Why aren't we considering these guys at point?

[jgod213]

We all know the the Celts have shown at least moderate interest in Shaun Livingston and are probably in contact with Dooling and Arrojo's reps, but there seems to be a large pool of free agent, unrestricted PG's that no one has really mentioned - they are as follows:

Earl Boykins - certainly is a defensive liability, but he can bring the ball up the court and run an offense, and is also a career 35% shooter from 3.  Made $350,000 last season.

Lindsay Hunter - we all know what this guy can do, he brings serious defense to the table and can provide ballhandling and shooting.  Made $2.2 million last season.

Andre Owens - not a household name, but he is 27 (some experience) and can shoot the ball a bit.  Probably a last resort but a guy that excelled in a role where he played about 12 min/game.  Made $680,000 last year.

Smush Parker - had a down year with the Clips but is known for his defense and has experience being THE MAN at point.  Made 181,320 last season.

Jason Williams - Kind of fell off the map last season, but still has a very solid skill set.  Probably not a starting PG anymore.  Made nearly $9 mill last season.

Sebastian Telfair - Big dissapointment in his 1 year here, but at least solidified as an NBA player in Minni last season, averaging 9/6.  Not sure how things ended between him and management, but could fill a need here.  Made $2.5 mill last season.

Darrell Armstrong - Getting VERY old, but still has the shooting ability and know-how to be effective in limited minutes. $770,000 last season.

Any guys on this list you would like to see in green? guys you want nothing to do with? Personally, i think Jason WIlliams would be a great get if possible - same for Lindsay Hunter.

[wdleehi]

Boykins - not a PG.  Just a really small player

Hnuter - would be a good fit

Owens - not good enough

Parker - not enough defense

Williams - could work if he could stay healthy

Telfair - just say no

Armstrong - to old.  supposedly clashed with Doc in Orlando

[PRIDE]

Hunter loves the Pistons. I don't think he'll be leaving anytime soon.

Our team is about defense, so I don't see Boykins coming here. Lue either.

The only guy on your list that interests me at all is Telfair. I'd take him over any guy on that list. He had a decent season last year but I wouldn't give him more money than Eddie House.

With that said, sign Eddie House and get the team back together.

[Gainesville Celtic]

the only guys on that list that i could even fathom in Green are Jason Williams and Telfair --- but they will likely sign with ORL and MIN respectively.

Boykins is too small.
Hunter will stay in DET -- but i wouldn't want him anyways -- to be a coach
Owens -- Pruitt is prob. better
Parker -- overrated and that's not saying much

i guess Armstrong would be a good fit -- he and Doc have actually made up.

[Gainesville Celtic]

With that said, sign Eddie House and get the team back together.

Amen!

TP.

[Rondo2287]

Im telling you if you want a backup pointguard Livingston is your man.  Plays solid D.  because of his height and quickness he can guard multiple positions.  Great at running the fast break.  Tremendous upside but he injury scares the hell out of me. 

[ma11l]

I think I'm going to be in the minority with this one but I would like to see us give Smush a chance.  The kid has a lot of talent, he just hasn't brought it all to the table as a pro.  If he's ever going to do it it would be with KG and Ray as your teammates. 


He doesn't play a lot of defense, but neither did Cassell.  I see all of these players as upgrades over the signing of Sam, and we won the title with him.  I think we have some room to take a chance on someone who could have a high ceiling if everything turned out well.

[cordobes]

Parker -- overrated and that's not saying much

This made me curious: who overrates Smush? Besides some GMs and Head-Coaches, I guess? I've always believed it's pretty much consensual that he's a total scrub...

My preferences:

Eddie House
Bones

[Celtic_E]

The only name that interests me on that list is Jason Williams. At this stage of his career, I think he could back up Rondo for 15-20 mins per game thus keeping Rondo fresh for the playoffs. If he would sign for the veteran minimum, well and good. But I highly doubt we could get him for the veteran minimum. He would probably be gunning for part or whole of the MLE if he were to come here.

[yupitsme]

Let's get KEYON DOOLING!!!!He would be the perfect fit!

[Who]

Eddie House is the player I want to be the backup point guard and Gabe Pruitt is the player I want to be the third string point guard.

Of those players listed:
Hunter - likely retiring to his front office job in Detroit. If he plays he'll stay with the Pistons.
Armstrong - Very good 3rd string guard and good insurance for our backup but not a primary backup anymore due to his decline/age.
Jason Williams - Awful defender. Horribly inconsistent on the other end. He's not good enough, he's game has fallen off hugely since they won the title. He's close to the Damon Stoudamire realm right now. The man was dropped as the starting point guard for 20% of the season with no other point guard worth his salt on the roster. He just isn't the player he used to be and he doesn't offer enough anymore.
Owens - Not good enough to be the primary backup on a title contender. Could be a third stringer on a mediocre to poor ball club
Smush Parker - Doesn't put any effort in. Used to be a good defensive player, now he's a disgrace defensively. Nothing happened to his athleticism, he just let his game slip hugely through a lack of caring.
Boykins - Too small. Bad defender. Unnecessary complication.

[Chris]

Hunter would be great...but I don't see him leaving Detroit.

Williams may be my top choice for backup PG.  He is the best playmaker available, and we still have Pruitt to step into the Eddie House role of designated shooter/3rd string.

Boykins is too small, and not a PG...Armstrong is too old...Parker is just an ass...and I just don't think Telfair would fit in here, because he is still developing.

[fairweatherfan06]

I think Livingston at 1 or 2 years makes the most sense.  It gives Livingston a chance to come along on a contender more slowly from his injury and Pruitt a chance to compete for minutes at backup PG, and the end of next season we decide between the two or neither.  I guess Dooling is not bad either.

[PRIDE]

I've heard Livingston can practice with full contact yet. He hasnt been able to play hard for a few seasons now. I doubt he is the answer at PG and would provide more than Eddie House would.

[kozlodoev]

We all know the the Celts have shown at least moderate interest in Shaun Livingston and are probably in contact with Dooling and Arrojo's reps, but there seems to be a large pool of free agent, unrestricted PG's that no one has really mentioned - they are as follows:

Earl Boykins - certainly is a defensive liability, but he can bring the ball up the court and run an offense, and is also a career 35% shooter from 3.  Made $350,000 last season.

Lindsay Hunter - we all know what this guy can do, he brings serious defense to the table and can provide ballhandling and shooting.  Made $2.2 million last season.

Andre Owens - not a household name, but he is 27 (some experience) and can shoot the ball a bit.  Probably a last resort but a guy that excelled in a role where he played about 12 min/game.  Made $680,000 last year.

Smush Parker - had a down year with the Clips but is known for his defense and has experience being THE MAN at point.  Made 181,320 last season.

Jason Williams - Kind of fell off the map last season, but still has a very solid skill set.  Probably not a starting PG anymore.  Made nearly $9 mill last season.

Sebastian Telfair - Big dissapointment in his 1 year here, but at least solidified as an NBA player in Minni last season, averaging 9/6.  Not sure how things ended between him and management, but could fill a need here.  Made $2.5 mill last season.

Darrell Armstrong - Getting VERY old, but still has the shooting ability and know-how to be effective in limited minutes. $770,000 last season.

Any guys on this list you would like to see in green? guys you want nothing to do with? Personally, i think Jason WIlliams would be a great get if possible - same for Lindsay Hunter.

Because Eddie House is a better option than anyone on this list who is cheap enough for us to sign.