Doc calling out bloggers

[ma11l]

Interesting quote from the Herald today:

But then, in so many words, the good Doc did tell his critics to kiss off.

“I like what we’ve done,” he said. “I coach the way I coach. I’ve always laughed at some of the criticism. I was joking with someone the other day, and I said, ‘Answer me this. Why would someone listen to a guy that hasn’t played, he hasn’t coached . . . some of the guys have never even been reporters, they’re bloggers, and not listen to a guy and his whole staff who have played and coached? Now who’s the fool? Me, or the people listening to them?’ ”


Doc really calling out his critics.  Ya know what?...good for him.  We've mostly all criticized him at some point.  He is a professional doing his job, and quite frankly, has his team one win away from the NBA Finals.  He knows he must be doing something right.

[BrickJames]

 

Doc's laughing all the way to the bank too.  Good for him.

I repeat that almost no one could've handled this group of guys effectively (except for maybe the Zen Master).  Doc has done a great job, and his players respect him.  Almost every guy that Doc coached lists Doc as one of the best coaches they've ever played for.  That goes a long way.

[Roy Hobbs]

I think it's perfectly appropriate for bloggers to criticize public figures, whether it be coaches, players, politicians, actresses, or whoever. 

I don't buy the "you have to have been in the field to properly criticize it".  That's bunk, and even moreso, plenty of professionals have been questioning Doc lately.

The other part of Doc's argument -- that people should listen to him and his coaching staff about the job he's doing -- is even more ridiculous.  What coach is going to admit "you know, I suck at my job, and I'm really in over my head"?

I'm not criticizing Doc's coaching here -- there are plenty of other threads for that -- but his reasoning about bloggers is pretty asinine.

[Eja117]

Wait wait wait. Let's get this straight now. Doc is saying to his critics basically "Yeah that whole Atlanta taking us to game 7 thing? Yeah that was all in the plan all along. You dumb bloggers who never played just wouldn't understand that."

So basically he wants the credit when things go right, but no blame when things go wrong? mkay. sure. This is why everyone loves Doc.   

[CelticsWhat35]

Interesting quote from the Herald today:

But then, in so many words, the good Doc did tell his critics to kiss off.

“I like what we’ve done,” he said. “I coach the way I coach. I’ve always laughed at some of the criticism. I was joking with someone the other day, and I said, ‘Answer me this. Why would someone listen to a guy that hasn’t played, he hasn’t coached . . . some of the guys have never even been reporters, they’re bloggers, and not listen to a guy and his whole staff who have played and coached? Now who’s the fool? Me, or the people listening to them?’ ”


Doc really calling out his critics.  Ya know what?...good for him.  We've mostly all criticized him at some point.  He is a professional doing his job, and quite frankly, has his team one win away from the NBA Finals.  He knows he must be doing something right.

We all have every right to critique Doc's performance.  It's a free country.  And he has the right to say what he says.  And I don't blame him one bit.  Picture yourself at your own job, and then picture someone at your job with much less knowledge and experience telling you how horrible you are and what you should do differently.  It's gonna get tired after a while.

[Scintan]

Interesting quote from the Herald today:

But then, in so many words, the good Doc did tell his critics to kiss off.

“I like what we’ve done,” he said. “I coach the way I coach. I’ve always laughed at some of the criticism. I was joking with someone the other day, and I said, ‘Answer me this. Why would someone listen to a guy that hasn’t played, he hasn’t coached . . . some of the guys have never even been reporters, they’re bloggers, and not listen to a guy and his whole staff who have played and coached? Now who’s the fool? Me, or the people listening to them?’ ”


Doc really calling out his critics.  Ya know what?...good for him.  We've mostly all criticized him at some point.  He is a professional doing his job, and quite frankly, has his team one win away from the NBA Finals.  He knows he must be doing something right.

Good ol' Doc.  He can't coach, but he's good for a laugh.  I assume he's never given his wife advice or criticism on anything pertaining to women, women's relationships, etc...

[BrickJames]

Interesting quote from the Herald today:

But then, in so many words, the good Doc did tell his critics to kiss off.

