KD

[Goldstar88]

I think Brad should go after him. Houston is not good enough to contend with Durant, but I think the Celtics would be. He averaged 26pts/6rebs/5ast with 52/41/87 shooting splits. A JT/KD duo would be lethal. Not sure what it would take to get him, but I?d be willing to give up a first round pick, Maybe two.

A starting 5 of: Pritchard, White, Tatum, Durant, Queta is as good as any in the NBA. Window is short, but at least they would have a chance to contend this coming season.

[Vermont Green]

I have no idea whether HOU would consider trading Durant or not, but the only way that I could see a deal with BOS working would be if we sent out Paul George.  We then would have to take back VanVleet also and maybe send out Hauser.  To that, BOS would likely have to add Gonzalez and a first round pick or two.

Durant and VanVleet would likely be an upgrade on Paul George and Sam Hauser, but I am not sure Durant will be any more durable than George. I really don't see why HOU would do this, if they wanted to trade Durant, why not offer him for Brown?

[Goldstar88]

I have no idea whether HOU would consider trading Durant or not, but the only way that I could see a deal with BOS working would be if we sent out Paul George.  We then would have to take back VanVleet also and maybe send out Hauser.  To that, BOS would likely have to add Gonzalez and a first round pick or two.

Durant and VanVleet would likely be an upgrade on Paul George and Sam Hauser, but I am not sure Durant will be any more durable than George. I really don't see why HOU would do this, if they wanted to trade Durant, why not offer him for Brown?

Durant played in 78 games last season. He has been a durable player since the Achilles injury. The reason Houston would not want to trade KD for JB is because Brown has more years on his contract, is making the super max and will be looking to extend it. Durant is not.

[slightly biased bias fan]

I have no idea whether HOU would consider trading Durant or not, but the only way that I could see a deal with BOS working would be if we sent out Paul George.  We then would have to take back VanVleet also and maybe send out Hauser.  To that, BOS would likely have to add Gonzalez and a first round pick or two.

Durant and VanVleet would likely be an upgrade on Paul George and Sam Hauser, but I am not sure Durant will be any more durable than George. I really don't see why HOU would do this, if they wanted to trade Durant, why not offer him for Brown?

Durant played in 78 games last season. He has been a durable player since the Achilles injury. The reason Houston would not want to trade KD for JB is because Brown has more years on his contract, is making the super max and will be looking to extend it. Durant is not.

Sorry, but I do not see why Houston trades Durant for George. If they have not traded him after his burner scandal, they are not moving him.

There is no fix for this team, especially after Brown trade. I appreciate the positive thread looking for ways to fight for a title, but IMO it is over for this iteration of the Celtics.

My current theory is that the Celtics will tread water until the 2028 pick is conveyed to the Spurs, then they will go into a full rebuild.

[SparzWizard]

Funny as you mentioned this, I just encountered a Facebook post of speculations that Houston and Boston discussed about a package that would send KD to BOS.

BOS receives:
-Kevin Durant

HOU receives:
-Payton Pritchard
-Sam Hauser
-Jordan Walsh
-2031 first-round pick

[slightly biased bias fan]

Funny as you mentioned this, I just encountered a Facebook post of speculations that Houston and Boston discussed about a package that would send KD to BOS.

BOS receives:
-Kevin Durant

HOU receives:
-Payton Pritchard
-Sam Hauser
-Jordan Walsh
-2031 first-round pick

Posts like that are essentially bot spam.

The salaries are not even close to matching.

[Who]

Houston think they are title contenders with VanVleet now back. That is why they didn't make any major moves in the off-season.

So Durant won't be available until that bubble bursts.

[No Nickname]

I have no idea whether HOU would consider trading Durant or not, but the only way that I could see a deal with BOS working would be if we sent out Paul George.  We then would have to take back VanVleet also and maybe send out Hauser.  To that, BOS would likely have to add Gonzalez and a first round pick or two.

Durant and VanVleet would likely be an upgrade on Paul George and Sam Hauser, but I am not sure Durant will be any more durable than George. I really don't see why HOU would do this, if they wanted to trade Durant, why not offer him for Brown?

Durant played in 78 games last season. He has been a durable player since the Achilles injury. The reason Houston would not want to trade KD for JB is because Brown has more years on his contract, is making the super max and will be looking to extend it. Durant is not.

Sorry, but I do not see why Houston trades Durant for George. If they have not traded him after his burner scandal, they are not moving him.

There is no fix for this team, especially after Brown trade. I appreciate the positive thread looking for ways to fight for a title, but IMO it is over for this iteration of the Celtics.

