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Can Pruitt guard shooting guards?
« on: July 24, 2008, 02:25:45 PM »

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He's listed at 6'4, but weighs only 170 lbs. Is he strong enough to guard shooting guards? I'm wondering whether he and House see any time on the floor together next year...

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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2008, 02:31:05 PM »

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i think him and eddie will defintly see some time together, if on an iregular basis. i think the celtics perfect scenario would be:

rondo-pruitt-house
allen-house-Pruitt

for depth at the gaurds, with tony being factored in when not playing SF, which from danny's comments i think they want him to do a bit.

not sure how it will work though, all depends on what we see out of gabe.
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Re: Can Pruitt guard shooting guards?
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2008, 02:41:31 PM »

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I don't expect Pruitt to play next season. Hopefully he'll be kept around the team (not NBDL) but I see him firmly as the third string point guard and not getting time as a shooting guard. I'd be surprised if he gets much time next year.

I don't know if he can defend shooting guards. Haven't seen him defend shooting guards. I'm doubtful because his frame doesn't look that strong but down the road he could be able to.

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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2008, 02:48:21 PM »

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I don't expect Pruitt to play next season. Hopefully he'll be kept around the team (not NBDL) but I see him firmly as the third string point guard and not getting time as a shooting guard. I'd be surprised if he gets much time next year.

I don't know if he can defend shooting guards. Haven't seen him defend shooting guards. I'm doubtful because his frame doesn't look that strong but down the road he could be able to.

I'd be shocked if what your saying here comes to pass, givin how much there playing him up in the press from inside the celtics organization and how high they've been on him all last year. I think he's going to get a chance to be the backup PG with some burn at SG.

This i belive is why they resigned eddie. They know that if gabe gets in trouble at point, they can just have eddie do it. this also explains what to me was a lackluster intrest in the backup PG market.

I'm not saying what you are suggesting won't happen, espically if gabe doesn't live up to thier expectations, but no way is he just a 2 minute a night guy next eyar to start. They think he can crack the roatation from all accounts, and i expect them to give him his chance. We'll see what he does with it. i'm catiously optomistic he can give us 5-10 minutes a night off the bench.
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2008, 02:59:51 PM »

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He's listed at 6'4, but weighs only 170 lbs. Is he strong enough to guard shooting guards? I'm wondering whether he and House see any time on the floor together next year...

A BMI calculator I just googled puts the ideal BMI for that size at 179 lbs.  I think the questions is WHICH shooting guards. Larry Hughes, maybe. Tracy McGrady, I'll say no. click HERE

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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2008, 03:02:15 PM »

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I don't expect Pruitt to play next season. Hopefully he'll be kept around the team (not NBDL) but I see him firmly as the third string point guard and not getting time as a shooting guard. I'd be surprised if he gets much time next year.

I don't know if he can defend shooting guards. Haven't seen him defend shooting guards. I'm doubtful because his frame doesn't look that strong but down the road he could be able to.

I'd be shocked if what your saying here comes to pass, givin how much there playing him up in the press from inside the celtics organization and how high they've been on him all last year. I think he's going to get a chance to be the backup PG with some burn at SG.

This i belive is why they resigned eddie. They know that if gabe gets in trouble at point, they can just have eddie do it. this also explains what to me was a lackluster intrest in the backup PG market.

I'm not saying what you are suggesting won't happen, espically if gabe doesn't live up to thier expectations, but no way is he just a 2 minute a night guy next eyar to start. They think he can crack the roatation from all accounts, and i expect them to give him his chance. We'll see what he does with it. i'm catiously optomistic he can give us 5-10 minutes a night off the bench.

Would you expect them to downplay him the media and say he sucks?  Of course not.  They're trying to play him up as to drive up his value in case he's ever needed in part of a trade.  That said, I think there's very little evidence to say anything about him.  He did well in the D-League, but so do a lot of players who can't cut it in the NBA.  While Danny's had good luck in the second round, when it comes down to it, most second rounders don't stick in the NBA. 

If he's going to play, he's going to need to play very well.  As it is, he's going to have to fight very hard for minutes as all of our point guards and "swingmen" are undersized.  It'd be one thing if we re-signed Posey and let Allen go, but as it is now, Allen's better off playing the 2 than the 3.  Factor that in with Ray's minutes, and I don't see a heck of a lot of opportunity for Pruitt. 

