I see now what dannys plan was, lineup is set

[Triboy16]

Not that i'am an insider or anything but anyone with some common sense would figure out by the tony allen and eddie house resigning that his plans were

Plan #1 Sign posey, sign a big man, replace giddens and walker for tony allen and rely on pruitt as backup point

Plan #2 If posey is gone,sign a big man, bring back tony allen, eddie house, Use pruitt as another sg who can shoot, use pruitt has another pg who can bring up the ball, and give giddens and bill walker every chance in the world to supplement the loss of posey

I really understand better why he chose players like giddens and walker(looks liek can play sf or sg) for insurance purposes now

Its a sigh of relief that both tony allen and house will be back and we can't forget we still have big baby and powe to finish the bench unit. We will have to see what obryant(pj brown replacement), pruitt(cassell replacement), giddens and walker(posey replacement) can do

Signings are officially done

C- Perkins backup- O'bryant
Pf- KG     backup- Powe/davis
SF- Pierce backup- Tony allen/Giddens
SG- Allen  backup- Tony Allen/Pruitt
PG- Rondo  backup- House/ Pruitt

[Birdbrain]

House was always coming back because of the need of some experience at the backup PG.  Posey chose GREENER pastures which made bringing back Allen more of need.  Although to be honest for as little as he signed for I would have brought Allen back anyway.  His stock can only go up if he stays healthy.

[The Walker Wiggle]

No, Ainge has around $3 million of available MLE money to fill our last roster spot with a back-up center that can guard opposing small forwards.

[wdleehi]

It better not be set. 


Still need an actual 2nd C. 


Still need a larger backup 3. 


And still want a backup PG that does more then shoot. 

[guava_wrench]

House was always coming back because of the need of some experience at the backup PG.  Posey chose GREENER pastures which made bringing back Allen more of need.  Although to be honest for as little as he signed for I would have brought Allen back anyway.  His stock can only go up if he stays healthy.

If Posey signed with us, House wasn't coming back. He wouldn't get the money.

If Lue signed with us, House would still be questionable. Not necessarily cuz Danny preferred Lue, but because Danny preferred a minimum deal.

[Birdbrain]

It better not be set. 


Still need an actual 2nd C. 


Still need a larger backup 3. 


And still want a backup PG that does more then shoot. 

The roster is set except for the signing of the rookies IMO.

O'Bryant and BBD will get those minutes.  Not optimal but, I think the Danny and Doc believe that Perkins minutes should go up to about 30 which means even less time for the backup C.

They don't need another wing.  They lost Posey so they will make do. 

They won't be carrying 4 PGs. 

[wdleehi]

It better not be set. 


Still need an actual 2nd C. 


Still need a larger backup 3. 


And still want a backup PG that does more then shoot. 

The roster is set except for the signing of the rookies IMO.

O'Bryant and BBD will get those minutes.  Not optimal but, I think the Danny and Doc believe that Perkins minutes should go up to about 30 which means even less time for the backup C.

They don't need another wing.  They lost Posey so they will make do. 

They won't be carrying 4 PGs. 

Then the team is doing a terrible job getting ready for next year. 


They need real experience off the bench. 

The first three of House, TA and Powe only scares the Celtics. 

[Birdbrain]

House was always coming back because of the need of some experience at the backup PG.  Posey chose GREENER pastures which made bringing back Allen more of need.  Although to be honest for as little as he signed for I would have brought Allen back anyway.  His stock can only go up if he stays healthy.

If Posey signed with us, House wasn't coming back. He wouldn't get the money.

If Lue signed with us, House would still be questionable. Not necessarily cuz Danny preferred Lue, but because Danny preferred a minimum deal.

I don't believe that House and Posey deals had anything to do with each other and just because they used a portion of the MLE to sign him doesn't mean anything.  House helps in 2 ways at backup PG and instant offense off the bench.  He was in my mind coming back either way.  Of course none of this means that they didn't want Posey more but, I believed Danny when he said he wanted them all to come back under the right circumstances.

[Birdbrain]

It better not be set. 


Still need an actual 2nd C. 


Still need a larger backup 3. 


And still want a backup PG that does more then shoot. 

The roster is set except for the signing of the rookies IMO.

O'Bryant and BBD will get those minutes.  Not optimal but, I think the Danny and Doc believe that Perkins minutes should go up to about 30 which means even less time for the backup C.

They don't need another wing.  They lost Posey so they will make do. 

They won't be carrying 4 PGs. 

Then the team is doing a terrible job getting ready for next year. 


They need real experience off the bench. 

The first three of House, TA and Powe only scares the Celtics. 

They lost Posey?? You might be slightly exaggerating.  Might be.

You have no idea how any of the players will have progressed by this time next year. 

No offense but, I couldn't follow that comment.

And to be honest you should be the last person stating that they need to sign another PG.  Haven't we gone over this before.  House is sufficient enough.

[kozlodoev]

It better not be set. 


Still need an actual 2nd C. 


Still need a larger backup 3. 


And still want a backup PG that does more then shoot. 

And we still need LeBron to solidify our bench, right?

[Triboy16]

Sign more players?!? What is the point of drafting players and paying them money so you can just put them on the bench??

