josh childress

[MLG5]

with posey gone, and assuming the hawks sign josh smith and are financially unwilling to match any offers for josh childress, what do people think about the c's making a move on him? J-chill (a potentially great nickname) could very well fill, better than any other free agents i believe, left by posey. moreover, j-chill is considerably younger than posey and will have a chance to mature with a vet squad (unlike the hawks) and will establish a formidable young core of players, in addition to rondo and perk.

frankly, i don't know anyone else on the market worth the mid level exception for what the c's are looking for.

[wdleehi]

Need them to sign Smith for a large amount first.


Unfortunately, there is no other teams left to bid against. 

[MrBlonde]

It is highly doubtful Atlanta would not match a mid-level exception offer no matter what.

[Mr October]

Childress at the MLE isn't what Boston needs. I'd rather see them split it among more polished vets. Childress is a garbage man, a very good garbage man. In the very least I'd rather get a defensive wing that can shoot, like Evans or Ross.

[Michael Anthony]

Childress at the MLE isn't what Boston needs. I'd rather see them split it among more polished vets. Childress is a garbage man, a very good garbage man. In the very least I'd rather get a defensive wing that can shoot, like Evans or Ross.

Is that an honest assesment? Really? Childress stiffled Pierce in the Atlanta series, shot .367 from behind the arc and .571 from the field last season, and had a 17.84 PER.

[johnnyrondo]

Is giving Childress 5 yrs at like 34 million smarter than offering Posey 3 yrs at like 18 mil?  The C's aren't spending much more money this offseason. Ainge has already said he's through with the big men, that he's not signing another. he's waiting to see what pg is not signed so he can sign to a 1 yr vet minimum contact, so it gets partly subsidized by the league. They'll sign a wing for small money and yrs...someone who runs out of suitors.  What did you think Wyc was going to pay to keep the team together and repeat? He's trying to buy the LA Kings. Repeating isn't a priority.

[boscel33]

I make a play for Childress. 

His numbers were not "garbage" numbers by any stretch seeing that he played almost 30 minutes per game. 

Maybe some type of a sign and trade deal, Scal and a second.

I'm not saying that Scal is worth anything, might provide some vet leadership on a very young team though.

[Mr October]

Childress at the MLE isn't what Boston needs. I'd rather see them split it among more polished vets. Childress is a garbage man, a very good garbage man. In the very least I'd rather get a defensive wing that can shoot, like Evans or Ross.

Is that an honest assesment? Really? Childress stiffled Pierce in the Atlanta series, shot .367 from behind the arc and .571 from the field last season, and had a 17.84 PER.

Don't get caught up in picking and choosing misleading numbers/stats. That is a very honest assessment. In the Atlanta-Boston series, the vast majority of Childress's offense was garbage points. If he shot jumpers, he bricked them.

His defense was good, yes. I didn't comment on that. However remember that the C's were in training camp mode, after having not played competetive NBA basketball for a month before then.

Also that 3 point percentage is based on 60 attempts. And then he missed both attempts in the playoffs.

Josh Childress is a very good garbage man on offense.

[Mr October]

I make a play for Childress. 

His numbers were not "garbage" numbers by any stretch seeing that he played almost 30 minutes per game. 

Maybe some type of a sign and trade deal, Scal and a second.

I'm not saying that Scal is worth anything, might provide some vet leadership on a very young team though.

OK, i need to explain. He isn't a garbage stat man in the sense of putting up numbers in garbage time.

He doesn't get plays run for him. He doesn't create offense 1 on 1 with any consistency, nor shoot jumpers with any consistency. He scores mostly on lay ups, dunks, put backs, dump offs from team mates.

Thats what I meant by garbage offense. Sorry about any confusion.

[Green Mountain]

It's irrelevant since you are not prying Childress away from Atlanta with an MLE offer. We don't have the financial wherewithal this year.

[sk7326]

It's irrelevant since you are not prying Childress away from Atlanta with an MLE offer. We don't have the financial wherewithal this year.

Childress is a lot like Shawn Marion in some ways.  Very little gets run for him as Mr October points out.  His game seems ugly because he has a shot you would not teach anyone, but it is a very effective, efficient game.  Plus he is still young.  He is a darn good rotation player if the bumbling Hawks ownership lets him walk.

[Steve Weinman]

I make a play for Childress. 

His numbers were not "garbage" numbers by any stretch seeing that he played almost 30 minutes per game. 

Maybe some type of a sign and trade deal, Scal and a second.

I'm not saying that Scal is worth anything, might provide some vet leadership on a very young team though.

OK, i need to explain. He isn't a garbage stat man in the sense of putting up numbers in garbage time.

He doesn't get plays run for him. He doesn't create offense 1 on 1 with any consistency, nor shoot jumpers with any consistency. He scores mostly on lay ups, dunks, put backs, dump offs from team mates.

Thats what I meant by garbage offense. Sorry about any confusion.

This is a plus in my book with regard to Childress.  While the bench is in need of more offensive punch in its own right, I don't necessarily need a team of guys who demand the ball.  That Childress can get his points without being 'featured' is a nice bonus to the fact that he is good on the glass (excellent offensive rebounder) and a versatile defender.

If he is attainable, I'm all for it -- but as several have referenced, prying him away from Atlanta could be difficult with just the MLE at our disposal.

-sw

[steve]

I'm all for it.  Could Atlanta sign Smith to a big contract and still afford to pay childress? 

If not I think the best thing to do would be to offer him the MLE right now and force them to make a decsion with Smith. 

Atlanta gave us trouble especially Childress.  I'm all for breaking up that team.   

[Mr October]

I make a play for Childress. 

His numbers were not "garbage" numbers by any stretch seeing that he played almost 30 minutes per game. 

Maybe some type of a sign and trade deal, Scal and a second.

I'm not saying that Scal is worth anything, might provide some vet leadership on a very young team though.

OK, i need to explain. He isn't a garbage stat man in the sense of putting up numbers in garbage time.

He doesn't get plays run for him. He doesn't create offense 1 on 1 with any consistency, nor shoot jumpers with any consistency. He scores mostly on lay ups, dunks, put backs, dump offs from team mates.

Thats what I meant by garbage offense. Sorry about any confusion.

This is a plus in my book with regard to Childress.  While the bench is in need of more offensive punch in its own right, I don't necessarily need a team of guys who demand the ball.  That Childress can get his points without being 'featured' is a nice bonus to the fact that he is good on the glass (excellent offensive rebounder) and a versatile defender.

If he is attainable, I'm all for it -- but as several have referenced, prying him away from Atlanta could be difficult with just the MLE at our disposal.

-sw

Agreed. He'd be a great 7th or 8th man. The C's just don't have that luxury. They need to  fill out a suddenly very inexperienced bench with 2 more wiley skilled vets using the MLE if needed.

[johnnyrondo]

I make a play for Childress. 

His numbers were not "garbage" numbers by any stretch seeing that he played almost 30 minutes per game. 

Maybe some type of a sign and trade deal, Scal and a second.

I'm not saying that Scal is worth anything, might provide some vet leadership on a very young team though.

I love the "Scal and second" trade offers. that's still negative value. Scal and a first might get you Josh Childress's hair pick. might