Yankee's close to signing Manny?!?!

[yall hate]

I think the best fit for Manny is with the Angels.  He would fit in perfectly there at DH.  It's the Angels only hope to finally beat the Sox in the playoffs.

Socia is like the biggest throwback manager ever, the last thing he wants his manny ramirez. i think thats a place that many would NEVER fit in.

I guess you didn't hear.  Just last week Socia admitted that he would love to have Manny and dismissed the notion that he can't handle difficult players.  He said that he only had a problem with one player his whole career and doesn't think he would have a problem dealing with Manny... and I agree.  I think Manny would fit in great at DH.  Manny will play every day if he was a DH.  I remember when he was filling in for Ortiz he loved it. It was when Ortiz came back and he had to play the field again that he started acting like he didn't want to play every day.  But still, I think this "Manny doesn't want to play" stuff is overblown has he has played the most games of most Red Sox players over the last few years. 

The problem with Manny as a DH there is then Vlad needs to play the field.  They dont seem to want to play him there as he has really become a pretty horrible fielder and cant seem to stay healthy. 

[Vermont Green]

I don't get the point that the Red Sox should have somehow just paid Manny or somehow kept him.  Manny quit on the team.  He put his contract above the team although I think it was Boras who played him like a fiddle.  Manny is a man though and he alone is responsible for his actions even if he was manipulated by his agent.

I am completely over Manny.  As for the Yankees, I would much rather see them sign Manny than sign Teixiera.  Manny on the Yankmees would be great drama to an already over the top rivalry.  Fenway would would be so unbelievably energized for Manny's first at bat or his first muff in the field.  Wow!  Imagine, someone on the Yankees to hate more than A-Rod.  It is just too perfect not to happen.

[furball]

Buster Olney (sp.) was on Mike and Mike in the mourning today and said there was no truth to these reports.  He said the Yankees had no intentions on signing Many to a muli-year deal.  They'd possibly do a one year deal but not a three year deal. 

[indeedproceed]

Yankees are what the spaniards call el-terreb-lay.

[Cman]

great, i hope they do sign him.
that way BoSox have a better chance with Tex, and the Yankees, regardless of who else they sign, have a better chance of imploding....

[nickagneta]

Manny in Yankee pinstripes?!?!

Yeah, I'm over it. As soon as Manny finds out he has to shave everyday and keep his hair short the sulking will begin. Then the media will get crazy with him if he has another slow Manny start and Manny will go silent and moody. Then Jeter will say something to him he doesn't like and Manny will suddenly start to not run out balls, not hustle to balls in the gap, and never take an extra base and then the war will be on.

Just what the Yankees need to take all the pressure off the ARod/Madonna media storm and allow ARod to get unracked so he can make it to the playoffs and put up his usual 2 for 19 with zero RBIs numbers.

Manny in NY = media explosion and self destruction just waiting to happen.

[Toine43]

I'd puke if this happened.

The funniest part about the Manny saga is that from the start the Red Sox never did anything to antagonize him - ever. I can imagine him coming back to Boston wearing pinstripes, knocking the cover off the ball, super motivated to get back at the team that wronged him. What did the Red Sox or their fan base ever do besides give him as much leniency as any guy who has ever played professional baseball? If he had just shut up and hit like he was perfectly capable of doing, Boston probably would have picked up both of his $20 million options.

What the Red Sox did, well what Theo did, was tell the whole world on National tv that they wanted to trade him.  That is what set off all the yapping in the press and then his eventual trade.  I think Theo did that on purpose to set Manny off to get the fans against Manny and then give him a great excuse to finally get rid of him.  Theo knew Manny was not going to keep quiet after he went public the way he did (remember going public is what Theo was always against, except when it benefits him (remember the gorilla suit?).  Don't get me wrong, I don't like the way Manny acted, just saying that it was not without provocation.  Manny was dumb to fall for Theo's ploy though.  Of course, this is just all my own opinion.

And why were the Red Sox so anxious to trade him? It's not like the Red Sox really gained anything from this. They didn't get any top prospects for Manny, rather, they gave away prospects to get rid of him (and had to eat Manny's contract). What they got in return for Manny and prospects was a solid player, but realistically about 50-60 cents on the dollar. If Manny would have just behaved, why would the Red Sox have given him up?

