Scal played great D against the Bucks

[Atzar]

Since Walker is not listed in the combine official measurements we will never know for sure but he sure appears to be shorter than PP and Ray.  But can we agree that TA and Giddens as  3's are limited because of their height.

Alright, I had a much more detailed post typed out, but I lost it when my wireless crapped out for a minute.  I'll summarize it here:

I'm using these three pages as sources:

Giddens' measurements:  http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/measurements.php?page=&year=2008&sort2=DESC&draft=0&pos=2&sort=5
Average measurements according to height:  http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?page=averages&year=All
Average measurements according to position:  http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?page=avepos&year=All

Giddens is 6'4" without shoes, with a 6'11.25" wingspan and 8'8" standing reach.  In the 2008 draft class, he had the wingspan and reach that was typical of a 6'6" player.  Since these two measurements are more appropriate than height when determining size, I still contend that he's big enough to play the position adequately.  His standing reach, after all, is exactly average for an SF, and his wingspan is actually a little longer than average (though not by much).  So while my memory that he's as long as a 6'8" player was off, he's nonetheless big enough to play the position adequately in terms of size. 

Also, let me clarify my intentions:  I'm not saying that Giddens should exclusively play at the 3.  I'm just saying that he's not limited there because of his size. 

[feckless]

Atzar I agree with everything you just said --the point I was trying to make was that JR, Tony for sure, and maybe Bill Walker all fit the same description--2's first but can play some 3.

I would also agree that your reading of the combine numbers is more thorough, what I looked at in those measurements was that JR had the same standing reach as most of the other 6"4" players.

[housecall]

scal is a likeable guy and fun to root for (and laugh at), but lets call a spade a spade....dude is garbage!

then you must have a real high opinion of TA,Rondo and POB these days.I give credit where and when its due.Im not really posting about what Scal overall game is but even so i dont put him in the garbage category.He helped his team in time of need(urgency)and thats what counts.(imo)   

what does my opinion of those other guys have to do with scal?  my assessment is based on HIS play on the floor over the last few years.  again, he is likeable, but his game is garbage!

you give credit when and where it is due....fine.  he had a decent game against the bucks. every other game he has been involved in this season, he has been a joke. maybe you like to break everything down game by game, but my statement was made looking at the big picture.

I don't want to turn this into a debate  over Scal's game because we all are aware of his weaknesses .I posted about his positive contribution right after a game we came close to losing.Scal was one of the bright spots playing out there aganist the Bucks.Its so far and in-between when Scal gets any "love" on here so it was his day,simple as that.I know he is not a good overall player,and his offensive skills are limited. TP to you for your opinions.

[D Dub]

This won't be the last of Scal.  By the AllStar break, performances like this from him will become so common we won't even need to act surprised.  Like I said in the preseason, 08-09 will be a career year for Scal.

[Roy Hobbs]

In other news, apparently the Scal-a-brin-e chants get under Scal's skin:

"We are in Boston," Scalabrine said recently. "It detracts from the focus. We are the Boston Celtics, and for the crowd to cheer for an individual takes away from our team and what we are trying to do. Let's just say it's not ubuntu [the South African word meaning unity].

"The way I see it, it takes away from what the Boston Celtics are trying to do, the focus that we have as a team, and how as a team we don't believe in any individualism. We believe in being as a team."
. . .
"I'm not thinking about it from an individual perspective," he said. "I'm just thinking [that] you've got to keep your composure. And if you go out there and get an open shot, knock it down.
. . .
Rivers has said that the chanting of Scalabrine's name by the home fans seems to make him tentative offensively.

"It makes it hard on him because there is a weight when people start chanting his name," Allen said. "You are more conscious to go out and make the right play." . . .

. . . "More times than not I've gone home and thought about how it's a more mentally challenging way to play basketball than I'm up for," Scalabrine said. "You feel uncomfortable while you're out there playing when all these people are out there chanting. From a mental side . . . you have to get over that and try to be successful while they're doing that."

