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Why blame Stern for the bad officiating?...
« on: May 17, 2008, 08:19:32 PM »

Offline StarzNBarz

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If i can recall, last years finals were the worst rated finals in a long time. So why would stern want to go through that again? If he wants a good rated finals wont he want celtics/lakers in the finals? i know the officiating is horrible (especially on the c's) but why is it sterns fault?

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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2008, 08:22:59 PM »

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If i can recall, last years finals were the worst rated finals in a long time. So why would stern want to go through that again? If he wants a good rated finals wont he want celtics/lakers in the finals? i know the officiating is horrible (especially on the c's) but why is it sterns fault?

welcome to the forums stars Its nice to see u othere place different than Chat room

And yes

I do think the perfect final for this league in general is the boston LA one
because it can take national ratings not only regional

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And ur welcome tommy point

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Re: Why blame Stern for the bad officiating?...
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2008, 08:30:53 PM »

Offline butterbeanlove

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Because he's an untrustworthy goblin/gremlin/griffin/gnome who makes up the rules as he goes along (gives the refs a pass on casinos but hold the Suns' bench to the fire because they set foot on the court during a non-altercation). That kind of crap destroys your credibility and makes everyone question your motives.

Just rewatching the second half of last night's game and I thought we played pretty [dang] well and showed a lot of heart, overall, especially given the circumstances. I don't even have too many problems with Ray and Rondo. If we play like that tomorrow as a team we win by 25.

Oh, and, the Cavs' PA announcer sounds like something out of "Idiocracy." Must be a lot of Costco's out there.

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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2008, 08:57:36 PM »

Offline cool breeze

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I guess one possible reason would be to maximize the ratings during the playoffs. "40 games in 40 nights"

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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2008, 09:23:31 PM »

Offline Pawtucket Pat

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Why blame Doc for bad players? When all else fails, you've got to point the finger at the guy in charge.

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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2008, 11:13:43 PM »

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If i can recall, last years finals were the worst rated finals in a long time. So why would stern want to go through that again? If he wants a good rated finals wont he want celtics/lakers in the finals? i know the officiating is horrible (especially on the c's) but why is it sterns fault?

it is sterns responsibility bc he is the man in charge.  the nba officiating is horrible.  why do superstar get calls that rookies dont?  a foul is a foul, regardless of the players involved.  why do many officials make late foul calls, after seeing if the ball goes in the hoop?  a foul is a foul, regardless if it goes in.  why are there make-up calls, which is basically making up for an admittingly bad call prior.  traveling, continuation, palming, etc.  the nba officals are terrible and stern does nothing to improve it.

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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2008, 11:45:59 PM »

Offline RebusRankin

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I blame Stern because he's in charge. I also don't buy the theory that he wants a Lakers-Celtics finals. Based on how stars are marketed over teams, I think he'd prefer a Kobe versus Lebron finals.

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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2008, 11:50:07 PM »

Offline jaketwice

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If i can recall, last years finals were the worst rated finals in a long time. So why would stern want to go through that again? If he wants a good rated finals wont he want celtics/lakers in the finals? i know the officiating is horrible (especially on the c's) but why is it sterns fault?

it is sterns responsibility bc he is the man in charge.  the nba officiating is horrible.  why do superstar get calls that rookies dont?  a foul is a foul, regardless of the players involved.  why do many officials make late foul calls, after seeing if the ball goes in the hoop?  a foul is a foul, regardless if it goes in.  why are there make-up calls, which is basically making up for an admittingly bad call prior.  traveling, continuation, palming, etc.  the nba officals are terrible and stern does nothing to improve it.

TP

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2008, 12:05:58 AM »

Offline NicaraguanFan

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We can blame refs, we can blame Stern, we can blame NBA, but true is we are where we are because our low perfomance in the series.  PP is shooting 36% (his average was  46% during this season) and RA is shooting 34% (his average was 44%).

NF.
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2008, 12:18:59 AM »

Offline NoraG1

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We can blame refs, we can blame Stern, we can blame NBA, but true is we are where we are because our low perfomance in the series.  PP is shooting 36% (his average was  46% during this season) and RA is shooting 34% (his average was 44%).