We have 4 solid bench guys in house, allen, powe , davis and its time to give obryant,pruitt, giddens and perhaps walker a chance

Danny should save the 3 million dollar. Also in the free agent market right now there isn't just many decent players out there that perhaps giddens won't be able to do. Give the rookies a chance and close to the trade deadline there will be plenty of vets then we can trade for , worst case

[wdleehi]

The point of drafting guy late in the draft is that at some point in the future, they will become players that can help you win. 


If they do it right form the start, it is a bonus.



This is still a title contending team.  There are players out there with experience that can help this team win and are within the teams budget. 


Rookies have to earn a spot on a title team.  They are not given a spot. 



I have little fear though.  Ainge knows there things.  I have little doubt that this is not the finished product. 

[action781]

It better not be set. 


Still need an actual 2nd C. 


Still need a larger backup 3. 


And still want a backup PG that does more then shoot. 

The roster is set except for the signing of the rookies IMO.

O'Bryant and BBD will get those minutes.  Not optimal but, I think the Danny and Doc believe that Perkins minutes should go up to about 30 which means even less time for the backup C.

They don't need another wing.  They lost Posey so they will make do. 

They won't be carrying 4 PGs. 

Then the team is doing a terrible job getting ready for next year. 


They need real experience off the bench. 

The first three of House, TA and Powe only scares the Celtics. 

What was the team's biggest knock last preseason?  No depth off the bench.  Did Danny panic and make a desperation move?  No, he played things out and addressed the needs midseason for minimum cost.  I say we trust this and let him do it again.  We know what we are getting from House and should be happy with it.  We still don't know how good BBD, Powe, TA, Giddens, and Walker can be; none of them have reached their ceilings.  BBD and Powe both scored 20+ points in big games against powerhouse teams, so lets let them show how consistent they can be with consistent minutes before we make any desperation moves.  Then if there are still holes to fill midseason, lets address them then.

[wdleehi]

It better not be set. 


Still need an actual 2nd C. 


Still need a larger backup 3. 


And still want a backup PG that does more then shoot. 

The roster is set except for the signing of the rookies IMO.

O'Bryant and BBD will get those minutes.  Not optimal but, I think the Danny and Doc believe that Perkins minutes should go up to about 30 which means even less time for the backup C.

They don't need another wing.  They lost Posey so they will make do. 

They won't be carrying 4 PGs. 

Then the team is doing a terrible job getting ready for next year. 


They need real experience off the bench. 

The first three of House, TA and Powe only scares the Celtics. 

What was the team's biggest knock last preseason?  No depth off the bench.  Did Danny panic and make a desperation move?  No, he played things out and addressed the needs midseason for minimum cost.  I say we trust this and let him do it again.  We know what we are getting from House and should be happy with it.  We still don't know how good BBD, Powe, TA, Giddens, and Walker can be; none of them have reached their ceilings.  BBD and Powe both scored 20+ points in big games against powerhouse teams, so lets let them show how consistent they can be with consistent minutes before we make any desperation moves.  Then if there are still holes to fill midseason, lets address them then.

There is no panic or desperation here. 

The Celtics are not done yet. 


That's all. 

[Old Hondo]

Not that i'am an insider or anything but anyone with some common sense would figure out by the tony allen and eddie house resigning that his plans were

Plan #1 Sign posey, sign a big man, replace giddens and walker for tony allen and rely on pruitt as backup point

Plan #2 If posey is gone,sign a big man, bring back tony allen, eddie house, Use pruitt as another sg who can shoot, use pruitt has another pg who can bring up the ball, and give giddens and bill walker every chance in the world to supplement the loss of posey

I really understand better why he chose players like giddens and walker(looks liek can play sf or sg) for insurance purposes now

Its a sigh of relief that both tony allen and house will be back and we can't forget we still have big baby and powe to finish the bench unit. We will have to see what obryant(pj brown replacement), pruitt(cassell replacement), giddens and walker(posey replacement) can do

Signings are officially done

C- Perkins backup- O'bryant
Pf- KG     backup- Powe/davis
SF- Pierce backup- Tony allen/Giddens
SG- Allen  backup- Tony Allen/Pruitt
PG- Rondo  backup- House/ Pruitt

  Am I correct that House and T. Allen's combined payout for 4 seasons of service (2 years apiece) is approximately what Posey gets in each of the 4 years of his new deal? This is much more cost effective spending to round out the bench with Tony at least being part of the solution to the puzzle of replacing Posey's important role. The additions of Giddens and Walker and expanded roles for both Posey and Big Baby (all for relatively cost effective payouts) can be part of the rest of what it takes to replace Big Game James.

Posey's veteran leadership now falls more on the newly crowned champion Big 3 (and House) but, in the long run, the franchise will be better off by confirming which of these many young and promising talents (Tony Allen and O'Bryant included) can actually produce consistent with their hoped for upsides.

Rondo, Perkins, Jefferson and Delonte West were to greater degrees previous manifestations of how actually playing more will vindicate Ainge's acumen for evaluating talent. Allen (before his knee injury) was on the cusp of reaching this next level of accomplishment. There is no reason that at least some of the other youngsters (including T. Allen himself) won't similarly improve with added playing time and responsibility.