And Scalabrine agreed that the fans' enthusiasm has made him tentative offensively.

"When there is so much focus on the individual, it makes you want to refocus on the team," Scalabrine said. "You can chant all you want, but I'm still going to pass to the right guy and I'm still going to play basketball the same way. It's not going to change the way I play. It's going to make me more focused on the team."

Link.

[housecall]

In other news, apparently the Scal-a-brin-e chants get under Scal's skin:

"We are in Boston," Scalabrine said recently. "It detracts from the focus. We are the Boston Celtics, and for the crowd to cheer for an individual takes away from our team and what we are trying to do. Let's just say it's not ubuntu [the South African word meaning unity].

"The way I see it, it takes away from what the Boston Celtics are trying to do, the focus that we have as a team, and how as a team we don't believe in any individualism. We believe in being as a team."
. . .
"I'm not thinking about it from an individual perspective," he said. "I'm just thinking [that] you've got to keep your composure. And if you go out there and get an open shot, knock it down.
. . .
Rivers has said that the chanting of Scalabrine's name by the home fans seems to make him tentative offensively.

"It makes it hard on him because there is a weight when people start chanting his name," Allen said. "You are more conscious to go out and make the right play." . . .

. . . "More times than not I've gone home and thought about how it's a more mentally challenging way to play basketball than I'm up for," Scalabrine said. "You feel uncomfortable while you're out there playing when all these people are out there chanting. From a mental side . . . you have to get over that and try to be successful while they're doing that."

And Scalabrine agreed that the fans' enthusiasm has made him tentative offensively.

"When there is so much focus on the individual, it makes you want to refocus on the team," Scalabrine said. "You can chant all you want, but I'm still going to pass to the right guy and I'm still going to play basketball the same way. It's not going to change the way I play. It's going to make me more focused on the team."

Link.

Thanks for that info..tp to you

[crownsy]

In other news, apparently the Scal-a-brin-e chants get under Scal's skin:

"We are in Boston," Scalabrine said recently. "It detracts from the focus. We are the Boston Celtics, and for the crowd to cheer for an individual takes away from our team and what we are trying to do. Let's just say it's not ubuntu [the South African word meaning unity].

"The way I see it, it takes away from what the Boston Celtics are trying to do, the focus that we have as a team, and how as a team we don't believe in any individualism. We believe in being as a team."
. . .
"I'm not thinking about it from an individual perspective," he said. "I'm just thinking [that] you've got to keep your composure. And if you go out there and get an open shot, knock it down.
. . .
Rivers has said that the chanting of Scalabrine's name by the home fans seems to make him tentative offensively.

"It makes it hard on him because there is a weight when people start chanting his name," Allen said. "You are more conscious to go out and make the right play." . . .

. . . "More times than not I've gone home and thought about how it's a more mentally challenging way to play basketball than I'm up for," Scalabrine said. "You feel uncomfortable while you're out there playing when all these people are out there chanting. From a mental side . . . you have to get over that and try to be successful while they're doing that."

And Scalabrine agreed that the fans' enthusiasm has made him tentative offensively.

"When there is so much focus on the individual, it makes you want to refocus on the team," Scalabrine said. "You can chant all you want, but I'm still going to pass to the right guy and I'm still going to play basketball the same way. It's not going to change the way I play. It's going to make me more focused on the team."

Link.

I like the tact by sayin git distracts from the "we not me" image. we all know it just bugs the heck out of him (it certainly would me) to be some sort of living blowout mascot.

[Kuberski33]

In other news, apparently the Scal-a-brin-e chants get under Scal's skin:

Frankly I'm sick of them too.  The guy has some talent and would be playing regularly save for unexpected blossoming of both BBD and Powe last year.  (I think Danny expected one to emerge but not both).

He ain't gifted by NBA standards but he's still a pro who has proven that he's at least good enough to stay in the league.  Worse than being booed is being made fun of and it becomes a distraction to the team -- and probably makes the guy timid offensively which could become a problem if they ever have to rely on him to be a rotation player.

