Some say Boston is not that good

[johnnyrondo]

I can see why some might call the Celtics boring, mainly because we aren't athletic and such. Not many dunks. But, we have wonderful animated personalities, this team is not boring at all. I myself would like to infuse the team with some guard/sf youth that can dunk on everyone, but that's another matter entirely.

Aw, a veiled resign Gerald Green comment if I've ever seen one

[wdleehi]

Teams that are 'boring' are the teams that can shut down the other team. 



So, I will take 'boring' and be happy.




As for the list of teams that 'would have beat Boston', they should have made it to the Finals then. 

[RebusRankin]

SA would have been a good match-up too. Yes, their D is tough but we have more offense. NO lacks depth and can't play our level of D.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I can see why some might call the Celtics boring, mainly because we aren't athletic and such. Not many dunks. But, we have wonderful animated personalities, this team is not boring at all. I myself would like to infuse the team with some guard/sf youth that can dunk on everyone, but that's another matter entirely.

Aw, a veiled resign Gerald Green comment if I've ever seen one

I wouldn't be opposed to having Green with this current team, and see how he adapts to the veteran presence... it was more towards wishing Tony Allen was the Tony of old, and the "dunk on anyone" is a comment more in the vein of hoping to add capable people of penetrating at will, much like Tony does.

That's the only real weakness I find in this team, not enough people that attack the basket consistantly enough. Though we've done a good job at it for the most part against the Lakers.

[Birdbrain]

Interesting I missed the not athletic canard the first time it came around.  Sorry but that's completely inaccurate.  In this series no one outside of Kobe that's made any impact in the series is more athletic than Rondo, Garnett, Paul, or Ray to lesser extent.  And I would go as far as to say that there has never been a player like Garnett.  So yes the C's are very athletic. 

Athletic and Intelligent very good combo. I could forgive fans of other teams saying this because they are either uninformed about the team or trying to find a way to slam the team but, a C's fan well.. let's just say we don't see things in same manner.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Interesting I missed the not athletic canard the first time it came around.  Sorry but that's completely inaccurate.  In this series no one outside of Kobe that's made any impact in the series is more athletic than Rondo, Garnett, Paul, or Ray to lesser extent.  And I would go as far as to say that there has never been a player like Garnett.  So yes the C's are very athletic. 

Athletic and Intelligent very good combo. I could forgive fans of other teams saying this because they are either uninformed about the team or trying to find a way to slam the team but, a C's fan well.. let's just say we don't see things in same manner.

When did I mention we were not athletic? When did I compare our team to against the Lakers "athetic" ability?

Haven't you guys seen how passive our team gets at time and jump shot happy? That's a consequence of not having enough people that thrive on penetrating. It has been what has killed our offense, aside from inconsistent PG play, though most of the playoffs.

And what's wrong with wishing to have some youthful athletic players in our team? Nothing wrong with that. Am I saying to get these people over better smarter players? I don't remember saying that. That's why I've been lobbying in the draft threads for big SG/SF players, in the 6'6'' range. Someone like Bill Walker who can also defend from what I've seen.

Point is we could use some more athletic ability, that's not to say we don't have some athletic people in our team. But as a whole, we're quite thin in that regard.

[johnnyrondo]

Interesting I missed the not athletic canard the first time it came around.  Sorry but that's completely inaccurate.  In this series no one outside of Kobe that's made any impact in the series is more athletic than Rondo, Garnett, Paul, or Ray to lesser extent.  And I would go as far as to say that there has never been a player like Garnett.  So yes the C's are very athletic. 

Athletic and Intelligent very good combo. I could forgive fans of other teams saying this because they are either uninformed about the team or trying to find a way to slam the team but, a C's fan well.. let's just say we don't see things in same manner.

There hads never been a player like Garnett, but he is not the 6'12" athletic freak he was earlier in his career. Ray Allen isn't the uber athlete he was either and Pierce has lost a little too (started out with less than KG and Ray). We're a great team, but besides Rondo, the rest of our team isn't that athletic. I'm not arguing that we need to sign athletes just for the sake of being sexier, just saying that KG and Ray nowadays aren't the same players athletically as they once were.

[WillyBeamin]

Interesting I missed the not athletic canard the first time it came around.  Sorry but that's completely inaccurate.  In this series no one outside of Kobe that's made any impact in the series is more athletic than Rondo, Garnett, Paul, or Ray to lesser extent.  And I would go as far as to say that there has never been a player like Garnett.  So yes the C's are very athletic. 

Athletic and Intelligent very good combo. I could forgive fans of other teams saying this because they are either uninformed about the team or trying to find a way to slam the team but, a C's fan well.. let's just say we don't see things in same manner.

There hads never been a player like Garnett, but he is not the 6'12" athletic freak he was earlier in his career. Ray Allen isn't the uber athlete he was either and Pierce has lost a little too (started out with less than KG and Ray). We're a great team, but besides Rondo, the rest of our team isn't that athletic. I'm not arguing that we need to sign athletes just for the sake of being sexier, just saying that KG and Ray nowadays aren't the same players athletically as they once were.

did you see how high KG got on that put back in game 1? In game 3 he had to duck his head under the rim on the alley-oop from ray ray... he's pretty **** athletic.

[CLeht11]

All we heard all year was that the East is the 'JV' league and the West is where the real teams are.  I guess all that talk was completely false.  That is - if we can close these guys out.

I can see our starting 5 be 'boring' to watch, but if we have House and Posey in there or even just Posey in for Perk, that is exciting basketball. Running the floor, Dunking, shooting threes, you can't call that boring.

