Celtics sign Walker

[fairweatherfan06]

Call me confused. 



If Miles makes the team, who do the Celtics waive to sign the vet big man they said they need?   Or do they make a minor trade?

I'm thinking a trade. They'll turn a couple of players in a big man.  Off the top of my head, both OKC and Portland (who may be loath to trade with us if Miles makes 10 games and goes back on their cap) may be very top heavy at the 5 spot.

[arambone]

I think Pruitt might be the first guy to get cut, since Eddie House can back up Rondo, and both Allens can fill in when absolutely necessary.

Wonder where Scal fits in. Miles complicates things, hopefully in a good way.

[jdub1660]

I think Pruitt might be the first guy to get cut, since Eddie House can back up Rondo, and both Allens can fill in when absolutely necessary.

Wonder where Scal fits in. Miles complicates things, hopefully in a good way.

I hope in a good way that you mean forcing Ainge to look into trading Scal. I'd like to keep Pruitt so Ray can stay with working away from the ball to getting open shots. I hope for Darius to make the cut so we can trim our roster into playoff material. No jynxs to be made, but in case 1 of the Big 3 goes out, who fills the void? Tony for Ray. Miles or Giddens for Pierce. Powe for KG. I hate having to be a Scal hater, but he just doesn't fit into the mix IMO. BBD too is lost in that jam. Powe is clearly a talent point or two or three above Davis, so he's safe to me. I wanted Ratliff for that backup C, but he's in Philly(By the way watch out for them this year) and idk who's left. Maybe PJ could come back and play less mins, like just playoff time, and Scal and BBD could be traded somewhere for a draft pick or something?

[Greg]

I think Pruitt might be the first guy to get cut, since Eddie House can back up Rondo, and both Allens can fill in when absolutely necessary.Wonder where Scal fits in. Miles complicates things, hopefully in a good way.

I hope in a good way that you mean forcing Ainge to look into trading Scal. I'd like to keep Pruitt so Ray can stay with working away from the ball to getting open shots. I hope for Darius to make the cut so we can trim our roster into playoff material. No jynxs to be made, but in case 1 of the Big 3 goes out, who fills the void? Tony for Ray. Miles or Giddens for Pierce. Powe for KG. I hate having to be a Scal hater, but he just doesn't fit into the mix IMO. BBD too is lost in that jam. Powe is clearly a talent point or two or three above Davis, so he's safe to me. I wanted Ratliff for that backup C, but he's in Philly(By the way watch out for them this year) and idk who's left. Maybe PJ could come back and play less mins, like just playoff time, and Scal and BBD could be traded somewhere for a draft pick or something?

I wouldn't be so quick to assume that Powe is ahead of Big Baby on the depth chart.  Talent-wise, I think Baby's the better player.  Let's see, he's a better passer, back-to-the-basket scorer, and interior defender.  He plays with emotion and passion, is an equal rebounder and has a smoother jump shot with better range.  Leon Powe is another high energy guy, who works harder than anyone, and plays with a similar emotion.  However, he is a poor facilitator, inside defender,  a very limited range, and it seems like he throws the ball up every time he gets the rock.  Obviously, he is more athletic, but I wouldn't say he's several notches above Big Baby.  I think Big Baby is the better player with a higher ceiling, and he will prove it this year.

[P2]

Call me confused. 

If Miles makes the team, who do the Celtics waive to sign the vet big man they said they need?   Or do they make a minor trade?

Who said we need another big man? If Miles makes the team, we have a 15-man roster.

[Hardcore Fan]

Imagine the leverage Danny will have to trade with Portland 9 games into the season and Darius Miles has gotten minutes in all 9 !  To save 10 mil on their cap, Portland will be awfully eager to trade for then cut DM.  Can you say Greg Oden? LOL !

[wdleehi]

Call me confused. 

If Miles makes the team, who do the Celtics waive to sign the vet big man they said they need?   Or do they make a minor trade?

Who said we need another big man? If Miles makes the team, we have a 15-man roster.

Ainge did.  He said it was the one weakness the roster had. 

[BballTim]

Call me confused. 

