Pierce is not better than Kobe! Period!

[indeedproceed]

You know, in all of this, bloggers have been freaking out about how Paul Pierce had the audacity to call himself the best player in the world. Even if it was said by the 2008 Finals MVP. Even if it was taken out of context. It doesn't matter. We're all sitting here talkin about Paul Pierce. Its terrible


What about Kobe? Is no one here thinking about how this makes Kobe feel? Is no one going to ask Kobe for a comment? Do we not care about Kobe Bryant? Isn't he annointed by basketball people as the best in world? Shouldn't we be consoling Kobe? Shouldn't we care whether or no Paul Pierce has hurt his feelings? Or his precious inflated ego?

Well I care. I care about Kobe Bryant. I care about him because I know HE, HE cares about him. Thats why I'm going to do this. I'm going to play this violin for Kobe, and everyone out there that is outraged that Paul Pierce, Finals MVP, had the gaul, the nerve...the sheer SPUNK to call himself the world's best basketball player.

I'm going to play this violin.



Sorry, long day at work.

[GreenPride]

You know, in all of this, bloggers have been freaking out about how Paul Pierce had the audacity to call himself the best player in the world. Even if it was said by the 2008 Finals MVP. Even if it was taken out of context. It doesn't matter. We're all sitting here talkin about Paul Pierce. Its terrible


What about Kobe? Is no one here thinking about how this makes Kobe feel? Is no one going to ask Kobe for a comment? Do we not care about Kobe Bryant? Isn't he annointed by basketball people as the best in world? Shouldn't we be consoling Kobe? Shouldn't we care whether or no Paul Pierce has hurt his feelings? Or his precious inflated ego?

Well I care. I care about Kobe Bryant. I care about him because I know HE, HE cares about him. Thats why I'm going to do this. I'm going to play this violin for Kobe, and everyone out there that is outraged that Paul Pierce, Finals MVP, had the gaul, the nerve...the sheer SPUNK to call himself the world's best basketball player.

I'm going to play this violin.



Sorry, long day at work.

i think you need another 400 tommy points for that post!  well said!

[Chris]

I could easily be here commenting on Pierce throwing up gang signs and calling him a thug but I realize how ridiculous that argument is.  Should that tarnish what Pierce has accomplished?  No!  We all know how media generated those reports are. 

But, back to Pierce, he is no Kobe.  Just like I could never say that Kobe is MJ, Pierce is no Kobe.  For the exact same reasons.  You can say whatever you want about Kobe but Pierce has done this for one year.  He was awesome.  I respected his grit and heart.  But just as much as Shaq helped Kobe, KG and Allen helped Pierce.  Pierce has just done this once.   

Actually, I would argue that the reason Pierce is not Kobe is exactly the opposite reason Kobe is not MJ.

Pierce has the killer instinct, and team first attitude that lifted MJ above the rest (not as great as MJ...but moreso than Kobe), but he simply does not have the physical tools that Kobe and Jordan had.

Kobe has very comparable skills and physical ability as Jordan, but he simply lacks the mental toughness that makes MJ one of the greatest, if not the greatest ever.

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...you can't directly compare players like this. players all have different talents that make them stand out.

kobe is more athletic than pierce. he's a better shooter. faster.
pierce is much stronger. consistant. better teacher and team player? he beat kobe in the finals, which includes many 1 on 1 defensive stops such as blocks.

kobe's a better player, but pierce won the championship. end of story.

[crownsy]

You know, in all of this, bloggers have been freaking out about how Paul Pierce had the audacity to call himself the best player in the world. Even if it was said by the 2008 Finals MVP. Even if it was taken out of context. It doesn't matter. We're all sitting here talkin about Paul Pierce. Its terrible


What about Kobe? Is no one here thinking about how this makes Kobe feel? Is no one going to ask Kobe for a comment? Do we not care about Kobe Bryant? Isn't he annointed by basketball people as the best in world? Shouldn't we be consoling Kobe? Shouldn't we care whether or no Paul Pierce has hurt his feelings? Or his precious inflated ego?

Well I care. I care about Kobe Bryant. I care about him because I know HE, HE cares about him. Thats why I'm going to do this. I'm going to play this violin for Kobe, and everyone out there that is outraged that Paul Pierce, Finals MVP, had the gaul, the nerve...the sheer SPUNK to call himself the world's best basketball player.

I'm going to play this violin.



Sorry, long day at work.

i wish i could give multiple TP's, or barring that, make it so you get an auto 5-star recruit.

that made me laugh out loud, people were looking at me weird at work. well played good sir!

[D Dub]

I think Kobe is a better player than Paul.  He's certainly more talented.

I think Paul outperformed Kobe in the playoffs, but Kobe has more of a track record of doing more with less.

