Yankee's close to signing Manny?!?!

[Donoghus]

Congrats Yankee fans, you might've pulled even with the Sox now, might've.

[yall hate]

they cant sign manny.  you can only sign 3 type A FA's in one offseason.  Tex was their third.

[Redz]

they cant sign manny.  you can only sign 3 type A FA's in one offseason.  Tex was their third.

TP...Didn't know that one

A sign and trade then perhaps?

[yall hate]

they cant sign manny.  you can only sign 3 type A FA's in one offseason.  Tex was their third.

TP...Didn't know that one

A sign and trade then perhaps?

Can you even do a sign and trade in baseball?  I am not sure I have ever see/heard of one...

no, Manny wont be there.  they already have damon, matsui, nady, cabrera, swisher, and to a lesser extent Gardner in the OF.  I dont think there is room for another...

[Tr1boy]

Manny will sign with the angels. MAybe the redsox can make peace with him like how they did with epstein and bring him back. Haha
anything is possible.

He is looking for a 4 year deal and should then sign with a AL team so after 2 or 3 years he could be one of the better dh's in the league

[yall hate]

Manny will sign with the angels. MAybe the redsox can make peace with him like how they did with epstein and bring him back. Haha
anything is possible.

He is looking for a 4 year deal and should then sign with a AL team so after 2 or 3 years he could be one of the better dh's in the league

The angels already said they have 0 interest in manny. 

and right now all reports are that he is looking for 3 years, because no one has offered more then 1, maybe 2

[Toine43]

they cant sign manny.  you can only sign 3 type A FA's in one offseason.  Tex was their third.

This is not true. You can sign 3 Type A FAs, plus the number of Type A FAs you lose. The Type A FAs that the Yankees have lost are Mussina, Pettite, Damaso Marte, and Abreu, so they have the ability to sign 4 more Type A FAs.

[yall hate]

they cant sign manny.  you can only sign 3 type A FA's in one offseason.  Tex was their third.

This is not true. You can sign 3 Type A FAs, plus the number of Type A FAs you lose. The Type A FAs that the Yankees have lost are Mussina, Pettite, Damaso Marte, and Abreu, so they have the ability to sign 4 more Type A FAs.

I dont think you are right.  My main source is SOSH, because those guys know more about baseball then humanly possible, but there is this:

http://baseball.about.com/od/majorleaguebasics/a/freeagentprimer.htm

If there are 14 or fewer Type A or Type B free agents available, no team can sign more than one type A or B player. If there are between 15-38, no team can sign more than two. If there are between 39 and 62, there's a limit of three. However, teams can sign as many Type A or B free agents as they've lost, regardless of the limits above.

The however kicks in if you were to lose say 3 guys, but there were only 15-38 type A's out there (meaning 2 would be max) a team would be permitted to get 3.  But 3 is the complete and total max, irrespective of what you lose.



EDIT: Here is the exact language from the CBA. 

Clubs shall be limited in the number of Type A and B Players, as defined below, they may subsequently sign to contracts. The number of signings permitted shall be related to the number of Players electing free agency under this Section B. If there are 14 or less such Players, no Club may sign more than one Type A or B Player. If there are from 15 to 38 such Players, no Club may sign more than two Type A or B Players. If there are from 39 to 62 such Players, no Club may sign more than three Type A or B Players. If there are more than 62 such Players, the Club quotas shall be increased accordingly. There shall be no restrictions on the number of unranked Players that a Club may sign to contracts.

(b) Irrespective of the provisions of subparagraph (a) above, a Club shall be eligible to sign at least as many Type A and B Players as it may have lost through Players having become free agents under this Section at the close of the season just concluded.

(b) is where you were referencing the fact that they lost, but that doesnt mean you get to replace them, then get 3 more.  3 is the maximum number allowed (unless there were more then 62 type a FA's, which I dont believe there has ever been, and I know there isnt this year).  Thus, the Yankee's CANNOT sign Manny.

[yall hate]

Also, they didnt lose Marte.

And it is widely believed they will be resigning Petite.

[Tr1boy]

espn news has it that the angels are out of contention for manny.The dodgers are mad as heck that manny didn't even whiff at their offer.

I can see the orioles offering something close to the dodgers figure. Doubt he signs with them though for anything less than 100 million. Maybe the mets who just like the yankees want to buy a championship

Redsox back in the hunt too?? After a ridicoulusly good second half i believe he has at least three good years left in him.

3 years 65 million dollars, then trade ellsbury or jason bay

We saw epstein patch things up with the redsox org, chances are slim but i'd love to have him back.

Just wanted to add also that manny can't be too pleased with boras who favoured teix singing with the yankees before him

[Toine43]

they cant sign manny.  you can only sign 3 type A FA's in one offseason.  Tex was their third.

This is not true. You can sign 3 Type A FAs, plus the number of Type A FAs you lose. The Type A FAs that the Yankees have lost are Mussina, Pettite, Damaso Marte, and Abreu, so they have the ability to sign 4 more Type A FAs.

I dont think you are right.  My main source is SOSH, because those guys know more about baseball then humanly possible, but there is this:

http://baseball.about.com/od/majorleaguebasics/a/freeagentprimer.htm

If there are 14 or fewer Type A or Type B free agents available, no team can sign more than one type A or B player. If there are between 15-38, no team can sign more than two. If there are between 39 and 62, there's a limit of three. However, teams can sign as many Type A or B free agents as they've lost, regardless of the limits above.