If Miles makes the team, who do the Celtics waive to sign the vet big man they said they need?   Or do they make a minor trade?

Who said we need another big man? If Miles makes the team, we have a 15-man roster.

Ainge did.  He said it was the one weakness the roster had. 

  But that was within the context of "if the playoffs started now", right?

[wdleehi]

Call me confused. 

If Miles makes the team, who do the Celtics waive to sign the vet big man they said they need?   Or do they make a minor trade?

Who said we need another big man? If Miles makes the team, we have a 15-man roster.

Ainge did.  He said it was the one weakness the roster had. 

  But that was within the context of "if the playoffs started now", right?

I think so.


I didn't say they had to make the move right away, but they said they wanted to make a move with that position.

[Surferdad]

I think Pruitt might be the first guy to get cut, since Eddie House can back up Rondo, and both Allens can fill in when absolutely necessary.Wonder where Scal fits in. Miles complicates things, hopefully in a good way.

I hope in a good way that you mean forcing Ainge to look into trading Scal. I'd like to keep Pruitt so Ray can stay with working away from the ball to getting open shots. I hope for Darius to make the cut so we can trim our roster into playoff material. No jynxs to be made, but in case 1 of the Big 3 goes out, who fills the void? Tony for Ray. Miles or Giddens for Pierce. Powe for KG. I hate having to be a Scal hater, but he just doesn't fit into the mix IMO. BBD too is lost in that jam. Powe is clearly a talent point or two or three above Davis, so he's safe to me. I wanted Ratliff for that backup C, but he's in Philly(By the way watch out for them this year) and idk who's left. Maybe PJ could come back and play less mins, like just playoff time, and Scal and BBD could be traded somewhere for a draft pick or something?

I wouldn't be so quick to assume that Powe is ahead of Big Baby on the depth chart.  Talent-wise, I think Baby's the better player.  Let's see, he's a better passer, back-to-the-basket scorer, and interior defender. He plays with emotion and passion, is an equal rebounder and has a smoother jump shot with better range.  Leon Powe is another high energy guy, who works harder than anyone, and plays with a similar emotion.  However, he is a poor facilitator, inside defender,  a very limited range, and it seems like he throws the ball up every time he gets the rock.  Obviously, he is more athletic, but I wouldn't say he's several notches above Big Baby.  I think Big Baby is the better player with a higher ceiling, and he will prove it this year.

I agree with most of that, but not all.  Powe is the better rebounder due to his unusually long arms and BBD's short arms.  Right now, Powe is clearly ahead of BBD on the depth chart.  I can't see how anyone can argue with that.  He has earned that by his critical contributions during the season (when KG went down he had multiple double-doubles) and the playoffs.  I predict Powe will emerge this season as a fine sixth man for this team, but to your point, BBD will push him hard and in the long term may surpass Powe (though maybe not with the Celtics unfortunately).

[Reggie's Ghost]

I think Pruitt might be the first guy to get cut, since Eddie House can back up Rondo, and both Allens can fill in when absolutely necessary.Wonder where Scal fits in. Miles complicates things, hopefully in a good way.

I hope in a good way that you mean forcing Ainge to look into trading Scal. I'd like to keep Pruitt so Ray can stay with working away from the ball to getting open shots. I hope for Darius to make the cut so we can trim our roster into playoff material. No jynxs to be made, but in case 1 of the Big 3 goes out, who fills the void? Tony for Ray. Miles or Giddens for Pierce. Powe for KG. I hate having to be a Scal hater, but he just doesn't fit into the mix IMO. BBD too is lost in that jam. Powe is clearly a talent point or two or three above Davis, so he's safe to me. I wanted Ratliff for that backup C, but he's in Philly(By the way watch out for them this year) and idk who's left. Maybe PJ could come back and play less mins, like just playoff time, and Scal and BBD could be traded somewhere for a draft pick or something?

I wouldn't be so quick to assume that Powe is ahead of Big Baby on the depth chart.  Talent-wise, I think Baby's the better player.  Let's see, he's a better passer, back-to-the-basket scorer, and interior defender. He plays with emotion and passion, is an equal rebounder and has a smoother jump shot with better range.  Leon Powe is another high energy guy, who works harder than anyone, and plays with a similar emotion.  However, he is a poor facilitator, inside defender,  a very limited range, and it seems like he throws the ball up every time he gets the rock.  Obviously, he is more athletic, but I wouldn't say he's several notches above Big Baby.  I think Big Baby is the better player with a higher ceiling, and he will prove it this year.

