Celticsblog Fantasy Roster Review

[Roy Hobbs]

Eh...  let's keep the charges of racism to a minimum, please.  I think bdm860 was referencing the fact that my starting power forward has at times shown some immaturity and mixed priorities.  I don't think that he was trying to poke fun at anything more than that.

[bucknersrevenge]

C: Brendan Haywood / Kurt Thomas (he will be great against the Duncans of the NBA)
PF: Chris Wilcox / Ronny Turiaf (to beastly guys who will bang bodies all night)
      Carmelo can also play at PF.
SF: Carmelo Anthony / Shane Battier
SG: Ron Artest / Andres Nocioni / CJ Miles  (Artest can be a mismatch physically and still guard top players here)
PG: Rafer Alston / Jannero Pargo (probably play 60/40 in terms of minutes especially if Alston starts jacking up shots)

I feel one of my best defensive lineups without sacrificing offense would be

C: Kurt Thomas
PF: Carmelo Anthony
SF: Shane Battier
SG: Ron Artest
PG: Either can play the passing lanes as Battier is one of the top help defenders.  Nocioni is no slouch on defense too, draws lots of offensive fouls.

Comments?

My first thought is that I don't like playing Artest at the 2. I don't think he's quick enough to chase 2-guards around the perimeter on defense and I think it marginalizes the defensive ability he does have by not playing him at his more natural 3 position.

And as good as Carmelo is while Team USA can get away with playing Melo at PF. The European teams aren't physical enough to make him pay for it in the Olympics. Carmelo is an offensive juggernaut but hes mediocre at best defensively...and that's when he's guarding small forwards. Against NBA physical, talented, long power forwards that could be big trouble. If anything Artest should be at the 4 and Battier at the 2.

You have a ton of talent to build on but I think a trade would be in your best interest to alleviate the logjam and make the pieces on the team fit together better. But that's just my opinion. Truthfully speaking yours is a good problem to have. I wish i had it.

[indeedproceed]

C: Brendan Haywood / Kurt Thomas (he will be great against the Duncans of the NBA)
PF: Chris Wilcox / Ronny Turiaf (to beastly guys who will bang bodies all night)
      Carmelo can also play at PF.
SF: Carmelo Anthony / Shane Battier
SG: Ron Artest / Andres Nocioni / CJ Miles  (Artest can be a mismatch physically and still guard top players here)
PG: Rafer Alston / Jannero Pargo (probably play 60/40 in terms of minutes especially if Alston starts jacking up shots)

I feel one of my best defensive lineups without sacrificing offense would be

C: Kurt Thomas
PF: Carmelo Anthony
SF: Shane Battier
SG: Ron Artest
PG: Either can play the passing lanes as Battier is one of the top help defenders.  Nocioni is no slouch on defense too, draws lots of offensive fouls.

Comments?

Couple things:

!) I think you're overrating Artest's versatility here. 3 years ago, he could guard 5 positions. he hasn't shown a willingness or ability to do that since.
2)Anthony can move down in the FIBA competitions but I don't think you want him playing his matador defense and lackluster rebounding as a 4, even in small ball. Small ball lineups work because the smaller guys are faster smarter and want it more. If the entire regular season were held in beijing I'd say thats fine, but Carmelo isn't the same guy in the NBA.
3) Wilcox and Turiaf are being a little misrepresented for me here. Wilcox is a guy who scores in transition, and who scores garbage points. He's a rebounding monster that doesn't play very good defense. He's just not talented enough to be the main focus of an offensive attack down low. Ditto everything for Wilcox for Turiaf.

[zerophase]

Bibby/Gibson
Bell/Reddick
Jefferson/Moon
Brand/Millsap
Mutombo/O'Bryant

imagine a complete barrage of 3 point shots. no team can play loose on the perimeter, giving brand a lot of space on the inside. its like the finals play with the machine and ray allen.

Yep, it'll be bombs away with your squad.

Unfortunately, Mutombo can't play more than 15 minutes a night, and his backup is completely unproven in the NBA. The opposition can double Brand immediately, and still should be able to defend the perimeter.

