danny will get vet talent - guys who know how to win BUT isn't part of Docs remit teaching the young guys how to win instead of making them cheer leaders while using players developed elswhere for depth?

[Spinmove00]

Amen..Brotha - I couldn't agree with you more Induna

In training camp and in the preseason I was begging for Doc to utilize and develop Bill Walker, so we would no longer have to see Scalabrine.

I wanted them to sign Chris Anderson this summer, yes I know he lacks a mid-range jumper, but he plays great defense, rebounds, runs the floor, has great length and athleticism, and gives you %100 energy and effort every night.

House is not a point guard, and it pains me to see him have to bring the ball up the court and set up the offense.  Eddie would be alot more valuable in a shooting guards role..waiting to spot up and shot that sweet three.

I also agree about Gabe Pruitt, as he could be the answer at back up point guard.  He has a nice combination of Rondo's and House's skill set.  I think he stays in fron of his man better than both of them.  He can run the offense fluidly and get them in their sets alot faster than House.  He can shot the mid range and three pointer effectively.  He can penetrate and finish at the rim with his speed, length, and atheleticism.  All he needs is confidense and repetition and I think he could be vital to us winning # 18

I wanted Mattt Barnes in the offseaon.  Not sure if the Celtics tried or not, but he would have been perferct for our bench's offense and defense.  When we didnt get him I was hoping that Darius Miles would make the team.  I think he still could have help us out more than Scal, if he ever got into playing shape, which I think would have come.

We defenitely need a some length at the back up 4/5 spot and the 3.  We just are not a well balanced team right now.

[cordobes]

Is this 2006 again?

[Spinmove00]

I know Perk is hurt now and Rondo has played subpar the last two games, but these two need more playing time.  I understand resting the older players, but with Rondo and Perk hittin their stride they need more playing time.  Perk should be playing at least 35-38 mins per night and Rondo 38-40 mins.  I hate this whole sale substitution pattern of Doc's.  I think 2 starters, not necesarily the Big 3 should be in the game on most occasions.

[Induna]

Is this 2006 again?

nah it isn't but I deeply fear the Bynum factor might just be what people said it would be. It also really hurt to see the bench being eaten up by Vujacic and Ariza and co. Especially when there is talent like Walker and Pruitt available - hey of they fail I am wrong if they don't play we don't know. We know what Scal, BBD and House bring so now lets see if POB, Walker and Pruitt can bring

[guava_wrench]

Pruitt is legit? The main advantage of Pruitt over House is we aren't sure what Pruitt's shortcomings are. That doesn't make him legit. Pruitt's dribbling is probably more legit than Houses, but there is no indication that he runs the offense any better.

Pruitt drained of confidence? Based on what? When did he seem more confident, and what was the difference that indicates this change?

I wish we had more blowouts so that Pruitt could get more run earlier in games, but the team has not seemed successful with him on the floor. His open 3's look great.

[CoachBo]

Pruitt is legit? The main advantage of Pruitt over House is we aren't sure what Pruitt's shortcomings are. That doesn't make him legit. Pruitt's dribbling is probably more legit than Houses, but there is no indication that he runs the offense any better.

Pruitt drained of confidence? Based on what? When did he seem more confident, and what was the difference that indicates this change?

I wish we had more blowouts so that Pruitt could get more run earlier in games, but the team has not seemed successful with him on the floor. His open 3's look great.

TP

The fiction surrounding Pruitt on this board continues to grow ...

[Induna]

I did not say Pruitt was legit I said he is the best option at point after Rondo.

His confidence based on what I saw in preseason and what I see now has declined.

I am also not talking about his shooting ability - House is better than him at that.

Whats the point in making your own argument, attributing it to me and then responding it. You are answering your own question essentially what is the point of that!

[Induna]

TP

The fiction surrounding Pruitt on this board continues to grow ...

ah some more thoughtful insight coach 

[Andy Jick]

it's time to bring bill walker back and ease him into the rotation.  we need that "power 3" that danny craves and i believe walker can become that.  afterall, powe and davis were given a chance to play (and gain doc's trust)...why not let walker do the same.