NF.

Neither team was exactly shooting lights out in game 6 though...For this game questioning the refs is valid esp. when they give so many reasons to (there are lists of the bad calls at least 2 at the end at a crucial time in the game) including the recent scandal and the fact that even since then I have yet to see the reffing improve.

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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2008, 02:20:23 AM »

Offline Frontierboy

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I blame Stern because I know games are still being fixed even after the whole betting on games deal with that referree..... the proof is there....

1) How can a team below .500 ( the hawks) take the Celtics to 7 games???? I can see them beating us once , but com'on.......

2) Every game in the Spurs/Hornets series has been a blowout.... it is impossible for a either team to be that inconsistent from a game to game basis....

3) Easiet way to determine the outcome of a game.... give one team a lot more freethrows.... we saw this in the Celtics/Hawks series and the LA/Utah series......

4) Since last year's NBA ratings were so low, Stern is trying to make-up for the lost revenue by extending this year's playoffs to as many games as possible.....

5) And lastly...... Do you honesly think Tim Doungnehey ( or however you spell it ) was alone in fixing games?  He would have been 1 of 3 refs at each game, so technically he only controls 1/3 of the calls....... I don't think only he would have the power to control a game if the other 2 refs would outweigh him on the proportion of calls....... I guarentee there are other refs involved.....

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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2008, 04:47:24 AM »

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Stern has absolutely no responsibility when it comes to the outcome of games. There's no "agenda" by the NBA, it's referees, or it's management, to attempt to lengthen series or control advantages for the sake of profit.

The powers-that-be are completely objective and have no incentive or motivation to favor one team, coach, or player over another, and are the least biased people in all of professional sports.

So, hey! Listen: I've got this bridge I'm trying to sell ...

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Re: Why blame Stern for the bad officiating?...
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2008, 06:32:49 AM »

Offline TrueGreen

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David Stern is Commissioner of the NBA. It's his job to make this a great league. Poor officiating detracts from this being a great league. It is David Stern's fault that NBA officiating is inconsistent and not as it should be for this league. It is his job to determine why and correct it. He should be more concerned with poor officiating than he is with the way NBA players dress when the are on the injured reserve (or whatever it's called now) list. Period.

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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2008, 07:21:59 AM »

Offline connerhenry43

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there is also a perception, IMHO a valid one, that he is completely blind to the fact that the refs in the nba are horrible. if he was aware of it, and committed to doing his all to fixing it, then i would feel differently. but i feel he either does not see it, or does not care, and either one is unacceptable. he is an arrogant, smug, little man who has been in charge way too long. he is a failure in my opinion, and he has done far too much to ruin this once great league (over-expansion, not fixing the refs, worrying about dress codes over important issues, taking all emotion and instict out of the game, changing the ball for no good reason over every player's objection, only changing back when a lawsuit was threatened, ruining last year's playoffs, allowing the donaghy scandal to happen, then covering it up because he knew it went much deeper than one rogue official in a handful of games).

i hate that man and really want him gone.
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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2008, 08:37:12 AM »

Offline kevingamble34

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I just posted this paragraph on another thread, but it fits here:

How can David Stern, as a lawyer, not see the inherent conflict of interest the league has with Lebron?  The 'Global Icon' is their biggest meal ticket, does the most commercials, and is basically who they have decided to push hardest as the next MJ... even though he hasn't really earned 'next MJ' status but that's another story.

If you're marketing this young man as the future of the game, and he's bringing in the most cash, and he's playing pretty poorly... doesn't it start to seem odd he gets every single foul call his way?!?

Game 6 first half Big Baby intercepts an entry pass to Igaulskus after anticipating the play perfectly, but the refs think "This guy's a nobody, a rookie, he can't possibly make a good play, Foul!"  Lebron takes an out-of-control fallaway and they think "There's no way "King James" could miss on his own, Foul!"  It's a sickening double-standard.

Stern, forget about marketing Lebron : He's just a flopper who yells at his mom!