Miles is Waived

[cordobes]

From what I've seen, Miles is not even close to Scalabrine at this point. Or to Brian Cardinal. I can't really think of active NBA players, except those typical slow-footed, heavy and veteran centers a la Magloire or Jerome James, to whom one can compare Miles in terms of athleticism and awkwardness. It doesn't take much time to evaluate the physical condition of a player when he's so flagrantly handicapped like Miles, in my opinion.

I hope he can get back some of his athleticism in order to play basketball again, probably at a lower level. Good luck to him.

[greenwise]

It's a pity,I really wanted Miles to make the roster...

Instead there may be more Scalabrick nights of 2 pts, 1 reb in 18min... 

[nickagneta]

I pretty much expected this; you don't have multiple doctors label your injury career-ending and then find a productive role on a championship team.  It was worth the gamble, but the odds of Miles ever making the roster were extremely long from the beginning. 

Yeah, you definitely called it all along.  One of these days I am going to sneak some of the Green Kool-Aid into your drink when you aren't looking, so your logic and reasoning doesn't continue to get in the way of the unbridled fanatacism.

Have Edgar spike his next batch of coffee!!!

No more Herbie Husker, nick?

I put up Herbie to balance the karma for you considering that awful avatar you were forced to have up this month. Now that you're back to normal I'm a dog dude once again.

As for the subject at hand, right now Scalabrine is 10 times the NBA player that Darius Miles is. For all the warts on Scal's game, he is still a very good defender in our system, from all accounts a great locker room presence and great practice player, and as shown from the game the other day can hit an outside shot every once in a while.

And......he doesn't have a ten game suspension and the gigantic possibility of a future crippling knee injury hanging over his head.

I have said it from day one with Miles. Who was going to be cut off of this team once the 16 guys all came to camp was as easy a prediction as there was in sports this year.

[EJPLAYA]

It's a pity,I really wanted Miles to make the roster...

Instead there may be more Scalabrick nights of 2 pts, 1 reb in 18min... 

Stop falsifying the guy's stats. They aren't spectacular, but they aren't that bad. First of all he averaged 10.7 min a night. He scored 1.8 pts, 1.6 boards, .8 assists, and shot 33% from the three point line. Considering he only played in half the games all year and only in spotty stretches it wasn't that bad. The guy showed us the other night in preseason that he is a competent guy on the floor that plays team ball. He's not athletic, not great at any one thing necessarily, but he can shoot the ball from the corner if given the opportunity.

That's a heck of a lot more than Miles was going to give us as well. I wish the guy well, but he physically isn't even close to being there.

[johnnyrondo]

It's a pity,I really wanted Miles to make the roster...

Instead there may be more Scalabrick nights of 2 pts, 1 reb in 18min... 

Stop falsifying the guy's stats. They aren't spectacular, but they aren't that bad. First of all he averaged 10.7 min a night. He scored 1.8 pts, 1.6 boards, .8 assists, and shot 33% from the three point line. Considering he only played in half the games all year and only in spotty stretches it wasn't that bad. The guy showed us the other night in preseason that he is a competent guy on the floor that plays team ball. He's not athletic, not great at any one thing necessarily, but he can shoot the ball from the corner if given the opportunity.

That's a heck of a lot more than Miles was going to give us as well. I wish the guy well, but he physically isn't even close to being there.

He wasn't falsifying his stats. He was figuring that if Scal played another 7.3 minutes a game he might get his average up to 2 points per game! 

[Fan from VT]

I was hoping for a miracle, but oh well.

I hope he continues working hard at a comeback and sees this as a small success on the way to playing again.

We know he's not doing it for the money, since the vet contract he's aiming for is pennies compared to the Portland money he's still getting. Hopefully this means he's very dedicated to basketball.

The truth is that he needs to be back to peak conditioning for his athleticism and at least 90% recovered in terms of pure flexibility/athleticism, because he wasn't a very good player even before his injury. So he's got a lot of recovery left ahead of him; I hope he continues to progress.


As an aside, I really want to sign Kirk Snyder to a cheap deal.

[greenwise]

It's a pity,I really wanted Miles to make the roster...

Instead there may be more Scalabrick nights of 2 pts, 1 reb in 18min... 

Stop falsifying the guy's stats. They aren't spectacular, but they aren't that bad. First of all he averaged 10.7 min a night. He scored 1.8 pts, 1.6 boards, .8 assists, and shot 33% from the three point line. Considering he only played in half the games all year and only in spotty stretches it wasn't that bad. The guy showed us the other night in preseason that he is a competent guy on the floor that plays team ball. He's not athletic, not great at any one thing necessarily, but he can shoot the ball from the corner if given the opportunity.

That's a heck of a lot more than Miles was going to give us as well. I wish the guy well, but he physically isn't even close to being there.

Hey man, relax... I've seen many nights of Scal in which he has these stats, i didn't say he averaged that..

And now, how many nights like the NJersey one has he had in the last months? He normally struggles to make baskets and to grab any rebounds. On court, the only valuable thing he is really good at is team defense. Other than that I don't see what he adds to this team.

Edited: just for fun, check his game by game stats from last year:

Some examples of what i mentioned (i am falsifying?)

April 14 vs NY: 2 pts, 2 reb in 19 min
Feb 8 vs Min: 0 pts, 3 reb in 19 min
Jan 31 vs Dal: 0pts, 2 ast in 17 min
Jan 27 vs Orl: 1 pt, 1 reb in 22 min

Most of his nights he scores a basket or two and get a couple rebounds... plus he has missed lots of open look shots last season. You can'r rely on him as a shooter anymore, he lacks confidence.

