What if we lose out on Maggette and Posey? Ricky Davis?

[P2]

No Barnes.  He fit well in that Nelson offense.  He was a nobody in the league before that.



Pietrus is the guy I want right now.  A good defender on a bad defensive team.  Could be even better in the Boston scheme.



Really don't want Anderson.   Especially for more then the min.  This guy has shown nothing since he returned from being tossed out the league for two years.   There are guys that are better fits out there. 

Well, how many chances did he get? None. Scott didn't use him because they had a set rotation, but he was their best big off the bench.

[Triboy16]

like who then at pf/center who fit with us better(who francisco elson?, no thank you)??  anderson has a bad history but i think he has cleaned up. The guy is aggressive and can play given the right opportunity. He reminds me of leon powe but with at least 3 more inches in height

Barnes is a hustle player and can play defense(he can learn). Maybe he is not in the same level as posey or even pietrius, but he hustles and dives after loose balls etc. (prob one of the top criterias to be a good defender)

one huge knock against pietrius is that he can't shoot consistantly either. If you compare last year stats between him and barnes , they are almost identical. For that reason i think barnes is a better value

[nickagneta]

If Posey doesn't come back aboard I love both guys with Pietrus being my first choice. Heck, Pietrus might be a better option than Posey long term considering his age.

I like Barnes game as well and would be comfortable with either or both if Big Game doesn't return.

[wdleehi]

like who then at pf/center who fit with us better(who francisco elson?, no thank you)??  anderson has a bad history but i think he has cleaned up. The guy is aggressive and can play given the right opportunity. He reminds me of leon powe but with at least 3 more inches in height

Barnes is a hustle player and can play defense(he can learn). Maybe he is not in the same level as posey or even pietrius, but he hustles and dives after loose balls etc. (prob one of the top criterias to be a good defender)

one huge knock against pietrius is that he can't shoot consistantly either. If you compare last year stats between him and barnes , they are almost identical. For that reason i think barnes is a better value

Elson (played the same role for the Spurs when they won their title)
Kurt Thomas
Zo
Skinner

[Who]

Pietrus is a great option. He's a superior one-on-one defender than Posey already. He's a very good role player in the league. Good fall back option.

Barnes isn't good enough to be the primary backup on the wings. Not without significantly strengthening other areas of the bench. I'd rather bring back Tony Allen for the role than sign Barnes. If Barnes were the secondary backup like Tony was last season to Posey, I'd be happy with Barnes.

[P2]

Really, if Posey wants the full MLE for 4 or more years, I would straight up forget about him if I were Ainge. Maggette for 4 or more years at the full MLE totally makes sense, but if Maggette doesn't choose us, Pietrus and Barnes would be good alternatives. However, Barnes isn't known to be one of the best defenders, and Pietrus is a little short.

[P2]

Now that I think about it again: Pietrus might be a little short (he really looks only 2 inches taller head-to-head with Baron Davis, who is 6'2.5" barefoot), but he is young, a good defender, can hit the three, steals and even blocks well for his size. He could also play the 2, so our rotation at the 2 and 3 would be PP/Ray/Pietrus with a little Giddens. If I were to choose between Posey and Pietrus at the full MLE for 4 or more years, I would choose Pietrus.

[Triboy16]

Let me add, Quinton Ross as another guy we could think about. Haven't seen much of him but he was a decent defender with barely any offense

i'd put him third in the list

[P2]

By the way, in some article in the Globe or Herald I read that Ainge already has a backup plan if Posey and Maggette don't work out.

[powefan]

The problem with Pietrus is his basketball IQ.  He will make a highlight dunk and at times plays very well-- he is very  athletic.  He found himself on the bench over and over because he tends to make very poor decisions on the court.  GS fans were excited about this  guy a few years ago when he was raw-- unfortunately his mistakes didn't seem to get better over time.  That being said, he is a great one-on-one defender and at times plays out of his head.

[indeedproceed]

like who then at pf/center who fit with us better(who francisco elson?, no thank you)??  anderson has a bad history but i think he has cleaned up. The guy is aggressive and can play given the right opportunity. He reminds me of leon powe but with at least 3 more inches in height

Barnes is a hustle player and can play defense(he can learn). Maybe he is not in the same level as posey or even pietrius, but he hustles and dives after loose balls etc. (prob one of the top criterias to be a good defender)

one huge knock against pietrius is that he can't shoot consistantly either. If you compare last year stats between him and barnes , they are almost identical. For that reason i think barnes is a better value

Elson (played the same role for the Spurs when they won their title)
Kurt Thomas
Zo
Skinner

We should keep an eye out to see what becomes of Raef LaFrentz this season. He'd be alright for us now that he's reasonably healthy.

[Triboy16]

thats the thing with posey is that he plays under control and doesn't try to be the hero making dumb mistakes. I haven't seen pietrius alot but there doesn't seem to be alot of interest in him or rumors team vying hard to get him. Could be like you said , he lacks the intellegence could be the biggest reason

He is still an alternative but barnes is looking better by the second for me

[RebusRankin]

I like the idea of Ross if we can't get Posey or Maggette.

[BrickJames]

I'd rather Barnes than Pietrius.  Barnes is like Posey - a hard nosed  "intangibles" guy.  Very high BBIQ, great team defender, good at getting under people's skin.

If not Posey, sign me up for Barnes, if neither, then maybe we see more Scal?

[BudweiserCeltic]

I'd rather Barnes than Pietrius.  Barnes is like Posey - a hard nosed  "intangibles" guy.  Very high BBIQ, great team defender, good at getting under people's skin.

If not Posey, sign me up for Barnes, if neither, then maybe we see more Scal?

With Barnes we can also fit Tony if needed. With Pietrus, we could need to find another suitable wing (unless we want to rely on rookies) with little to offer.

I see Barnes being such a great fit in our system. He plays with a ton of energy and as you say, good team defender. It's an often overlooked fact because he played for Golden State, but GS had some really good defenders in there... they simply lacked the interior defense to anchor the defense.

Decent 3-point shooter, and quite athletic and finisher around the basket.