The however kicks in if you were to lose say 3 guys, but there were only 15-38 type A's out there (meaning 2 would be max) a team would be permitted to get 3.  But 3 is the complete and total max, irrespective of what you lose.



EDIT: Here is the exact language from the CBA. 

Clubs shall be limited in the number of Type A and B Players, as defined below, they may subsequently sign to contracts. The number of signings permitted shall be related to the number of Players electing free agency under this Section B. If there are 14 or less such Players, no Club may sign more than one Type A or B Player. If there are from 15 to 38 such Players, no Club may sign more than two Type A or B Players. If there are from 39 to 62 such Players, no Club may sign more than three Type A or B Players. If there are more than 62 such Players, the Club quotas shall be increased accordingly. There shall be no restrictions on the number of unranked Players that a Club may sign to contracts.

(b) Irrespective of the provisions of subparagraph (a) above, a Club shall be eligible to sign at least as many Type A and B Players as it may have lost through Players having become free agents under this Section at the close of the season just concluded.

(b) is where you were referencing the fact that they lost, but that doesnt mean you get to replace them, then get 3 more.  3 is the maximum number allowed (unless there were more then 62 type a FA's, which I dont believe there has ever been, and I know there isnt this year).  Thus, the Yankee's CANNOT sign Manny.

I must have misisnterpreted what I read.

I'm curious - why does it say "at least" where it does? That doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't the number you lost be the max, according to what you're saying?

[Nerf DPOY]

Redsox back in the hunt too?? After a ridicoulusly good second half i believe he has at least three good years left in him.

3 years 65 million dollars, then trade ellsbury or jason bay

We saw epstein patch things up with the redsox org, chances are slim but i'd love to have him back.

Well, the Hatfield's and the McCoy's went on "The Family Feud" together once, so I guess anything's possible......except what you're proposing happening. That has no chance.

[yall hate]

EDIT: Here is the exact language from the CBA. 

Clubs shall be limited in the number of Type A and B Players, as defined below, they may subsequently sign to contracts. The number of signings permitted shall be related to the number of Players electing free agency under this Section B. If there are 14 or less such Players, no Club may sign more than one Type A or B Player. If there are from 15 to 38 such Players, no Club may sign more than two Type A or B Players. If there are from 39 to 62 such Players, no Club may sign more than three Type A or B Players. If there are more than 62 such Players, the Club quotas shall be increased accordingly. There shall be no restrictions on the number of unranked Players that a Club may sign to contracts.

(b) Irrespective of the provisions of subparagraph (a) above, a Club shall be eligible to sign at least as many Type A and B Players as it may have lost through Players having become free agents under this Section at the close of the season just concluded.

(b) is where you were referencing the fact that they lost, but that doesnt mean you get to replace them, then get 3 more.  3 is the maximum number allowed (unless there were more then 62 type a FA's, which I dont believe there has ever been, and I know there isnt this year).  Thus, the Yankee's CANNOT sign Manny.

I must have misisnterpreted what I read.

I'm curious - why does it say "at least" where it does? That doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't the number you lost be the max, according to what you're saying?

I believe that is because if you lose two type A free agents, but according to the number of types A's available, it would only allow you to sign 1, they say you can sign at least as many as you lose (so in that case even though the first part of the rule would say only 1, this exception allows you to sign 2). 

my question kicks in at what if you lose 4, but according to the guys over there, it stops at 3.  i havent been able to see the CBA myself, so it is possible it says 3 is the absolute max.  I am not sure, but they are certain it is 3 at max.

[Toine43]

EDIT: Here is the exact language from the CBA. 

Clubs shall be limited in the number of Type A and B Players, as defined below, they may subsequently sign to contracts. The number of signings permitted shall be related to the number of Players electing free agency under this Section B. If there are 14 or less such Players, no Club may sign more than one Type A or B Player. If there are from 15 to 38 such Players, no Club may sign more than two Type A or B Players. If there are from 39 to 62 such Players, no Club may sign more than three Type A or B Players. If there are more than 62 such Players, the Club quotas shall be increased accordingly. There shall be no restrictions on the number of unranked Players that a Club may sign to contracts.

(b) Irrespective of the provisions of subparagraph (a) above, a Club shall be eligible to sign at least as many Type A and B Players as it may have lost through Players having become free agents under this Section at the close of the season just concluded.

(b) is where you were referencing the fact that they lost, but that doesnt mean you get to replace them, then get 3 more.  3 is the maximum number allowed (unless there were more then 62 type a FA's, which I dont believe there has ever been, and I know there isnt this year).  Thus, the Yankee's CANNOT sign Manny.

I must have misisnterpreted what I read.

I'm curious - why does it say "at least" where it does? That doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't the number you lost be the max, according to what you're saying?

I believe that is because if you lose two type A free agents, but according to the number of types A's available, it would only allow you to sign 1, they say you can sign at least as many as you lose (so in that case even though the first part of the rule would say only 1, this exception allows you to sign 2). 

my question kicks in at what if you lose 4, but according to the guys over there, it stops at 3.  i havent been able to see the CBA myself, so it is possible it says 3 is the absolute max.  I am not sure, but they are certain it is 3 at max.

Well, tp for the info, in any case.

[Tr1boy]

not sure where you guys are getting this rule about getting to sign only 3 fa when there are news on espn and others that yankees are unlikely to pursue lowell and ramirez.

Unlikely doesn't mean can't

The major should have a cap instead of how much a player could make the most and that would make signings more even around the league