To his credit though, he seems to play well versus his former team. He played well the other day and had 2 good games against them last season


http://www.nba.com/playerfile/brian_scalabrine/game_by_game_stats.html

[johnnyrondo]

do you think that danny has a deal with portland that was predicated on miles being cut

No. That's silly. If anything, it would have been risky to keep Miles and anger Portland. With their deep pockets, you never know what they could do to get us back. For about the 20th time on here, I must say I'm still disappointed that we didn't buy back that pick from Phoenix and draft Rudy Fernandez. Portland's bought several picks in recent years. 3 million for Rudy was a coup.

[Yakmanev]

isn't a recovering and hopefully improving Darius Miles more valuable long-term than Sam Cassell, who in the pre-season practice and game coverage i've seen, continues to ignore the flow of the offense and just jack it up with no regard for the good of the team ?

so he shoots alot in practice pick up games, and thus is going to kill the team from his 14th or 15th roster spot....

logic leaps are fun!

you know, i saw rondo hit 3 3-pointers in a row during pre season practice this year. clearly he's a 40% 3 point shooter this year. 

That was hardly a logic leap, we have all seen Sam Cassell do exactly what Tenn_Smoothie said he does in meaningful playoff games. And we have seen Doc Rivers move Cassell from the end of the bench to 7th guy in the rotation in those playoff games even when there were better players like House that should have been playing.

I'm guessing, ok hoping, that when PJ decides to comeback after the All-Star break that Cassell is an assistant and his spot is used for PJ

[gar]

disappointing on many levels. Want the guy to be able to come back somewhere; but we really need someone with his size at SF whose name does not sound vaguely like an Italian dish whose primary ingredient is Veal.

[hwangjini_1]

It's a pity,I really wanted Miles to make the roster...

Instead there may be more Scalabrick nights of 2 pts, 1 reb in 18min... 

Stop falsifying the guy's stats. They aren't spectacular, but they aren't that bad. First of all he averaged 10.7 min a night. He scored 1.8 pts, 1.6 boards, .8 assists, and shot 33% from the three point line. Considering he only played in half the games all year and only in spotty stretches it wasn't that bad. The guy showed us the other night in preseason that he is a competent guy on the floor that plays team ball. He's not athletic, not great at any one thing necessarily, but he can shoot the ball from the corner if given the opportunity.

That's a heck of a lot more than Miles was going to give us as well. I wish the guy well, but he physically isn't even close to being there.

Hey man, relax... I've seen many nights of Scal in which he has these stats, i didn't say he averaged that..

And now, how many nights like the NJersey one has he had in the last months? He normally struggles to make baskets and to grab any rebounds. On court, the only valuable thing he is really good at is team defense. Other than that I don't see what he adds to this team.

Edited: just for fun, check his game by game stats from last year:

Some examples of what i mentioned (i am falsifying?)

April 14 vs NY: 2 pts, 2 reb in 19 min
Feb 8 vs Min: 0 pts, 3 reb in 19 min
Jan 31 vs Dal: 0pts, 2 ast in 17 min
Jan 27 vs Orl: 1 pt, 1 reb in 22 min

Most of his nights he scores a basket or two and get a couple rebounds... plus he has missed lots of open look shots last season. You can'r rely on him as a shooter anymore, he lacks confidence.

To his credit though, he seems to play well versus his former team. He played well the other day and had 2 good games against them last season


http://www.nba.com/playerfile/brian_scalabrine/game_by_game_stats.html

boy, scal just cant get any love on this board. what is wrong with you all? dont you recognize consistency when you see it?  that is scal's middle name. you know what you are going to get from him night after night. what more can we ask of him? 

[CoachBo]

isn't a recovering and hopefully improving Darius Miles more valuable long-term than Sam Cassell, who in the pre-season practice and game coverage i've seen, continues to ignore the flow of the offense and just jack it up with no regard for the good of the team ?

so he shoots alot in practice pick up games, and thus is going to kill the team from his 14th or 15th roster spot....

logic leaps are fun!

you know, i saw rondo hit 3 3-pointers in a row during pre season practice this year. clearly he's a 40% 3 point shooter this year. 

That was hardly a logic leap, we have all seen Sam Cassell do exactly what Tenn_Smoothie said he does in meaningful playoff games. And we have seen Doc Rivers move Cassell from the end of the bench to 7th guy in the rotation in those playoff games even when there were better players like House that should have been playing.

I'm guessing, ok hoping, that when PJ decides to comeback after the All-Star break that Cassell is an assistant and his spot is used for PJ

I wouldn't bet on that. Danny will sit a big if PJ comes back.

[no kidding]

Alright, so who's going to sub for Pierce against tall quick shooting guards? Scalabrine's too slow and inept, and Tony Allen and Bill Walker are too short. If it was me, I'd retrieve Brandon Wallace from whatever overseas team he's on, and hand a clipboard to Cassell.

[zerophase]

good cut but sf now is in big trouble. ta, walker and even giddens is undersized.

[Chris]

Alright, so who's going to sub for Pierce against tall quick shooting guards? Scalabrine's too slow and inept, and Tony Allen and Bill Walker are too short. If it was me, I'd retrieve Brandon Wallace from whatever overseas team he's on, and hand a clipboard to Cassell.

Brandon Wallace is not an NBA player.  Height is overrated on the wing.  It is a luxury, not a necessity.  The C's will be fine with the guys they have heightwise, they should be more concerned with whether they are mentally and physically prepared to be NBA rotation players.