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Re: Maggette says he could be willing to take pay cut to come to Boston
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2008, 09:09:57 AM »

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maybe if we could convince him that once allen's contract will be up he'll get payed he can handle such a big paycut...or we could pay him in gold rings...imagine him on the team...we could call them "the big four"
this is a good way to lose your next five first round draft picks.

Re: Maggette says he could be willing to take pay cut to come to Boston
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2008, 09:12:35 AM »

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not that it was a good suggestion, but how does that lose us draft picks?
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Re: Maggette says he could be willing to take pay cut to come to Boston
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2008, 09:23:05 AM »

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Check out the contract situation with regards to Joe Smith and Kevin McHale...

Can't make promises about future contracts.

Re: Maggette says he could be willing to take pay cut to come to Boston
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2008, 09:25:56 AM »

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not that it was a good suggestion, but how does that lose us draft picks?

Because it's a circumvention of salary cap rules - promising that will sign him for bigger money after the first contract, for example. Vide McHale + Joe Smith affair. Retiring draft picks is a penalty.

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I still think Maggette will take his paycut in Orlando or San Antonio for two reasons:

1) He'll be a starter with a bigger role

2) Fiscal reasons. Florida and Texas are two fairly conservative states, with better tax structures. He's already taking a paycut, so is probably not willing to  take another one because of the voracious government of Taxachusetts.
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Re: Maggette says he could be willing to take pay cut to come to Boston
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2008, 09:34:45 AM »

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Maggette would be great im sure the injury bug will start catching up with Pierce and Allen and to have a guy like Maggette to slide right in would be huge.I also believe Maggette can play the 4 spot he is athletic enough and give us more flexability off the bench. With that being said out of respect and loyalty I would rather have Posey back.But I have a feeling Posey won't be back just a bad feeling.

Re: Maggette says he could be willing to take pay cut to come to Boston
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2008, 09:38:51 AM »

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Interesting quote coming from a guy like that.  Danny is doing a good job so far is playing up the chance to play for a winner.  He isn't offering the good money to get the players, but he has a valuable chip that many don't, a great chance at a ring next year. 


If he is willing to take the pay cut that Posey isn't that I say bring him aboard.  Obviously Posey is still our Plan A though.  The offer is out, the ball is in his court.
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Re: Maggette says he could be willing to take pay cut to come to Boston
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2008, 09:39:35 AM »

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not that it was a good suggestion, but how does that lose us draft picks?

Because it's a circumvention of salary cap rules - promising that will sign him for bigger money after the first contract, for example. Vide McHale + Joe Smith affair.

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I still think Maggette will take his paycut in Orlando or San Antonio for two reasons:

1) He'll be a starter with a bigger role

2) Fiscal reasons. Florida and Texas are two fairly conservative states, with better tax structures. He's already taking a paycut, so is probably not willing to  take another one because of the voracious government of Taxachusetts.

I think the tax reasons are absolutly correct.  $5.5 M goes a lot farther in Florida, for example, where there is no state income tax.  Also, both FLorida and Texas are warm weather states, which helps them attract free agents.  On the other hand, Boston has that buzz right now.

I am not sure Maggette is a starter on San Antonio.  SA could well be envisioning Manu as the 2-gaurd starter next year with Maggette providing scoring off the bench.  Also, if Maggette wants to win, the eastern conference is a lot more appealing.  

With Orlando, Magette would probably start.  But Orlando has not had the same sucess in recent years.  You can make a case that with Maggette, Orlando is a strong team.  However, if you were Corey, and you wanted to win, which team has a better chance next year, Boston or Orlando?  I'd take Boston 10 times out of 10.

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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2008, 09:50:07 AM »

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5 million is a lot of money anywhere.
I'd go for the ring, because you won't be
remembered for making a lot of money.
You'll be remembered for the ring and
how you earned it.
I'm sure Corey has enough money to last
him a couple of years or so  ::)

Re: Maggette says he could be willing to take pay cut to come to Boston
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2008, 09:52:48 AM »

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5 million is a lot of money anywhere.
I'd go for the ring, because you won't be
remembered for making a lot of money.
You'll be remembered for the ring and
how you earned it.
I'm sure Corey has enough money to last
him a couple of years or so  ::)

I'm sure that the Big 3 could give him a couple of millions under the table.

Re: Maggette says he could be willing to take pay cut to come to Boston
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2008, 09:53:10 AM »

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I can see the Spurs because he can start instead of Bowen.But Orlando? besides off the court benefits which I understand were does he fit in with Lewis and Turka? Unless Turk comes off the bench  Corey would have a similar role with them as well. I think playing in the easteren conference with our big three gives him the best chance at a ring no doubt in my mind.But Spurs might be a better fit for him because he is much better than Bowen.

