Why aren't we considering these guys at point?

[ManUp]

Lindsey Hunter
Jason Williams
Eddie House


I want them in that order.

[Eeyore III]

White Chocolate: he signs for a year, cheap, to jack up his value again.  He's got plenty left to backup Rajin' Rajon.

Regarding Livingston (Is there something about that name that causes knee injuries?):  Last I read, he still requires 90 minutes of physical therapy just to step on the court for non-contact drills.  It's sad, but he's damaged goods, like the Dukie/Bulls PG Williams a few years back.  

[PRIDE]

I don't understand why people want all these guys that wont give us anything more than Eddie House did last season. Sign Eddie House, make him dribble down the court all summer and call it good. House is a proven veteran and he provides more than all these other guys ever will. House also is part of the chemistry of our veteran locker room.

[Bankshot]

I don't understand why people want all these guys that wont give us anything more than Eddie House did last season. Sign Eddie House, make him dribble down the court all summer and call it good. House is a proven veteran and he provides more than all these other guys ever will. House also is part of the chemistry of our veteran locker room.

Agreed. House is my first preference.

Boykins is too small and can't defend
Lindsey Hunter isn't really good anymore
Andre Owens - who?
Smush Parker - LOL
Jason Williams - Now this is a guy I wouldn't mind having
Telfair - been there done that
Armstrong - No thanks.

[jgod213]

Let's get KEYON DOOLING!!!!He would be the perfect fit!

I also believe House proved his worth throught the season - and particularly in the playoffs, but if we can't retain him or nab livingston, my preference would be Dooling, since he would bring some of the energy that House takes with him...

I'd say J-Will and Dooling are polar opposites - except for that fact that they both can't really shoot all that well.  J-Will will run the offense well and provide a little veteran leadership on the 2nd unit.  Dooling will give you a slasher widh the ability to make a lot of hustle and enrgy plays on both ends, but won't always make the right decisions with the ball.

[paintitgreen]

Our backup point guard has to be able to shoot and handle the ball - I don't think any of those guys can shoot. Hunter especially - he's a terrible shooter but still puts up shots. I thought he looked horrible when we played Detroit, to the point that I'd prefer Cassell to Hunter.

I like Dooling, because he has the best defense by far of the other guys listed, but if/after we sign Posey, we won't have the money it'll take to get him out of Orlando. I'd offer House a 2 year deal starting at 1.8 mil (his non-Bird rights), maybe go to three years. I think he'd take that - I don't think demand for a 30 year old, 6 foot shooter off the bench will be particularly high, even if he did just help us win a championship. Maybe Philly will show interest, but I don't think they'd go any higher than the Celtics would.

[Lucky17]

What about Carlos Arroyo? Young veteran, probably wouldn't break the bank.

[scalabrine44mvp]

ok... so hopefully SAM I AM will not be back in green next year. With that being said we probably should sign 2 PG because i personally dont believe pruitt is ready. The couple blowouts he did play in last year he looked nervous and couldnt control the ball. My take on this is sign EDDIE, im sure he would play here for less because he loves it here. Then we need one more PG that can handle the ball and run our offense. I believe that if healthy that PG would be J-will. J-Will and House splitting back up duties.. then if J-Will does have health problems we still have pruitt.

[Green Mountain]

Dooling would be the best option at PG. Orlando won't be resigning him since they signed Pietrus. Once Posey goes the way of Elton Brand we can split the MLE between Dooling and a back up Center.

Jason Williams? This guy is breaking down physically and hasn't played a lick of defense in this life.

I love Eddie house but the man can't dribble. Backup pg's need to be able to dribble.

[timepiece33]

Dooling would be the best option at PG. Orlando won't be resigning him since they signed Pietrus. Once Posey goes the way of Elton Brand we can split the MLE between Dooling and a back up Center.

How do you propose to split the MLE to get better than Posey, Anderson (LLE), and a minimum wage PG?

Just curious.   It's nice to say, but I don't see the incremental benefit this year for doing this. 

[Green Mountain]

Dooling would be the best option at PG. Orlando won't be resigning him since they signed Pietrus. Once Posey goes the way of Elton Brand we can split the MLE between Dooling and a back up Center.

How do you propose to split the MLE to get better than Posey, Anderson (LLE), and a minimum wage PG?

Just curious.   It's nice to say, but I don't see the incremental benefit this year for doing this. 

Your not going to get Posey for less than the full MLE at 4-5 years either. I think it's likely that he's not coming back. Therefore I'd like us to turn to Dooling at back up point and a solid veteran like Kurt Thomas (unlikely) or Francisco Elson  to back up Perk. I'd take House back if he'll play for the minimum agains as well. I just don't want him to be my primary back up at PG.

[timepiece33]

You aren't going to get Kurt Thomas and Kenyon Dooling by splitting the MLE, so that is irrelevant discussion just like the Corey Maggette pipe dream.

Francisco Elson, Kenyon Dooling, and Quentin Ross/Matt Barnes (the type of SF/SG type at the LLE)

is not better than

Chris Anderson (C at LLE), Sam Cassell/Jason Williams/Tyrone Lue (a minimum PG), and James Posey.   

I don't mind the concept of giving Posey 4 years at this point, because this team has a limited window.   

[ManUp]

I love Eddie house but the man can't dribble. Backup pg's need to be able to dribble.

Exactly, it's the glaring weakness that everyone has decided to over look.

House has been nothing more than passable at the point all year. When he's out there opposing teams put on full court pressure and he usually has to pass it up to Ray or PP to handle the dribbling for him. The team also ends up starting there sets later than they'd like to.

I actually feel that Doc was smart not playing house for a good portion of the play-offs. Farmar, Hunter, and Law could all have easily picked houses pockets regularly, in my opinion.

[YouveBeenPierced]

I want to keep Eddie because it puts us in a great position to draft Little House in the 2020 draft. Kid schools on Dana Barros like its his job.

[Green Mountain]

You aren't going to get Kurt Thomas and Kenyon Dooling by splitting the MLE, so that is irrelevant discussion just like the Corey Maggette pipe dream.

Francisco Elson, Kenyon Dooling, and Quentin Ross/Matt Barnes (the type of SF/SG type at the LLE)

is not better than

Chris Anderson (C at LLE), Sam Cassell/Jason Williams/Tyrone Lue (a minimum PG), and James Posey.   

I don't mind the concept of giving Posey 4 years at this point, because this team has a limited window.   

Backup PG was the teams most glaring weakness during the playoffs. Dooling is the best available backup. Cassell/Williams/ and Lue are past their sell by dates. Dooling has the size that Rajon lacks and is better defensively than any of the 3 above have ever dreamed of being. I'm not opposed to signing Posey but I think his timetable and the teams timetable are not in sync. I'll be one of the first celebrate if he resigns with us. I just think Danny has drawn a line in the sand that Posey and his agent don't want to cross. In the end he'll go to a team who will give him the full MLE for 5 years. You know someone is going to do it just to take him away from us. Frankly I'd be fine with Anderson or Elson as my back up. Neither is going to break the bank.