“I like what we’ve done,” he said. “I coach the way I coach. I’ve always laughed at some of the criticism. I was joking with someone the other day, and I said, ‘Answer me this. Why would someone listen to a guy that hasn’t played, he hasn’t coached . . . some of the guys have never even been reporters, they’re bloggers, and not listen to a guy and his whole staff who have played and coached? Now who’s the fool? Me, or the people listening to them?’ ”


Doc really calling out his critics.  Ya know what?...good for him.  We've mostly all criticized him at some point.  He is a professional doing his job, and quite frankly, has his team one win away from the NBA Finals.  He knows he must be doing something right.

Good ol' Doc.  He can't coach, but he's good for a laugh.  I assume he's never given his wife advice or criticism on anything pertaining to women, women's relationships, etc...

Yeah, he can't coach.  He took 3 future HoF'ers, one extremely volatile one, to the ECF and probably the finals in his first year, garnering the NBA's best record along the way.  Terrible coach if you ask me.

[Scintan]

Interesting quote from the Herald today:

But then, in so many words, the good Doc did tell his critics to kiss off.

“I like what we’ve done,” he said. “I coach the way I coach. I’ve always laughed at some of the criticism. I was joking with someone the other day, and I said, ‘Answer me this. Why would someone listen to a guy that hasn’t played, he hasn’t coached . . . some of the guys have never even been reporters, they’re bloggers, and not listen to a guy and his whole staff who have played and coached? Now who’s the fool? Me, or the people listening to them?’ ”


Doc really calling out his critics.  Ya know what?...good for him.  We've mostly all criticized him at some point.  He is a professional doing his job, and quite frankly, has his team one win away from the NBA Finals.  He knows he must be doing something right.

Good ol' Doc.  He can't coach, but he's good for a laugh.  I assume he's never given his wife advice or criticism on anything pertaining to women, women's relationships, etc...

Yeah, he can't coach.  He took 3 future HoF'ers, one extremely volatile one, to the ECF and probably the finals in his first year, garnering the NBA's best record along the way.  Terrible coach if you ask me.

Wow, he can coach 3 Hall of Famers in a staggeringly weak conference?  That's amazing and, doubtless, nobody's ever won a lot of games with 3 Hall of Famers in their lineup before.  Hey, how'd he do last season?

[Eja117]

Interesting quote from the Herald today:

But then, in so many words, the good Doc did tell his critics to kiss off.

“I like what we’ve done,” he said. “I coach the way I coach. I’ve always laughed at some of the criticism. I was joking with someone the other day, and I said, ‘Answer me this. Why would someone listen to a guy that hasn’t played, he hasn’t coached . . . some of the guys have never even been reporters, they’re bloggers, and not listen to a guy and his whole staff who have played and coached? Now who’s the fool? Me, or the people listening to them?’ ”


Doc really calling out his critics.  Ya know what?...good for him.  We've mostly all criticized him at some point.  He is a professional doing his job, and quite frankly, has his team one win away from the NBA Finals.  He knows he must be doing something right.

Good ol' Doc.  He can't coach, but he's good for a laugh.  I assume he's never given his wife advice or criticism on anything pertaining to women, women's relationships, etc...

Yeah, he can't coach.  He took 3 future HoF'ers, one extremely volatile one, to the ECF and probably the finals in his first year, garnering the NBA's best record along the way.  Terrible coach if you ask me.

I know. he was only given the equivalent of a team with something like Duncan, Iguodala, a young Tony Parker, and Mike Miller. How could he be expected to win with that?

[nickagneta]

I don't think Doc is saying that people don't have a right to criticize him.

I think what he is saying is that people who have expertise in certain fields think it's funny that he, or anyone else in that field, should listen or be concerned with what people outside of that field have to say about them or the job they do because they don't know what they're talking about.

It seems silly for me to criticize a lawyer's wisdom and knowledge of the law when I have little to no knowledge of it. I have that right and what I say might be quite comical for a lawyer to hear because they know what they are talking about and I don't. So why should that lawyer take advice from me or be concerned about what I have to say.

The same holds true for a surgeon, an in depth computer software architect, a nuclear physicist, a CPA, or for that matter a mason or an electronics expert.

I have every right to criticize people in those areas but if I think they take my criticism seriously or that they should listen to my criticism because I might have one one millionth of the knowledge they have about that subject, I'm just being silly.

So Doc criticized his critics. Seems Doc has handled the criticism hurled his way better than some here at this site has handled the criticism thrown back at them.

BTW because I used a lawyer as my first example it does not mean I am trying to single out any one person. Sorry if it might come off that way.

