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idea: Move the Marlins to Boston
« on: October 31, 2008, 02:38:10 PM »

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you know, maybe this isn't a bad idea

http://firebrandal.com/2008/10/move-the-marlins-to-boston.html

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It has never been more difficult to get a ticket to professional sports than it is in Boston as of Halloween day, 2008. While the Red Sox have sold out every game for 4+ years, things aren't much better with Boston's other teams. The Celtics, coming off a championship, have hiked prices and sold out of any seats under $37 (read: not many) on the first day. The Patriots, even with Brady's demise, are going to be selling out games for an awful long time. Even the comparatively lowly Bruins start at $31 a game for a student ticket in the nosebleeds.

In short, unlike virtually every other major city in the US, Boston is the only place where you can't walk up to the door of a professional event and purchase tickets for anything less than $50+. Our opponent in the ALCS, as a counterpoint, sell upper deck seats for $9, with free parking if you bring 4 or more people in the same car. So, for $36 in TB you can get 4 people a seat. In Fenway, you have to purchase 9 months in advance, and it's $20 for a standing room ticket.

To me, it's incredibly simple: we have the highest demand, at the very least we should have comparative supply. Obviously every team in the majors is trying to artificially decrease the number of available tickets, but I believe we have reached an untenable situation for Boston sports fans, where the sheer frustration of never being able to attend any games will eventually sour people on following sports at all. Everyone has fond stories to tell of their first game, or heading into the park in the summer with your family. As it is now, this situation is nearly impossible.

The Marlins simply do not have a solid foundation in Florida. After two championships in 6 years, regardless of any excuses, the fans simply don't care. With the legislature dragging its feet in getting taxpayers to give hundreds of millions to an unpopular team (good luck with that one, guys), and Dolphin Stadium being at best a mediocre home to any sport, the Marlins may not be long for Florida.

The other issue is the recession/depression. Florida has been hit harder by foreclosures than Massachusetts, and has a larger elderly resident base. When times are tough, it makes sense to consolidate with a known strength. Does anyone really doubt that at least 14,000 Bostonians would go to a game each night, especially if ticket prices are closer to league average than Boston average?

Surely there are obstacles to the Boston Pilgrims. Boston, of course, had two teams up until the Braves move to Milwaukee, but Boston is a dramatically different city now. Back then, while the Red Sox were still very popular, they weren't the phenomenon they've been over the last decade. Boston has also evolved from a purely working class city to more of a metropolis, offering more disposable income even during a recession. And, purely statistically, in 1950 3,456,063 lived in the Boston metro area, as of 2006, 4,482,857.

Secondly, funding would be a concern. Until a ballpark could be built, the Fenway Sports Group would, I'm sure, be happy for added revenue by having two teams use Fenway Park. With the number of hi-tech companies in the Boston area, I believe we could work a similar arrangement to that of Metropolitan Stadium around mid-century, where companies treated the team and stadium as an investment, and shared in the profits in exchange for up-front capital.

The other question, of course, is the Red Sox, who surely enjoy their monopoly status. But it would be clear from the start that the Pilgrims would be the second team in Boston, as an addition instead of a replacement to the Red Sox. As a peace offering, much like Peter Angelos and the Nationals a few years back, I believe the Pilgrims should be placed under the NESN banner, allowing FSG to profit off of the second team.

Something simply needs to break when it comes to the current sports landscape. Everyone else in the country can see sports without taking out a loan, and without buying 6-10 months before. Why not us?
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Re: idea: Move the Marlins to Boston
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2008, 02:46:34 PM »

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Pilgrims?

Hell no. I think we should force the Braves to give us our name back.  Better yet, Marlins, shmarlins, let's take the Braves from Atlanta.

I'd go see some games if we got an NL team.  Sure.  I'd even root for them (I think).

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Re: idea: Move the Marlins to Boston
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2008, 03:46:25 PM »

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I think this is a recycled idea from the "move the Expos to Boston" days.  I know that got a bit of consideration, although that may have been on a temporary basis.

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Re: idea: Move the Marlins to Boston
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2008, 04:01:07 PM »

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Pilgrims?

How about the New England Caped Cods?

Re: idea: Move the Marlins to Boston
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2008, 04:30:18 PM »

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Roy is right.  This was an idea proposed for the Expos back around '01/'02.  Its an interesting idea but I think there's just too many barriers for it to become a reality.

It'd be awfully interesting to have it happen, though.  And the thought of some competition to bring down ticket prices would be embraced.

EDIT:  Also, the thought of finally getting a ballpark on the waterfront is mighty appealing.  It could be Pac Bell East (or whatever San Fran's ballpark is called now)


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Re: idea: Move the Marlins to Boston
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2008, 05:06:43 PM »

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Pilgrims?

How about the New England Caped Cods?


Oh man, if they buy that name I'm buying beers for everyone!
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Re: idea: Move the Marlins to Boston
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2008, 08:59:20 AM »

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That be kind of cool though.  Hanley Ramirez playing in Boston where he belongs haha
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