[Roy Hobbs]

I like the tact by sayin git distracts from the "we not me" image. we all know it just bugs the heck out of him (it certainly would me) to be some sort of living blowout mascot.

Yeah...  that part was definitely a bit comical.  You'd expect that line of reasoning from Paul or KG if fans were chanting "MVP", but not in regards to the Scal chants.  I think he doesn't like them because they're mocking, and that's fair.

[D Dub]

Well hopefully this helps put an end to the Scal chants. 


Nothing is worse than a home crowd making fun of their own team.  Especially a championship caliber Boston Celtic team.  We are better than that.

[rondilla]

Scal did a solid job against Jefferson, but let's not forget that he played against him quite a bit in practice for the Nets. i'd be willing to bet that Scal was matched up against him quite a bit back in those days and that Doc felt he'd have a much better chance against Richard than some untested rookie. I like how he beat RJ up a bit. physical players aren't used to others doing the same thing to them.

[Scribbles]

scal is a likeable guy and fun to root for (and laugh at), but lets call a spade a spade....dude is garbage!

And though his game may be garbage, what makes all of ours seeing as I don't see anybody on an NBA roster on this blog.     Seriously he's better than anybody at basketball on this blog. 

[dark_lord]

scal is a likeable guy and fun to root for (and laugh at), but lets call a spade a spade....dude is garbage!

And though his game may be garbage, what makes all of ours seeing as I don't see anybody on an NBA roster on this blog.     Seriously he's better than anybody at basketball on this blog. 

are you serious?!  obviously he is better than anyone of us on the blog....he is a PROFESSIONAL.  how about keeping things in perspective.  are you naive in thinking that my post implies that i, or anyone else on the blog, is a better player?!  do i, and everyone else on the blog, need to preface everything we post by saying "within the context of the nba....". 

[dark_lord]

scal is a likeable guy and fun to root for (and laugh at), but lets call a spade a spade....dude is garbage!

then you must have a real high opinion of TA,Rondo and POB these days.I give credit where and when its due.Im not really posting about what Scal overall game is but even so i dont put him in the garbage category.He helped his team in time of need(urgency)and thats what counts.(imo)   

what does my opinion of those other guys have to do with scal?  my assessment is based on HIS play on the floor over the last few years.  again, he is likeable, but his game is garbage!

you give credit when and where it is due....fine.  he had a decent game against the bucks. every other game he has been involved in this season, he has been a joke. maybe you like to break everything down game by game, but my statement was made looking at the big picture.

I don't want to turn this into a debate  over Scal's game because we all are aware of his weaknesses .I posted about his positive contribution right after a game we came close to losing.Scal was one of the bright spots playing out there aganist the Bucks.Its so far and in-between when Scal gets any "love" on here so it was his day,simple as that.I know he is not a good overall player,and his offensive skills are limited. TP to you for your opinions.

housecall,  thank you.  i appreciate that you respect my stance.  i appreciate the TP and gave you one as well.  your post sheds light on your stance as well as your character on the blog.  great job!

[Scribbles]

scal is a likeable guy and fun to root for (and laugh at), but lets call a spade a spade....dude is garbage!

And though his game may be garbage, what makes all of ours seeing as I don't see anybody on an NBA roster on this blog.     Seriously he's better than anybody at basketball on this blog. 

are you serious?!  obviously he is better than anyone of us on the blog....he is a PROFESSIONAL.  how about keeping things in perspective.  are you naive in thinking that my post implies that i, or anyone else on the blog, is a better player?!  do i, and everyone else on the blog, need to preface everything we post by saying "within the context of the nba....". 

I wasn't saying it was you, but people in general on this blog. I get the opinion some people think they are better than Scal too.  I just happened to quote you.  No need to jump on my case...I presume its a big jedi outbreak problem this week and that caused you to react like that.     No hard feelings man.