At the point when the trade rumors became public knowledge, Manny had already got in a scuffle with Youk, shoved the team's traveling secretary, and said he wanted out of Boston. When the Red Sox "told the whole world they wanted to trade him", all of these things had already happened, so I'm not sure how the Sox are to blame.

[EJPLAYA]

How sweet is it going to be when the Yanks sign him and the Sox beat them anyway?! That's worth it right there...

[Redz]

How sweet is it going to be when the Yanks sign him and the Sox beat them anyway?! That's worth it right there...

and the Sox will...the Yankees would just be screaming dysfunction. 

[Bankshot]

I'd puke if this happened.

The funniest part about the Manny saga is that from the start the Red Sox never did anything to antagonize him - ever. I can imagine him coming back to Boston wearing pinstripes, knocking the cover off the ball, super motivated to get back at the team that wronged him. What did the Red Sox or their fan base ever do besides give him as much leniency as any guy who has ever played professional baseball? If he had just shut up and hit like he was perfectly capable of doing, Boston probably would have picked up both of his $20 million options.

What the Red Sox did, well what Theo did, was tell the whole world on National tv that they wanted to trade him.  That is what set off all the yapping in the press and then his eventual trade.  I think Theo did that on purpose to set Manny off to get the fans against Manny and then give him a great excuse to finally get rid of him.  Theo knew Manny was not going to keep quiet after he went public the way he did (remember going public is what Theo was always against, except when it benefits him (remember the gorilla suit?).  Don't get me wrong, I don't like the way Manny acted, just saying that it was not without provocation.  Manny was dumb to fall for Theo's ploy though.  Of course, this is just all my own opinion.

And why were the Red Sox so anxious to trade him? It's not like the Red Sox really gained anything from this. They didn't get any top prospects for Manny, rather, they gave away prospects to get rid of him (and had to eat Manny's contract). What they got in return for Manny and prospects was a solid player, but realistically about 50-60 cents on the dollar. If Manny would have just behaved, why would the Red Sox have given him up?

At the point when the trade rumors became public knowledge, Manny had already got in a scuffle with Youk, shoved the team's traveling secretary, and said he wanted out of Boston. When the Red Sox "told the whole world they wanted to trade him", all of these things had already happened, so I'm not sure how the Sox are to blame.

I'm not saying that the Sox shouldn't have traded Manny or shouldn't have wanted to trade him.  I'm just saying that Theo shot himself in the foot with going public.  If he hadn't done that and challenged Manny publicly, maybe he wouldn't have had to eat some of his contract and maybe he could have worked until the end of the season so that the Sox could have gotten a couple of picks for him.  That's all I'm saying.

[nickagneta]

I'd puke if this happened.

The funniest part about the Manny saga is that from the start the Red Sox never did anything to antagonize him - ever. I can imagine him coming back to Boston wearing pinstripes, knocking the cover off the ball, super motivated to get back at the team that wronged him. What did the Red Sox or their fan base ever do besides give him as much leniency as any guy who has ever played professional baseball? If he had just shut up and hit like he was perfectly capable of doing, Boston probably would have picked up both of his $20 million options.

What the Red Sox did, well what Theo did, was tell the whole world on National tv that they wanted to trade him.  That is what set off all the yapping in the press and then his eventual trade.  I think Theo did that on purpose to set Manny off to get the fans against Manny and then give him a great excuse to finally get rid of him.  Theo knew Manny was not going to keep quiet after he went public the way he did (remember going public is what Theo was always against, except when it benefits him (remember the gorilla suit?).  Don't get me wrong, I don't like the way Manny acted, just saying that it was not without provocation.  Manny was dumb to fall for Theo's ploy though.  Of course, this is just all my own opinion.

And why were the Red Sox so anxious to trade him? It's not like the Red Sox really gained anything from this. They didn't get any top prospects for Manny, rather, they gave away prospects to get rid of him (and had to eat Manny's contract). What they got in return for Manny and prospects was a solid player, but realistically about 50-60 cents on the dollar. If Manny would have just behaved, why would the Red Sox have given him up?

At the point when the trade rumors became public knowledge, Manny had already got in a scuffle with Youk, shoved the team's traveling secretary, and said he wanted out of Boston. When the Red Sox "told the whole world they wanted to trade him", all of these things had already happened, so I'm not sure how the Sox are to blame.