My current theory is that the Celtics will tread water until the 2028 pick is conveyed to the Spurs, then they will go into a full rebuild.

If I'm not mistaken, the 2028 scenario is a pick-swap.  We could be trading the 23rd pick for the 30th that year, but then we'd have the best of the Sixers/Clips/Spurs 1st rounders per the Brown trade.

In 2029 we owe Portland our 1st for the Jrue trade.

I don't think we're going to tread water for two or three years. I think Brad will trade that pick in the next offseason, along with Paul George, and maybe another 1st and one of our young small forwards for a disgruntled star, or a team that wants to reset.

Or another possibility...

I'm thinking of Evan Mobley or Alperen Şengun. 

While the Cavs didn't want Brown this summer (because of his contract) for Mobley, if James Harden falls off a cliff-- or forces a trade-- this year, Cleveland might be interested in this package for Mobley:

-Derrick White
-Sam Hauser
-1st Rounder (which one is TBD)

At that point, maybe Hugo is ready to slide into a starting role (replacing Derrick White). 

We'd be pretty loaded in the front court with Mobley, Queta, and Robinson so one of them might get traded for a quality PG.

And we'd still have an expiring Paul George and a future 1st to trade in another deal.

Celtics' Future 1sts
2027   Boston's own 1st   ✅
2028   Best of Boston/Philadelphia/Clippers 1st / Pick swap involving Spurs ✅
2029   None   ❌
2030   Boston's own 1st   ✅ Yes
2031   Boston's own 1st + Philadelphia's 1st ✅ ✅







 

[Vermont Green]

Houston think they are title contenders with VanVleet now back. That is why they didn't make any major moves in the off-season.

So Durant won't be available until that bubble bursts.

I don't know what Houston thinks about their team but it makes sense that they would want to see how the team looks with VanVleet back.  He was a good player before this recent injury and probably still will be a good player.  Durant, Sengun, and VanVleet is a decent core.  Not a title contender though.

I thought that HOU would have been interested in Brown.  I get that Brown is a longer term commitment, but if you like the player, that shouldn't really matter.  If you don't like the player, or don't like him enough, then yes, a longer commitment is a negative.  So HOU may be another example of a team not liking Brown on his current contract, not necessarily not liking Brown in general.

[Roy H.]

It's hard to construct a trade that works while keeping both the Celts and Rockets beneath the tax.

Durant + FVV for George + Hauser + Harper + picks

That works at the trade deadline, but not currently because we would only have 13 roster spots, and less than the rookie minimum to fill that last spot.  Whereas at the deadline, we could sign somebody to a prorated deal and fit them in with what we have left.

I don't think it's particularly realistic, but if that roster was healthy, we'd at least be a contender again, even if it would be short-lived.

Queta / Robinson / Garza
Tatum / Walsh / CCJ
Durant / Hugo
White / Scheierman
FVV / Pritchard

Fun team.

[Goldstar88]

It's hard to construct a trade that works while keeping both the Celts and Rockets beneath the tax.

Durant + FVV for George + Hauser + Harper + picks

That works at the trade deadline, but not currently because we would only have 13 roster spots, and less than the rookie minimum to fill that last spot.  Whereas at the deadline, we could sign somebody to a prorated deal and fit them in with what we have left.

I don't think it's particularly realistic, but if that roster was healthy, we'd at least be a contender again, even if it would be short-lived.

Queta / Robinson / Garza
Tatum / Walsh / CCJ
Durant / Hugo
Walsh / Scheierman
FVV / Pritchard

Fun team.

Where did White go!? 

I can?t see Houston being better than a 5/6 seed in the West this season. I have Spurs, Thunder, Nuggets, T-Wolves, maybe the Lakers ahead of them. I don?t see how Durant staying in Houston makes sense for the team or the player. Rockets would be better off building around their young players. Also, prefer sending Garza out and keeping Harper Jr.

Starters: FVV, White, Tatum, Durant, Queta
Bench: Pritchard, Connely, Scheierman, Harper Jr, Hugo, Walsh, Robinson

That sounds pretty [dang] good to me.

[SHAQATTACK]

Do it .

I?m a fan

Not concerned about taxes

Just winning.

[Celtics4ever]

Every move we have made in the Bill Chisholm Era has been to get under  or keep under the tax.   So this move is not going to happen, folks.

[MattyIce]

Houston think they are title contenders with VanVleet now back. That is why they didn't make any major moves in the off-season.

So Durant won't be available until that bubble bursts.

agreed, I was with one of the people in Houston's circle in the last few days, he literally said "we winning it all this year"

I know thats just what people say but he was completely serious. 

[Neurotic Guy]

More likely than Steph.