I would much rather have Paul on my team, though.  He's a better person, and a better teammate.

right, this was what i was saying in my post, i understand and 100% agree with pierce being the better teamate and person, and wouldn't want kobe on my team for any reason, but the ones im refering to with blinders are those that argue pierce is better than kobe on a SKILL WISE level(which some do, and is ludacris, Kobe is more talanted, it doesn't make him better)

Skill wise, Paul is a better:
- defender
- passer
- rebounder
- team leader

And he is much more offensively efficient than Kobe, rarley taking upwards of 25 shots in a game.

Kobe is an athletic freak with a killer jumpshot and a flair for the dramatic.  Its a sign of the times, to conclude the better player to be the one who makes the spectacular plays on SportsCenter -- as oppose the player with the all-around game who evevated his team over Kobe's.

Both players in their prime met in the Finals and Paul was unstopable, while Kobe was pedestrian.

For the Harlem Globetrotters - you take Kobe Bryant --- For an NBA team - you take the better all around basketball player, Paul Pierce.  

[GreenPride]

The only way to sum up this argument is to quote what Pierce said after the finals:

BLOOD, SWEAT & TEARS, BABY!  BLOOD, SWEAT & TEARS!

[crownsy]

I think Kobe is a better player than Paul.  He's certainly more talented.

I think Paul outperformed Kobe in the playoffs, but Kobe has more of a track record of doing more with less.

I would much rather have Paul on my team, though.  He's a better person, and a better teammate.

 
right, this was what i was saying in my post, i understand and 100% agree with pierce being the better teamate and person, and wouldn't want kobe on my team for any reason, but the ones im refering to with blinders are those that argue pierce is better than kobe on a SKILL WISE level(which some do, and is ludacris, Kobe is more talanted, it doesn't make him better)

Skill wise, Paul is a better:
- defender
- passer
- rebounder
- team leader

And he is much more offensively efficient than Kobe, rarley taking upwards of 25 shots in a game.

Kobe is an athletic freak with a killer jumpshot and a flair for the dramatic.  Its a sign of the times, to conclude the better player to be the one who makes the spectacular plays on SportsCenter -- as oppose the player with the all-around game who evevated his team over Kobe's.

Both players in their prime met in the Finals and Paul was unstopable, while Kobe was pedestrian.

For the Harlem Globetrotters - you take Kobe Bryant --- For an NBA team - you take the better all around basketball player, Paul Pierce.  

come on now.

he isn't a better defender, Kobe is a canadite year in and out for DOY, and deservedly so. Paul, while he's shown this year he can be an outstanding defender, was hammered on these boards and in general before KG suited up for being a lazy defender. Lets not try to revise history to make ourselves look smarter. before KG came, i saw paul as an elite scorer who could play good defense when motivated, lets not act like he's been great for the last 5 years.

He is a better rebounder, he isn't a better passer, though that might be a wash.

Team leader isn't a physical skill, and i said he was better at it in my post.

Kobe was pedestriain because we play incredible defense, and we rocked them with it. that has nothing to do with who is the better player talent and skill wise, unless you count ray allen and james posey as physical assets of paul pierce.

And with your last point, even my green tinted lenses crack, as i said, paul is the better guy for a team, but to compare kobe to a globetrotter skill wise, get over yourself.

honestly people, its ok to be proud of a guy being a better basketball player from a team aspect, which he absolutly is, and to love a guy for it, as i do, paul's been my favroite player since he got me into the celtics all those years ago, but don't lie to yourself because you don't want to see facts.

Kobe is the better indivdual player

Paul is by far the better team player.

Since basketball is a team game, that makes paul more valuable to me.

[MrsNumba17]

Pierce is better!

I'm so glad Pierce isn't a whiney [edited]
like Kobe. He's (kobe) not a great teammate.
He's a disgrace to society!

Kobe will never be on the same level as Pierce.
Because Pierce is superhuman and Kobe is inhuman.

I'm disgusted that there is even a comparison on this site. Kobe can go back to the pits of hell where he came from!



Edit: No profanity
-IP

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[Shiz1111]

You know, in all of this, bloggers have been freaking out about how Paul Pierce had the audacity to call himself the best player in the world. Even if it was said by the 2008 Finals MVP. Even if it was taken out of context. It doesn't matter. We're all sitting here talkin about Paul Pierce. Its terrible


What about Kobe? Is no one here thinking about how this makes Kobe feel? Is no one going to ask Kobe for a comment? Do we not care about Kobe Bryant? Isn't he annointed by basketball people as the best in world? Shouldn't we be consoling Kobe? Shouldn't we care whether or no Paul Pierce has hurt his feelings? Or his precious inflated ego?