I'm not saying that the Sox shouldn't have traded Manny or shouldn't have wanted to trade him.  I'm just saying that Theo shot himself in the foot with going public.  If he hadn't done that and challenged Manny publicly, maybe he wouldn't have had to eat some of his contract and maybe he could have worked until the end of the season so that the Sox could have gotten a couple of picks for him.  That's all I'm saying.

Whether Theo said he wanted to trade him or not made no difference. It's not like it was some claasified, for Red Sox management only secret that the Sox wanted to move Manny and that Manny wanted out. Logic dictates that since it was already known that the Sox had once put Manny on waivers, the Sox weren't happy with Manny's 2006 September disappearance, were not happy with Manny's constant need for days off and snubbing the All-Star game as a Red Sox representative, despised that he didn't run out hits on more than one occasion and that Manny had asked to be traded before the deadline 4 years in a row, had pushed down the traveling secretary, a man 20+ years his senior, and started a fist fight with another player that the Sox were going to have to eat lots if not all of Manny's salary.

[yall hate]

I'd puke if this happened.

The funniest part about the Manny saga is that from the start the Red Sox never did anything to antagonize him - ever. I can imagine him coming back to Boston wearing pinstripes, knocking the cover off the ball, super motivated to get back at the team that wronged him. What did the Red Sox or their fan base ever do besides give him as much leniency as any guy who has ever played professional baseball? If he had just shut up and hit like he was perfectly capable of doing, Boston probably would have picked up both of his $20 million options.

What the Red Sox did, well what Theo did, was tell the whole world on National tv that they wanted to trade him.  That is what set off all the yapping in the press and then his eventual trade.  I think Theo did that on purpose to set Manny off to get the fans against Manny and then give him a great excuse to finally get rid of him.  Theo knew Manny was not going to keep quiet after he went public the way he did (remember going public is what Theo was always against, except when it benefits him (remember the gorilla suit?).  Don't get me wrong, I don't like the way Manny acted, just saying that it was not without provocation.  Manny was dumb to fall for Theo's ploy though.  Of course, this is just all my own opinion.

And why were the Red Sox so anxious to trade him? It's not like the Red Sox really gained anything from this. They didn't get any top prospects for Manny, rather, they gave away prospects to get rid of him (and had to eat Manny's contract). What they got in return for Manny and prospects was a solid player, but realistically about 50-60 cents on the dollar. If Manny would have just behaved, why would the Red Sox have given him up?

At the point when the trade rumors became public knowledge, Manny had already got in a scuffle with Youk, shoved the team's traveling secretary, and said he wanted out of Boston. When the Red Sox "told the whole world they wanted to trade him", all of these things had already happened, so I'm not sure how the Sox are to blame.

I'm not saying that the Sox shouldn't have traded Manny or shouldn't have wanted to trade him.  I'm just saying that Theo shot himself in the foot with going public.  If he hadn't done that and challenged Manny publicly, maybe he wouldn't have had to eat some of his contract and maybe he could have worked until the end of the season so that the Sox could have gotten a couple of picks for him.  That's all I'm saying.

well the obvious tipping point was when manny said he couldnt play because of his knee, then forgot which knee he had given as his excuse.  the sox had to order him on the field. at that point, and the media found out about that, it was obvious to everyone in the baseball world that manny needed to go and the sox had to trade him.

[TradeProposalDude]

If true, New York is reverting to its old ways. Their payroll would hit a record level for a single season.

I have doubts that this goes through. This rumor seems to have holes in it. Would a move of this magnitude only be "announced" leading to a PC tomorrow? We heard about CC Sabathia and AJ Burnett for a solid week before they even arrived to NY to take their physicals.

The source given its history seems fairly reliable however. That, I cannot deny.

We're just going to have to wait it out and see. Obviously, the Yankees, with this move, become the front runners in the league to win the chip. Health, age, and all those things play a factor. And we are uncertain if Joe Girardi can handle all those personalities. Torre did better when his team had character guys that went about their roles with class, and subsequently, never stepped out of their mentality. Look at Scott Broscious, Paul O'Neill, Chuck Knobby, and Girardi himself. Torre's problems arrived when Steinbrenner began buying guys that had ego's too large respectively for even one clubhouse. Girardi's experience here would be tested. What better test to his patience than Manny Ramirez? heh.

[bostonfan23]

Apparently Ramirez isn't going to the LAAA, and obviously not the Yankees anymore. Dodgers? Giants?

[Redz]

Why not sign Manny too.

They can have a one gazillion dollar payroll.

and still lose