I agree with most of that, but not all.  Powe is the better rebounder due to his unusually long arms and BBD's short arms.  Right now, Powe is clearly ahead of BBD on the depth chart.  I can't see how anyone can argue with that.  He has earned that by his critical contributions during the season (when KG went down he had multiple double-doubles) and the playoffs.  I predict Powe will emerge this season as a fine sixth man for this team, but to your point, BBD will push him hard and in the long term may surpass Powe (though maybe not with the Celtics unfortunately).

Absolutely, Leon was the first big off the bench most of last season, always seemed to take advantage off the time he was on the court, and was our starting big man when Perk was injured in the Playoffs.  Leon showed signs of being far more than just a hard working over-achiever, he can really play.  No doubt about Leon's spot above Baby, who was pretty up and down as most rookies are.  I do think the Cs covet Big Baby though, it would take a big offer for them to move him after his promising first season.

[Greg]

I think Pruitt might be the first guy to get cut, since Eddie House can back up Rondo, and both Allens can fill in when absolutely necessary.Wonder where Scal fits in. Miles complicates things, hopefully in a good way.

I hope in a good way that you mean forcing Ainge to look into trading Scal. I'd like to keep Pruitt so Ray can stay with working away from the ball to getting open shots. I hope for Darius to make the cut so we can trim our roster into playoff material. No jynxs to be made, but in case 1 of the Big 3 goes out, who fills the void? Tony for Ray. Miles or Giddens for Pierce. Powe for KG. I hate having to be a Scal hater, but he just doesn't fit into the mix IMO. BBD too is lost in that jam. Powe is clearly a talent point or two or three above Davis, so he's safe to me. I wanted Ratliff for that backup C, but he's in Philly(By the way watch out for them this year) and idk who's left. Maybe PJ could come back and play less mins, like just playoff time, and Scal and BBD could be traded somewhere for a draft pick or something?

I wouldn't be so quick to assume that Powe is ahead of Big Baby on the depth chart.  Talent-wise, I think Baby's the better player.  Let's see, he's a better passer, back-to-the-basket scorer, and interior defender. He plays with emotion and passion, is an equal rebounder and has a smoother jump shot with better range.  Leon Powe is another high energy guy, who works harder than anyone, and plays with a similar emotion.  However, he is a poor facilitator, inside defender,  a very limited range, and it seems like he throws the ball up every time he gets the rock.  Obviously, he is more athletic, but I wouldn't say he's several notches above Big Baby.  I think Big Baby is the better player with a higher ceiling, and he will prove it this year.

I agree with most of that, but not all.  Powe is the better rebounder due to his unusually long arms and BBD's short arms.  Right now, Powe is clearly ahead of BBD on the depth chart.  I can't see how anyone can argue with that.  He has earned that by his critical contributions during the season (when KG went down he had multiple double-doubles) and the playoffs.  I predict Powe will emerge this season as a fine sixth man for this team, but to your point, BBD will push him hard and in the long term may surpass Powe (though maybe not with the Celtics unfortunately).

Well, you're right.  Right now, Leon Powe is "ahead" of Big Baby.  But training camp can change that.  Powe has excellent hands, and as you said, long arms to get some of those rebounds, but I think we can agree that Big Baby is better at boxing out???  I don't know, for some reason, I'm a huge Big Baby fan, and I can't help that/

[greg683x]

Im not sure how this works, but no one else mentioned it.

we have a 15 man roster, but say Bill Walker, Pruitt, or Giddens got sent to the NBDL, doesnt that open up a roster spot??

[fairweatherfan06]

No it does not

[gar]

Last year Jackie Manuel and Dahntay Jones were brought in for camp and later waived/released. D Miles is not guaranteed. They can waive anyone as long as they are bought out. Anyone know if it is any different for newly signed draft picks (there may be time limit)?