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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2008, 03:04:51 PM »

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He's listed at 6'4, but weighs only 170 lbs. Is he strong enough to guard shooting guards? I'm wondering whether he and House see any time on the floor together next year...

A BMI calculator I just googled puts the ideal BMI for that size at 179 lbs.  I think the questions is WHICH shooting guards. Larry Hughes, maybe. Tracy McGrady, I'll say no. click HERE

I'd agree, though again i think he's going to get a chance to take the 5-10 minutes  night backing up rondo.

I think there trying to combine the best parts of eddie at backup PG (shooting) with pruitt's better handles. I'm not saying pruitt is iverson or anything, but he can use his hieght to shield the ball.

we'll see what happens, should be intersting.
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2008, 03:10:05 PM »

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I don't expect Pruitt to play next season. Hopefully he'll be kept around the team (not NBDL) but I see him firmly as the third string point guard and not getting time as a shooting guard. I'd be surprised if he gets much time next year.

I don't know if he can defend shooting guards. Haven't seen him defend shooting guards. I'm doubtful because his frame doesn't look that strong but down the road he could be able to.

I'd be shocked if what your saying here comes to pass, givin how much there playing him up in the press from inside the celtics organization and how high they've been on him all last year. I think he's going to get a chance to be the backup PG with some burn at SG.

This i belive is why they resigned eddie. They know that if gabe gets in trouble at point, they can just have eddie do it. this also explains what to me was a lackluster intrest in the backup PG market.

I'm not saying what you are suggesting won't happen, espically if gabe doesn't live up to thier expectations, but no way is he just a 2 minute a night guy next eyar to start. They think he can crack the roatation from all accounts, and i expect them to give him his chance. We'll see what he does with it. i'm catiously optomistic he can give us 5-10 minutes a night off the bench.

Would you expect them to downplay him the media and say he sucks?  Of course not.  They're trying to play him up as to drive up his value in case he's ever needed in part of a trade.  That said, I think there's very little evidence to say anything about him.  He did well in the D-League, but so do a lot of players who can't cut it in the NBA.  While Danny's had good luck in the second round, when it comes down to it, most second rounders don't stick in the NBA. 

If he's going to play, he's going to need to play very well.  As it is, he's going to have to fight very hard for minutes as all of our point guards and "swingmen" are undersized.  It'd be one thing if we re-signed Posey and let Allen go, but as it is now, Allen's better off playing the 2 than the 3.  Factor that in with Ray's minutes, and I don't see a heck of a lot of opportunity for Pruitt. 

no, but i would expect they wouldn't bring his name up everytime people ask them abotu the depth chart. I think they think he can play, and i fully expect them to give him a shot this year to crack the rotation.

Listen, im not saying they think he's going to suddenly be a 6th man, but i think to say, as who did, that there going to keep him around to ride the end of the bench isn't true. He may end up there, or he may not. but i fully expect him to get the chance to earn some minutes.

What will he do with that chance? who knows, as you've pointed out, he's had very little burn at the nba level, and of course some guys look liek stars in the NBDL and then flame out. But you have to throw the kid in the pool at some point, and i just think that the organization thinks he's ready, and are going to role with him for a bit.

To me, this is why thier was ZERO serious intrest in a true back up PG. They don't see it as a need. They have house and TA, which they clearly think is good enough to take the backup minutes if pruitt doesn't work out.

I'm not calling him a success right off the bat, but on the flip side, i don't get people that are calling him a failure because we haven't seen him at the NBA level yet. at some point, everyone has no experiance.

Time for gabe to have his trial by fire, just like everyone else.
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2008, 03:24:26 PM »

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I just don't see where he's going to get these minutes.  If he's going to get any, he's going to have to clearly beat out House or Allen to do it.  Rondo's young and very good, I can't see him getting less than 32 mpg, and he'll probably get closer to 35-36.  Maybe it's just me, but I don't see House and Pruitt "splitting" 12-18 mpg. 

Now between the 2 and 3, there should be about 24 mpg in backup minutes.  But if you're going to give Tony most of his minutes backing up the 3 and give some of the 2 minutes to House or Pruitt, you're going to be very small. 