Re: Maggette says he could be willing to take pay cut to come to Boston
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2008, 09:56:58 AM »

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I can see the Spurs because he can start instead of Bowen.But Orlando? besides off the court benefits which I understand were does he fit in with Lewis and Turka? Unless Turk comes off the bench  Corey would have a similar role with them as well. I think playing in the easteren conference with our big three gives him the best chance at a ring no doubt in my mind.But Spurs might be a better fit for him because he is much better than Bowen.


Bowen will take minutes from him in the playoffs because he is one of the best defenders in the league.  This is exactly why most of us would still rather have Posey if he'll take our offer.  We magnified the point this year that defense wins championships.  Maggette is going to have to improve on that end of the court. 
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Re: Maggette says he could be willing to take pay cut to come to Boston
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2008, 09:59:12 AM »

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not that it was a good suggestion, but how does that lose us draft picks?

Because it's a circumvention of salary cap rules - promising that will sign him for bigger money after the first contract, for example. Vide McHale + Joe Smith affair. Retiring draft picks is a penalty.

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I still think Maggette will take his paycut in Orlando or San Antonio for two reasons:

1) He'll be a starter with a bigger role

2) Fiscal reasons. Florida and Texas are two fairly conservative states, with better tax structures. He's already taking a paycut, so is probably not willing to  take another one because of the voracious government of Taxachusetts.
Compared to CA, Mass is a libertarian Utopia!

But TP for pointing out the advantage of a no-tax state when everyone can offer the same thing.

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« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2008, 10:03:05 AM »

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5 million is a lot of money anywhere.
I'd go for the ring, because you won't be
remembered for making a lot of money.
You'll be remembered for the ring and
how you earned it.
I'm sure Corey has enough money to last
him a couple of years or so  ::)
Every fan says this, but few guys in the professional leagues ever do it. My understanding is that until you actually have the opportunity to walk away from the money, its easy to say you would. Plenty of rich people end up broke, and many players have little chance beyond the game to make anything close to this kind of money. Maximizing earnings is a safe bet. And - it's not like playing in SA (who wins every other year, right?) or - ORL which is an up and coming young team is going to the Clippers :)

Re: Maggette says he could be willing to take pay cut to come to Boston
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2008, 10:07:33 AM »

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I can see the Spurs because he can start instead of Bowen.But Orlando? besides off the court benefits which I understand were does he fit in with Lewis and Turka? Unless Turk comes off the bench  Corey would have a similar role with them as well. I think playing in the easteren conference with our big three gives him the best chance at a ring no doubt in my mind.But Spurs might be a better fit for him because he is much better than Bowen.


Bowen will take minutes from him in the playoffs because he is one of the best defenders in the league.  This is exactly why most of us would still rather have Posey if he'll take our offer.  We magnified the point this year that defense wins championships.  Maggette is going to have to improve on that end of the court. 

With the level of disfunctionality our second unit had for the most part through the season and playoffs, I think a capable scorer like Maggette would improve our team much more (especially since he gets to the line with ease) than a good defender off the bench.

And let's not forget, Pierce was the real defender through the playoffs. There was a bit of a dropoff defensively when Posey subbed for Pierce.

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« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2008, 10:07:55 AM »

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Definitely put me down as someone who thinks this is extremely unlikely.  The only way I see this happening is if the money really dries up on him.  Could I see him taking 5 million instead of 6 or 7 million?  Sure.  But if the Clips or someone else offers him 10+, there's no way he comes here. 

Furthermore, I'm nervous about all of this "sacrificing" going on if he does come here.  We're supposed to believe that he's going to not only be OK with sacrificing money, but also sacrificing stats?  I mean Doc's been commended for getting the Big Three to sacrifice stats in the name of winning.  Now, we want Maggette to sacrifice money and stats at an even younger age?  I'm just not sure how this pans out. 

Furthermore, I'm not totally sold on his shooting.  He shot well from behind the arc last year, but it was really the first time in his career.  People forget how important that spacing and shooting was for the C's offense last year.  If he can't buy a shot, things aren't going to work so well with him.

All that said, if he came here for the minimum, I'd deal with those problems.  I'm just not sure it's as fabulous of a fit as some people think it is.  It really seems like the C's would be succumbing to the allure of stats rather than what got them here: defense, shooting, and team play.