We beat the Pistons, who MIGHT have beat the Spurs and Hornets anyway, so we had a harder trip than the Lakers did.  Because at least the Hawks can play some resemblance of defense, unlike Denver.

[reese45]

THE....VUJADOR!!!



The Celtics are the best team in the league, next year it might be different, but as of right now, we are up 3-1 on the "Soft-Angeles Lakers".  Supposedly the best team in the leauge.  So where is our love, where is our respect?  I guess stuffing all the words from every sports analyst in the world has forced these men and women to make excuses for everything.  There is one fact.  Boston plays Defense like nobody has in 15 years.  Physical, intelligent, great coaching, and desire has put us at the top of the mountain, now all we gotta do is raise that banner up.  Its been a long road since Rick Pitino, and if anyone doubts what Boston will do to close out this season, just look at Kobe Bryant HAS done against Boston all year.  33% Shooting in 5 of the 6 games, and 5 Loses, so let the melt over the pasta primivera for the night and tell me how it sticks Sunday morning.  Thank you my Celtics for showing me and the rest of your loyal fans what a true Champion is made up of. 

GO C's

[spelz]

I was watching Firsttake on ESPN Friday and they interviewed Bill Plasche (the LA columnist who is alays on Around the Horn) and he went as far as to claim Boston the better team this year.  He then went on to say the Lakers will be the best team next season because they will have Andrew Bynum back.  Did Bynum get a lot better since I saw him last?  I feel the Lakers could have Bynum plying right now and the Celtics would still win.

[BballTim]

Interesting I missed the not athletic canard the first time it came around.  Sorry but that's completely inaccurate.  In this series no one outside of Kobe that's made any impact in the series is more athletic than Rondo, Garnett, Paul, or Ray to lesser extent.  And I would go as far as to say that there has never been a player like Garnett.  So yes the C's are very athletic. 

Athletic and Intelligent very good combo. I could forgive fans of other teams saying this because they are either uninformed about the team or trying to find a way to slam the team but, a C's fan well.. let's just say we don't see things in same manner.

When did I mention we were not athletic? When did I compare our team to against the Lakers "athetic" ability?

  Here's what you said:

  "I can see why some might call the Celtics boring, mainly because we aren't athletic and such. Not many dunks."

  I wasn't sure if you were saying that the Celts aren't athletic, or that some people might say that the Celts aren't athletic because of their lack of dunks.

[hbhsbball15]

I was watching Firsttake on ESPN Friday and they interviewed Bill Plasche (the LA columnist who is alays on Around the Horn) and he went as far as to claim Boston the better team this year.  He then went on to say the Lakers will be the best team next season because they will have Andrew Bynum back.  Did Bynum get a lot better since I saw him last?  I feel the Lakers could have Bynum plying right now and the Celtics would still win.

Yes Bynum was having a break out season this year before his injury.
he averaged about 13 points and 10 rebounds a game and was shaping up to be an extremely talented big man.
A lineup of gasol, bynum, odom, bryant, and a point guard will be very scary next year...but who cares.
Bynum is injured and we are the better team and this is time to be happy about this season...next season doesnt count yet

[Birdbrain]

Ok well maybe I took that a bit differently than it was meant to be.  But I keep hearing this and to me it's being completely blown out of proportion and being used anytime they struggle.  Sometimes they actually don't play well.  And I disagree that Garnett isn't still the most athletic player his size in the game.  And Paul has never been an uber athlete but, I consider strength to be part of athleticism.  Why do you think Paul can cover Kobe?  Not because of quickness or jumping ability. 

Of course if Ainge thinks the C's need another wing player to back up Ray and Paul I won't complain about it.  My point was more why someone would think they weren't a very good team.  If someone thought they weren't very good because they aren't athletic enough then they would be incorrect.  For instance they are much more athletic than any of Bulls teams except of course Jordan but, I don't remember anyone saying they weren't athletic. 

[BudweiserCeltic]

Interesting I missed the not athletic canard the first time it came around.  Sorry but that's completely inaccurate.  In this series no one outside of Kobe that's made any impact in the series is more athletic than Rondo, Garnett, Paul, or Ray to lesser extent.  And I would go as far as to say that there has never been a player like Garnett.  So yes the C's are very athletic. 

Athletic and Intelligent very good combo. I could forgive fans of other teams saying this because they are either uninformed about the team or trying to find a way to slam the team but, a C's fan well.. let's just say we don't see things in same manner.

When did I mention we were not athletic? When did I compare our team to against the Lakers "athetic" ability?

  Here's what you said:

  "I can see why some might call the Celtics boring, mainly because we aren't athletic and such. Not many dunks."

  I wasn't sure if you were saying that the Celts aren't athletic, or that some people might say that the Celts aren't athletic because of their lack of dunks.

I mispoke then, I meant in the sense that we don't dunk as much as other teams (and that's why others might view this team as boring), and in that regard not as exciting. I guess I should've said "as athletic as other teams", which is mainly what I meant. Garnett's dunks are great, but few and quite far in between. Though we have a couple of athletic players, the believe that we're an athletic team is false. We're athletic enough, if you want to put it that way. We are in between you know, we can get up the court and such, but there's a certain degree of athletism that we're missing, and it's quite evident at times when our offense stagnates.

Anyways, there were two issues being discussed by my part. One was the public perception of entertainment, and the other was what I feel is one of the weaknesses our team has. Sure, we're somewhat athletic, but we can and should get even more athletic. All for penetration sake, and sure, for excitement sake... they energize the crowd and the team.

Easy buckets are hard to come by for our team. It always seems like we have to fight for every point we make. I think athletism can make for easy baskets here and there, especially via dunks. They may be flashy and such, but they're quite effective.