Your bench is thin as well. Millsap and, to some degree, Moon are the only players who can play D. I think you need another big man, perhaps two, and a SG who can play defense.

raja bell is one of the best wing defenders in the game... i agree with the need to upgrade at center.

[wdleehi]

C: Brendan Haywood / Kurt Thomas (he will be great against the Duncans of the NBA)
PF: Chris Wilcox / Ronny Turiaf (to beastly guys who will bang bodies all night)
      Carmelo can also play at PF.
SF: Carmelo Anthony / Shane Battier
SG: Ron Artest / Andres Nocioni / CJ Miles  (Artest can be a mismatch physically and still guard top players here)
PG: Rafer Alston / Jannero Pargo (probably play 60/40 in terms of minutes especially if Alston starts jacking up shots)

I feel one of my best defensive lineups without sacrificing offense would be

C: Kurt Thomas
PF: Carmelo Anthony
SF: Shane Battier
SG: Ron Artest
PG: Either can play the passing lanes as Battier is one of the top help defenders.  Nocioni is no slouch on defense too, draws lots of offensive fouls.

Comments?

Couple things:

!) I think you're overrating Artest's versatility here. 3 years ago, he could guard 5 positions. he hasn't shown a willingness or ability to do that since.
2)Anthony can move down in the FIBA competitions but I don't think you want him playing his matador defense and lackluster rebounding as a 4, even in small ball. Small ball lineups work because the smaller guys are faster smarter and want it more. If the entire regular season were held in beijing I'd say thats fine, but Carmelo isn't the same guy in the NBA.
3) Wilcox and Turiaf are being a little misrepresented for me here. Wilcox is a guy who scores in transition, and who scores garbage points. He's a rebounding monster that doesn't play very good defense. He's just not talented enough to be the main focus of an offensive attack down low. Ditto everything for Wilcox for Turiaf.

You need to change 2 of Artest/Battier/Nocioni into a starting SG.  All three are good SFs, but all are mismatched at SG.


Also, Melo will never be on your best defensive team.

[Lucky17]

Bibby/Gibson
Bell/Reddick
Jefferson/Moon
Brand/Millsap
Mutombo/O'Bryant

imagine a complete barrage of 3 point shots. no team can play loose on the perimeter, giving brand a lot of space on the inside. its like the finals play with the machine and ray allen.

Yep, it'll be bombs away with your squad.

Unfortunately, Mutombo can't play more than 15 minutes a night, and his backup is completely unproven in the NBA. The opposition can double Brand immediately, and still should be able to defend the perimeter.

Your bench is thin as well. Millsap and, to some degree, Moon are the only players who can play D. I think you need another big man, perhaps two, and a SG who can play defense.

raja bell is one of the best wing defenders in the game... i agree with the need to upgrade at center.

Apologies, zerophase. I thought it was Charlie Bell, not Raja, who was your starting SG. That certainly changes things.

[BigAlTheFuture]

Change of plans, guys. I've thought about it for awhile now and Chris Paul is now UNAVAILABLE. I will try my best to get enough pieces around Chris Paul so he can win. Good day.

[Roy Hobbs]

Change of plans, guys. I've thought about it for awhile now and Chris Paul is now UNAVAILABLE. I will try my best to get enough pieces around Chris Paul so he can win. Good day.

Smart decision, I think.  I think it's nearly impossible to get equal value for a player of CP3's caliber.

[KCattheStripe]

It would have to be Deron Williams and an All-star (but not a superstar)big man  to be of equal value.

[Redz]

OK, give it to me straight.  I think acquiring Camby gave my team some semblance of legitimacy.  Beasley gives me hope for the future.  Admittedly, I've gone for some knuckleheads here, but I think I should be able to score some points.

C - Marcus Camby, Francisco Elson
PF - Michael Beasley, Craig Smith
SF - John Salmons (a stretch perhaps), Antoine Walker
SG - Jamal Crawford, Ricky Davis
PG - Stephon Marbury, Marcus Williams

Pre-Camby trade I thought I had the worst squad in the league...Now?

