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Re: Could Gabe Pruitt become the next Eddie House?
« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2008, 03:22:39 PM »

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Gabe Pruitt a poor man's Eddie House?  So a poor man's journeyman?

That means he'll probably be playing in Europe at some point.

That's all I've been trying to say whilst being trolled.  TP.

The guy might not be in the NBA by the time the trade deadline comes around.  If PJ comes back or if we sign a guy like Mutumbo... or even Marbury... Pruitt will be one of the most likely to be cut. 

id rather the calcifing fossil on the end of the bench assume his assitant coaching duties earlier than planned.

you mean decrepit mutumbno?

Have you watched Mutombo playing last season? For example, when Yao went down with injury and they went in that long winning streak the C's eventually broke?

2007–08    Houston    39    25    15.9    .538    .000    .711    5.1    .1    .3    1.2    3.0

Pretty underwhelming to me.

Scola and Landry had pretty effective showings, though.
Also Houston's schedule was very weak during their win streak (8 teams out of 22 above .500).

You clearly haven't watched him.

Even if you want to go with stats, check his numbers post Yao-injury:

March: 20.3 minutes, 3.4 points, 6.5 rebounds, 59.4 FG%
April: 20, 6.2, 6.2, 60.6%

As a starter, he averaged 6/6 and 1.76 shot-blocks in 20 minutes and .575 FG% in 25 games.

When he was on court, Houston's defense was better by 2.1 points per 100 possessions, and their FG% allowed went down by 1.8%. Their rebound was also improved when he was on the floor.

And a 22 winning streak in the NBA is always impressive, no matter the strenght of the schedule. That's why it doesn't happen a lot.

Re: Could Gabe Pruitt become the next Eddie House?
« Reply #46 on: December 16, 2008, 03:25:09 PM »

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@Redz:

As a fan, I want to root my team to win, not necessarily experiment with rotations to "see what we have".  I know what we have and that's a 23-2 team.

Let the coaching staff develop and judge fringe players...in practice.

Edit: If he's getting actual in-game time as a trade-bait requisite from another team, then playing Gabe is cool with me.  I can guarantee you though that barring injury, if he's still on the roster, we will not see Pruitt in the playoffs.

you ever consider doc has been doing that and now is rewarding pruitt with minutes in a game?
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Re: Could Gabe Pruitt become the next Eddie House?
« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2008, 03:28:42 PM »

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@Redz:

As a fan, I want to root my team to win, not necessarily experiment with rotations to "see what we have".  I know what we have and that's a 23-2 team.

Let the coaching staff develop and judge fringe players...in practice.

Edit: If he's getting actual in-game time as a trade-bait requisite from another team, then playing Gabe is cool with me.  I can guarantee you though that barring injury, if he's still on the roster, we will not see Pruitt in the playoffs.

you ever consider doc has been doing that and now is rewarding pruitt with minutes in a game?

TP

Re: Could Gabe Pruitt become the next Eddie House?
« Reply #48 on: December 16, 2008, 03:32:19 PM »

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@Redz:

As a fan, I want to root my team to win, not necessarily experiment with rotations to "see what we have".  I know what we have and that's a 23-2 team.

Let the coaching staff develop and judge fringe players...in practice.


I agree with that, absolutely.

I'm not lobbying for Pruitt to play necessarily, I'm just asking how we can even make a judgment on the guy since we're not in the practices and we basically have garbage time, preseason, and D-League to judge the guy on.
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Re: Could Gabe Pruitt become the next Eddie House?
« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2008, 03:32:57 PM »

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@Redz:

As a fan, I want to root my team to win, not necessarily experiment with rotations to "see what we have".  I know what we have and that's a 23-2 team.

Let the coaching staff develop and judge fringe players...in practice.

Edit: If he's getting actual in-game time as a trade-bait requisite from another team, then playing Gabe is cool with me.  I can guarantee you though that barring injury, if he's still on the roster, we will not see Pruitt in the playoffs.

you ever consider doc has been doing that and now is rewarding pruitt with minutes in a game?

TP

Pruitt only played last night because House was out
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Re: Could Gabe Pruitt become the next Eddie House?
« Reply #50 on: December 16, 2008, 03:35:50 PM »

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I don't really think Gabe Pruitt compares too well to Eddie House.  Gabe is 6'4" and long, Eddie is a generous 6'1" and not very long.  Gabe brings a well-rounded package to the table, Eddie can shoot and that's about it.  

I don't mean this as a shot at Eddie.  He hustles and leaves everything on the court every night - that's all you can ask for.  

But I wouldn't take Gabe's 'limited' upside so lightly.  He's quick, very long for a PG (though a bit small for a 2 guard), and athletic.  He plays good to very good man defense, and I have no problems with his team defense either.  He seems to be a very intelligent player on the court.  He's not really a distributor and he's not strong enough to ever be a great rebounder, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that he could start for somebody at some point.  It won't be here because he'll never be as good as Rondo in my opinion, but he could be a very solid player in his own right.

Re: Could Gabe Pruitt become the next Eddie House?
« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2008, 03:46:37 PM »

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I'm not denying I'm not a House or Allen fan, and it's basically for the same reason: both are chokers.

House has a history of being unclutch.  He hit ONE three that mattered in the Finals, but was conspicously absent the rest of the playoffs.  He's not a go-to guy.  And I won't even talk about TA when it comes to that...

But seriously, Pruitt is another in this mold.  He hasn't shown he can "take over" when it counts.  This is something we KNOW Cassell can do.  We saw it in Pierce and hell even Joe Johnson back in the day.