[Chief]

Pruitt is legit? The main advantage of Pruitt over House is we aren't sure what Pruitt's shortcomings are. That doesn't make him legit. Pruitt's dribbling is probably more legit than Houses, but there is no indication that he runs the offense any better.

Pruitt drained of confidence? Based on what? When did he seem more confident, and what was the difference that indicates this change?

I wish we had more blowouts so that Pruitt could get more run earlier in games, but the team has not seemed successful with him on the floor. His open 3's look great.

Tommy always makes a point of talking about Pruitt's height on defense. I think it would have been effective last night.

[guava_wrench]

Pruitt is legit? The main advantage of Pruitt over House is we aren't sure what Pruitt's shortcomings are. That doesn't make him legit. Pruitt's dribbling is probably more legit than Houses, but there is no indication that he runs the offense any better.

Pruitt drained of confidence? Based on what? When did he seem more confident, and what was the difference that indicates this change?

I wish we had more blowouts so that Pruitt could get more run earlier in games, but the team has not seemed successful with him on the floor. His open 3's look great.

Tommy always makes a point of talking about Pruitt's height on defense. I think it would have been effective last night.

The height could have helped on the jumper where House was in the shooters face, but not tall enough to deflect the shot. There is the risk on the other hand of the mental errors.

I would love to see Pruitt get more minutes, but it is not because I believe it will help us win games at this point. I would like to see him become a contributor by season's end. The only problem is if we lose a few games to develop him and he is still not good enough. We could sacrifice home court advantage for nothing.

I don't see benching House as an option, since he is the most consistent offensive threat we have on the bench. I think we learned our lesson about that in the playoffs with the Cassell experiment.

[SalmonAndMashedPotatoes]

We have two issues on the 2nd team: no point guard and no veteran leadership.  If we could address at least one of those issues, we'd be at least to last year's bench level.

So, yeah, playing Pruitt would be a decent idea.  He's more a point guard than Eddie or TA; he has great defensive length; he's hungry; he has a year plus in our system; and he can fill it up if the offense breaks down (and unlike Eddie he can create his own shot and shoots well off the dribble).

The other idea is bringing in a veteran backup center to solidify things out there.

A bad idea would be bringing up Bill Walker or JR Giddens (unless forced to by injuries).  The thing is, we need a point guard or veteran leadership and those guys would bring neither.  I like both of their futures, but the time is not right, right now.

[Edgar]

Is it fair to say we miss 3 of our 4 most important players of the bench
Posey, Sam and PJ plays great role last year ( yes, even Sam, and specially the effect he has on the 4th bench House)

[Chief]

Pruitt is legit? The main advantage of Pruitt over House is we aren't sure what Pruitt's shortcomings are. That doesn't make him legit. Pruitt's dribbling is probably more legit than Houses, but there is no indication that he runs the offense any better.

Pruitt drained of confidence? Based on what? When did he seem more confident, and what was the difference that indicates this change?

I wish we had more blowouts so that Pruitt could get more run earlier in games, but the team has not seemed successful with him on the floor. His open 3's look great.

Tommy always makes a point of talking about Pruitt's height on defense. I think it would have been effective last night.

The height could have helped on the jumper where House was in the shooters face, but not tall enough to deflect the shot. There is the risk on the other hand of the mental errors.

I would love to see Pruitt get more minutes, but it is not because I believe it will help us win games at this point. I would like to see him become a contributor by season's end. The only problem is if we lose a few games to develop him and he is still not good enough. We could sacrifice home court advantage for nothing.

I don't see benching House as an option, since he is the most consistent offensive threat we have on the bench. I think we learned our lesson about that in the playoffs with the Cassell experiment.

I liked the preseason lineup of Pruitt and House in the same back-court. Maybe Doc should give it a try on back to back nights when guys really need rest.