[Roy Hobbs]

OK, give it to me straight.  I think acquiring Camby gave my team some semblance of legitimacy.  Beasley gives me hope for the future.  Admittedly, I've gone for some knuckleheads here, but I think I should be able to score some points.

C - Marcus Camby, Francisco Elson
PF - Michael Beasley, Craig Smith
SF - John Salmons (a stretch perhaps), Antoine Walker
SG - Jamal Crawford, Ricky Davis
PG - Stephon Marbury, Marcus Williams

Pre-Camby trade I thought I had the worst squad in the league...Now?

Most entertaining squad in the league.

[Redz]

OK, give it to me straight.  I think acquiring Camby gave my team some semblance of legitimacy.  Beasley gives me hope for the future.  Admittedly, I've gone for some knuckleheads here, but I think I should be able to score some points.

C - Marcus Camby, Francisco Elson
PF - Michael Beasley, Craig Smith
SF - John Salmons (a stretch perhaps), Antoine Walker
SG - Jamal Crawford, Ricky Davis
PG - Stephon Marbury, Marcus Williams

Pre-Camby trade I thought I had the worst squad in the league...Now?

Most entertaining squad in the league.

Sort of LA Clipperish

[Gainesville Celtic]

Change of plans, guys. I've thought about it for awhile now and Chris Paul is now UNAVAILABLE. I will try my best to get enough pieces around Chris Paul so he can win. Good day.

Smart decision, I think.  I think it's nearly impossible to get equal value for a player of CP3's caliber.

Well certainly not with the junk CERTAIN Western Conf. teams were reportedly offering...

[Roy Hobbs]

Change of plans, guys. I've thought about it for awhile now and Chris Paul is now UNAVAILABLE. I will try my best to get enough pieces around Chris Paul so he can win. Good day.

Smart decision, I think.  I think it's nearly impossible to get equal value for a player of CP3's caliber.

Well certainly not with the junk CERTAIN Western Conf. teams were reportedly offering...

Haha.  If I heard accurately about what some of the Eastern Conf. teams were offering, the Western Conference junk was quite a bit better.

[Gainesville Celtic]

C: Brendan Haywood / Kurt Thomas (he will be great against the Duncans of the NBA)
PF: Chris Wilcox / Ronny Turiaf (to beastly guys who will bang bodies all night)
      Carmelo can also play at PF.
SF: Carmelo Anthony / Shane Battier
SG: Ron Artest / Andres Nocioni / CJ Miles  (Artest can be a mismatch physically and still guard top players here)
PG: Rafer Alston / Jannero Pargo (probably play 60/40 in terms of minutes especially if Alston starts jacking up shots)

I feel one of my best defensive lineups without sacrificing offense would be

C: Kurt Thomas
PF: Carmelo Anthony
SF: Shane Battier
SG: Ron Artest
PG: Either can play the passing lanes as Battier is one of the top help defenders.  Nocioni is no slouch on defense too, draws lots of offensive fouls.

Comments?

Couple things:

!) I think you're overrating Artest's versatility here. 3 years ago, he could guard 5 positions. he hasn't shown a willingness or ability to do that since.
2)Anthony can move down in the FIBA competitions but I don't think you want him playing his matador defense and lackluster rebounding as a 4, even in small ball. Small ball lineups work because the smaller guys are faster smarter and want it more. If the entire regular season were held in beijing I'd say thats fine, but Carmelo isn't the same guy in the NBA.
3) Wilcox and Turiaf are being a little misrepresented for me here. Wilcox is a guy who scores in transition, and who scores garbage points. He's a rebounding monster that doesn't play very good defense. He's just not talented enough to be the main focus of an offensive attack down low. Ditto everything for Wilcox for Turiaf.

You need to change 2 of Artest/Battier/Nocioni into a starting SG.  All three are good SFs, but all are mismatched at SG.


Also, Melo will never be on your best defensive team.

Well and based on the rules of the game, you also just lost Pargo to Moscow...