[fairweatherfan]

I think it's perfectly appropriate for bloggers to criticize public figures, whether it be coaches, players, politicians, actresses, or whoever. 

I don't buy the "you have to have been in the field to properly criticize it".  That's bunk, and even moreso, plenty of professionals have been questioning Doc lately.

The other part of Doc's argument -- that people should listen to him and his coaching staff about the job he's doing -- is even more ridiculous.  What coach is going to admit "you know, I suck at my job, and I'm really in over my head"?

I'm not criticizing Doc's coaching here -- there are plenty of other threads for that -- but his reasoning about bloggers is pretty asinine.

I don't think Doc is saying you have to be in a field to criticize it - I think he's saying it's a bit foolish to give much weight to the opinions of people who have no first hand experience with the field.  I notice when this stuff comes up bloggers tend to read into it that they're being told to shut up somehow - they (usually) aren't - instead they're being told that they don't really know what they're talking about, they're full of sound and fury signifying nothing, as the man would say. 

I think this is to a degree true and to a degree not - much of Doc's criticisms come from his in-game decisions, which are close to 100% of the coaching the fans see and maybe more like 25% of the coach's actual job.  Doc is occasionally slow to adjust or puts baffling lineups together, but obviously he has a knack for creating team cohesion - look at how little tension and conflict there has been this year, it's remarkable.  Part of that is the players being willing to buy in to the team concept, but I remember him doing something similar in Orlando his COY season.  Additionally, we were the most efficient defensive team, and among the most efficient offensive teams all season, which is an indication of a least a decent set of schemes.  Even the "calling plays out of timeouts" criticism appears to have been completely debunked this season.

Fans do have perspective and are often very knowledgeable about what does happen in those 48 minutes, though, so ingame criticisms, especially when a lot of people are saying the same thing, can have some validity.

And I'm not sure what professionals are criticizing him other than your usual suspect columnists - most of the analysis I've seen and heard from ex-players and coaches has been probably 80% positive, and I've never heard anyone at that level even imply he was a bad or incompetent coach.

[Andy Jick]

I think it's perfectly appropriate for bloggers to criticize public figures, whether it be coaches, players, politicians, actresses, or whoever. 

I don't buy the "you have to have been in the field to properly criticize it".  That's bunk, and even moreso, plenty of professionals have been questioning Doc lately.

The other part of Doc's argument -- that people should listen to him and his coaching staff about the job he's doing -- is even more ridiculous.  What coach is going to admit "you know, I suck at my job, and I'm really in over my head"?

I'm not criticizing Doc's coaching here -- there are plenty of other threads for that -- but his reasoning about bloggers is pretty asinine.

but when you're being criticized by people who've never coached one game, or played beyond high school ball, it has to be laughable at what people presume to know (or pretend to know).

opinions are butt holes - everyone has one...but we have no idea what doc  has had to deal with 1) when he had all those kids on the roster that had no clue how to play the game (and still don't according to their record), and 2) when he now has to deal with these egos and assembling a whole new team this season.

i've come to admire doc...i still think he's not the greatest x's and o's guy, but he is a good communicator and "players coach" and may put another banner in the rafters, something jimmy rodgers, chris ford, and rick pitino can't say...

[Eeyore III]

It's a rare day when I agree with both Roy Hobbs and Scintan in the same post, but they're both right.

You can't criticize the President of the United States unless you've been President of the United States?  You can't criticize a serial killer unless you've been a serial killer?  What claptrap!

[Roy Hobbs]

It seems silly for me to criticize a lawyer's wisdom and knowledge of the law when I have little to no knowledge of it. I have that right and what I say might be quite comical for a lawyer to hear because they know what they are talking about and I don't. So why should that lawyer take advice from me or be concerned about what I have to say.

The same holds true for a surgeon, an in depth computer software architect, a nuclear physicist, a CPA, or for that matter a mason or an electronics expert.

On the other hand, there are going to be times when that lawyer, surgeon, software architect, physicist (maybe not), CPA, mason, eletctronics expert, or whoever else is clearly wrong, and you can criticize.  Especially if the lawyer loses case after case, and the judge keeps throwing out the same types of evidence for the same reasons.

[Eja117]

 he is a good communicator and "players coach" and may put another banner in the rafters, something jimmy rodgers, chris ford, and rick pitino can't say...

I don't think they're good NBA coaches either