Well I care. I care about Kobe Bryant. I care about him because I know HE, HE cares about him. Thats why I'm going to do this. I'm going to play this violin for Kobe, and everyone out there that is outraged that Paul Pierce, Finals MVP, had the gaul, the nerve...the sheer SPUNK to call himself the world's best basketball player.

I'm going to play this violin.



Sorry, long day at work.

Why oh why would you apologize for that?? That was HILARIOUS. Stinks that you've had a long day but you've just topped of mine pretty nicely. TP for you 

[Birdbrain]

I think Kobe is a better player than Paul.  He's certainly more talented.

I think Paul outperformed Kobe in the playoffs, but Kobe has more of a track record of doing more with less.

I would much rather have Paul on my team, though.  He's a better person, and a better teammate.

right, this was what i was saying in my post, i understand and 100% agree with pierce being the better teamate and person, and wouldn't want kobe on my team for any reason, but the ones im refering to with blinders are those that argue pierce is better than kobe on a SKILL WISE level(which some do, and is ludacris, Kobe is more talanted, it doesn't make him better)

Skill wise, Paul is a better:
- defender
- passer
- rebounder
- team leader

And he is much more offensively efficient than Kobe, rarley taking upwards of 25 shots in a game.

Kobe is an athletic freak with a killer jumpshot and a flair for the dramatic.  Its a sign of the times, to conclude the better player to be the one who makes the spectacular plays on SportsCenter -- as oppose the player with the all-around game who evevated his team over Kobe's.

Both players in their prime met in the Finals and Paul was unstopable, while Kobe was pedestrian.

For the Harlem Globetrotters - you take Kobe Bryant --- For an NBA team - you take the better all around basketball player, Paul Pierce. 

Exactly, both skills wise and human being wise he's above Mr. Bryant.  This isn't some homer concept.  He's a better all around player.  Just because some of you can't rationalize that with all the publicity Kobe gets doesn't make it any less true.  The better player plays in Boston.  And please save the he made playoffs as some milestone because every team Kobe was on was better than every team Paul played on prior to this year.  The guy never made it out of the 1st round without Shaq before this season.  He's OVERRATED.

[cordobes]

I'm still in disbelief someone cared enough about Paul's pretty standard statement to register in a Celtics messages board just to say that Kobe is better. Kobe fans are scary. They behave like a cult. Creepy bunch, I must say.

IMO, Kobe is clearly the better player. Not better than LeBron, though; and I'd rather build a franchise around someone like Duncan than Kobe - and it's not even close. On the top of that, Kobe is a morally challenged individual.

[crownsy]

I think Kobe is a better player than Paul.  He's certainly more talented.

I think Paul outperformed Kobe in the playoffs, but Kobe has more of a track record of doing more with less.

I would much rather have Paul on my team, though.  He's a better person, and a better teammate.

right, this was what i was saying in my post, i understand and 100% agree with pierce being the better teamate and person, and wouldn't want kobe on my team for any reason, but the ones im refering to with blinders are those that argue pierce is better than kobe on a SKILL WISE level(which some do, and is ludacris, Kobe is more talanted, it doesn't make him better)

Skill wise, Paul is a better:
- defender
- passer
- rebounder
- team leader

And he is much more offensively efficient than Kobe, rarley taking upwards of 25 shots in a game.

Kobe is an athletic freak with a killer jumpshot and a flair for the dramatic.  Its a sign of the times, to conclude the better player to be the one who makes the spectacular plays on SportsCenter -- as oppose the player with the all-around game who evevated his team over Kobe's.

Both players in their prime met in the Finals and Paul was unstopable, while Kobe was pedestrian.

For the Harlem Globetrotters - you take Kobe Bryant --- For an NBA team - you take the better all around basketball player, Paul Pierce. 

Exactly, both skills wise and human being wise he's above Mr. Bryant.  This isn't some homer concept.  He's a better all around player.  Just because some of you can't rationalize that with all the publicity Kobe gets doesn't make it any less true.  The better player plays in Boston.  And please save the he made playoffs as some milestone because every team Kobe was on was better than every team Paul played on prior to this year.  The guy never made it out of the 1st round without Shaq before this season.  He's OVERRATED.

sigh, i give up.  some people are TOO blind even for my green glasses.

Again, paul is the better team basketball player, by far, and I would rather re-enact the disappearing pencil trick from the dark night (as the thug) then have him within 10 miles of a celtics uniform, but i still find this petty need by some people to tear every other non-celtic player down hilarious. I mean, if i put up a dwight howard is better than kendrick perkins" thread, i'm quite sure i could get one or two people to jump on board 


your right, i don't know how kobe made the NBA, clearly a stern level conspiracy.

[cdif911]

Who is this Kobe character everybody here keeps talking about???