We'll see.  Pruitt may have his day, I just don't see logistically how it happens.  And if Ainge really expected Pruitt to come through, I think he might have gone with an even cheaper backup 1 than House. 

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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2008, 03:28:54 PM »

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I just don't see where he's going to get these minutes.  If he's going to get any, he's going to have to clearly beat out House or Allen to do it.  Rondo's young and very good, I can't see him getting less than 32 mpg, and he'll probably get closer to 35-36.  Maybe it's just me, but I don't see House and Pruitt "splitting" 12-18 mpg. 

Now between the 2 and 3, there should be about 24 mpg in backup minutes.  But if you're going to give Tony most of his minutes backing up the 3 and give some of the 2 minutes to House or Pruitt, you're going to be very small. 

We'll see.  Pruitt may have his day, I just don't see logistically how it happens.  And if Ainge really expected Pruitt to come through, I think he might have gone with an even cheaper backup 1 than House. 

see, i think danny see house more as a back up 2 who can play the point if needed. he's a good signing because he can play both.

We'll see though, be fun to watch what happens.
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2008, 03:30:47 PM »

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The only way we'll know if he can guard 2s, 1s, or anything is if Giddens is not signed.

50/50 that Pruitt is even on the roster in 08-09.  Contract or not.  I doubt we'll ever find out who he can guard.

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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2008, 03:33:08 PM »

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I just don't see where he's going to get these minutes.  If he's going to get any, he's going to have to clearly beat out House or Allen to do it.  Rondo's young and very good, I can't see him getting less than 32 mpg, and he'll probably get closer to 35-36.  Maybe it's just me, but I don't see House and Pruitt "splitting" 12-18 mpg. 

Now between the 2 and 3, there should be about 24 mpg in backup minutes.  But if you're going to give Tony most of his minutes backing up the 3 and give some of the 2 minutes to House or Pruitt, you're going to be very small. 

We'll see.  Pruitt may have his day, I just don't see logistically how it happens.  And if Ainge really expected Pruitt to come through, I think he might have gone with an even cheaper backup 1 than House. 

  I'd expect Tony to play most of the backup sf and a lot of the backup sg, with Giddens/Walker getting occasional minutes. But if Pruitt's on the roster he's going to have to get a fair amount of backup pg minutes. Not as many as House, but enough that he'd be able to go during the playoffs if necessary.

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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2008, 03:34:19 PM »

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I just don't see where he's going to get these minutes.  If he's going to get any, he's going to have to clearly beat out House or Allen to do it.  Rondo's young and very good, I can't see him getting less than 32 mpg, and he'll probably get closer to 35-36.  Maybe it's just me, but I don't see House and Pruitt "splitting" 12-18 mpg. 

Now between the 2 and 3, there should be about 24 mpg in backup minutes.  But if you're going to give Tony most of his minutes backing up the 3 and give some of the 2 minutes to House or Pruitt, you're going to be very small. 

We'll see.  Pruitt may have his day, I just don't see logistically how it happens.  And if Ainge really expected Pruitt to come through, I think he might have gone with an even cheaper backup 1 than House. 

see, i think danny see house more as a back up 2 who can play the point if needed. he's a good signing because he can play both.

When has Danny stated that? Danny always talks about House as a point. He just says other players will help him when there is pressure.

Then again, I'm not much of a mind reader.

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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2008, 03:36:55 PM »

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Pruitt plays the lanes really well, but needs to improve on his man to man defense.  If he's given minutes you'll see him intercept a lot of balls.  Would have been a great free safety. 

He's also not going to usually be guarding the first string two guard.  Can he defend?  Yes.

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I don't expect Pruitt to play next season. Hopefully he'll be kept around the team (not NBDL) but I see him firmly as the third string point guard and not getting time as a shooting guard. I'd be surprised if he gets much time next year.

I don't know if he can defend shooting guards. Haven't seen him defend shooting guards. I'm doubtful because his frame doesn't look that strong but down the road he could be able to.

I'm going to have to disagree with this as well mmmkayyyy.  I think we are going to see a whole lot of Pruitt in fact.  Not sure he'll be big enough to defend shooting guards this year though.  Still needs to be put on a few pounds. 
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