Pruitt and House don't have it, sorry.  But I digress..

Crownsy said it well. The facts actually show you are just making stuff up to prove your wrong point. He IS clutch. As far as being absent in the playoffs, that was because Doc had some crazy notion that Sam I Was somehow deserved the guys minutes. Once he got the opportunity to come in he threw down the results Crownsy mentioned. Making overblown statements always comes back at some point or other.

Re: Could Gabe Pruitt become the next Eddie House?
« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2008, 03:49:25 PM »

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdUhMBI-dkQ

take it to the house.

my favorite Eddie play as a celtic right here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp1yvwsB_M8&NR=1

Re: Could Gabe Pruitt become the next Eddie House?
« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2008, 04:08:47 PM »

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Doc has had a history of hiding decent players on the bench in the past, I must say.

I remember griping over Justin Reed getting minutes over Ryan Gomes and Telfair playing over Rondo.

I love Doc and I understand that this may have been a part of the learning and developmental process, but the diehard fans are right about the players sometimes.

I think Gabe will become a better player than Eddie. Eddie just has the experience and the confidence right now. If their ages were reversed, I bet Gabe would be the backup at the 1. Neither are true 1's, but Gabe would make a better 2 than Eddie.

Re: Could Gabe Pruitt become the next Eddie House?
« Reply #54 on: December 16, 2008, 04:39:55 PM »

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@Redz:

As a fan, I want to root my team to win, not necessarily experiment with rotations to "see what we have".  I know what we have and that's a 23-2 team.

Let the coaching staff develop and judge fringe players...in practice.

Edit: If he's getting actual in-game time as a trade-bait requisite from another team, then playing Gabe is cool with me.  I can guarantee you though that barring injury, if he's still on the roster, we will not see Pruitt in the playoffs.

you ever consider doc has been doing that and now is rewarding pruitt with minutes in a game?

TP

Pruitt only played last night because House was out

pruitt has been getting minutes the last 5-8 games, he had 0 before that.

are they rotation minutes? no. but thier minutes he wasen't getting in blowouts before.
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Re: Could Gabe Pruitt become the next Eddie House?
« Reply #55 on: December 16, 2008, 04:48:25 PM »

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Doc has had a history of hiding decent players on the bench in the past, I must say.

I remember griping over Justin Reed getting minutes over Ryan Gomes and Telfair playing over Rondo.

I love Doc and I understand that this may have been a part of the learning and developmental process, but the diehard fans are right about the players sometimes.

I think Gabe will become a better player than Eddie. Eddie just has the experience and the confidence right now. If their ages were reversed, I bet Gabe would be the backup at the 1. Neither are true 1's, but Gabe would make a better 2 than Eddie.

Or Doc simply waited until they were ready to produce and be able to handle playing in the NBA, both physically and mentally before throwing them to the wolves.  It is the chicken and the egg, there is no way to know whether Doc was holding the players back, or he was just giving them the opportunity at the right time to be in a position to succeed. 

Re: Could Gabe Pruitt become the next Eddie House?
« Reply #56 on: December 16, 2008, 04:49:20 PM »

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@Redz:

As a fan, I want to root my team to win, not necessarily experiment with rotations to "see what we have".  I know what we have and that's a 23-2 team.

Let the coaching staff develop and judge fringe players...in practice.

Edit: If he's getting actual in-game time as a trade-bait requisite from another team, then playing Gabe is cool with me.  I can guarantee you though that barring injury, if he's still on the roster, we will not see Pruitt in the playoffs.

you ever consider doc has been doing that and now is rewarding pruitt with minutes in a game?

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Pruitt only played last night because House was out

pruitt has been getting minutes the last 5-8 games, he had 0 before that.

are they rotation minutes? no. but thier minutes he wasen't getting in blowouts before.

It's a small point (no pun intended), but here's Pruitt's game log

http://caboose.basketball.sportsline.com/players/player/gamelog/1231892

He's pretty steadily gotten garbage minutes in blowouts from the get go(the only garbage time he's missed out on was when he was ill).
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Re: Could Gabe Pruitt become the next Eddie House?
« Reply #57 on: December 16, 2008, 05:12:57 PM »

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In the limited time that Ive seen Gabe play, he actually reminds me of a player we use to have, Delonte West.

Opportunistic Player. Good Shooter. Has limited play making abilities, but can still make plays none the less.  He isnt an overly physical defender, but plays with a lot of energy, hustle, and is very pesky. 
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Re: Could Gabe Pruitt become the next Eddie House?
« Reply #58 on: December 16, 2008, 05:19:39 PM »

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In the limited time that Ive seen Gabe play, he actually reminds me of a player we use to have, Delonte West.

Opportunistic Player. Good Shooter. Has limited play making abilities, but can still make plays none the less.  He isnt an overly physical defender, but plays with a lot of energy, hustle, and is very pesky. 

I agree with the pesky part on defense. Maybe he is kind of quiet like West was. I don't think he plays with the all out reckless abandon though that west and House though which I think would make him better, at least on the defensive end. I like calm on offense though. Not a bad comparison in parts!

Re: Could Gabe Pruitt become the next Eddie House?
« Reply #59 on: December 16, 2008, 06:35:31 PM »

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Very different players. He still has ways to go till he reaches House's current level though.

r u serious?? Ok eddie house hustles and is one of the better three point shooters in the league but pruitt is so much more complete player minus the experience.

And guess what he can actually get the ball over the mid court line

House is most effective playing with the big three or if you need clutch shooting basically

Our second line offense has suked thus far and a big blame has to go to eddie house for not making it easier for the other players to get baskets.  Give pruitt more run