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Re: Shams: LaMelo to TWolves, Naz to Hornets
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It feels like Brown has absolutely zero interest on the trade market.

Because this one happened so quickly?

Correct. Brown is an all NBA player and it feels like Brad is having a hard time finding any takers. Maybe I am wrong but other deals are coming together quickly around the league.
I mean I would be VERY disappointed if this is the return we got for Brown. Naz Reid and an unprotected first 7 years from now? Those swaps honestly might not even fire. There is a good chance (both historically and with current team makeups) that Minny has a "worse" pick all 3 years.

Yeah but this does not make me feel any better:

"There is some belief that the Celtics front office would consider offers based more on younger prospects, picks and pick swaps for Jaylen Brown."

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I get that, but this only checks one of those 3 boxes. It has pick swapS. One unprotected first 7 years out, and a good veteran isn't a younger prospect don't check the other two boxes.
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Re: Shams: LaMelo to TWolves, Naz to Hornets
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What an awful awful trade for Minnesota. One of the worst trades in a long time. Charlotte was probably biting their tongue trying to hold their laughter that can get rid of that loser LaMelo and get that return. That hornets GM is in contention of executive of the year already. How long till Ant wants out ? Won?t be long .

I think it's the complete opposite. Minnesota just got a potentially All NBA capable player for a bench player, an unprotected pick in 2033 and 3 second round picks. As for the 3 first round pick swaps, that's assuming Charlotte will have a better record in those years to convey.

Yeah, Hornets fans are p---ed about this trade on Reddit. Many want the GM fired.
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Re: Shams: LaMelo to TWolves, Naz to Hornets
« Reply #32 on: Today at 10:45:43 AM »

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Ah poor Naz Reid. He just got the starting job. Now he has been traded and will be coming off the bench again.

I wonder if Charlotte trade Miles Bridges. He would be a good 6th man for BOS. Backing up Jaylen & Tatum. Or if Jaylen is traded, a replacement as starting SF. Naz Reid could then start at PF for CHA.

Re: Shams: LaMelo to TWolves, Naz to Hornets
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I am guessing we can cross Coby white off the list of potential guards to be brought in as a FA. Seems he will be needed now in Charlotte.

Re: Shams: LaMelo to TWolves, Naz to Hornets
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Charlotte could get a $40.7 million TPE out of this??!!


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Re: Shams: LaMelo to TWolves, Naz to Hornets
« Reply #35 on: Today at 10:52:44 AM »

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I wonder if Minnesota will go small now.

Play Jaden McDaniels as a PF and play run and gun basketball.

G: LaMelo, Bones Hyland
G: Ant, Dosunmu
F: T Shannon, (Ant)
F: Jaden McDaniels, Slow Mo
C: Gobert, Beringer

No forwards with size other than McDaniels.

They could even start Ant at SF and then start Dosunmu too. That would give them a tremendous amount of firepower. Open up that offense. A completely different type of team. They have Jaylen Clark (SG) who can step up and give backup SG minutes. Yeah, I like that better. Bring T Shannon off the bench as a backup SF.

G: LaMelo, Bones Hyland
G: Dosunmu, Jaylen Clark
F: Ant, T Shannon
F: Jaden McDaniels, Slow Mo
C: Gobert, Beringer

That team would be very difficult to play against. Lots of speed & athleticism. Lots of ball-handling. Lots of shooting. Gobert & Beringer holding it down in the middle.

Edit: I forgot they got Josh Green in the trade. He can be backup SG or a backup SF for them.
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Re: Shams: LaMelo to TWolves, Naz to Hornets
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I kind of like this for both teams. Obviously it opens things up for Charlotte and gets rid of a player who might've held them back. For Minny, they were going to have to reset things anyway. Lamelo potentially makes Ant more dangerous since things are going to be a little less predictable. Ant needs another threat to open things up for him. Probably not a recipe for long term success, but a decent shake up for the next couple of years.

Re: Shams: LaMelo to TWolves, Naz to Hornets
« Reply #37 on: Today at 10:57:24 AM »

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Rudy Gobert (in his mid-thirties) is now the only playable big on Minnesotas roster. How can they expect to win with this team?

Beringer is a talent.

Re: Shams: LaMelo to TWolves, Naz to Hornets
« Reply #38 on: Today at 11:02:42 AM »

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I like LaMelo & Ant together.

Ant finally has some ball-handling & playmaking help. You now have 2 creators on either side of the court. So if the opposition loads up on one, swing the ball weak side and let the other attack a collapsing defense. They will be extremely difficult to contain.

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Wow, is this a better net haul than the Giannis trade?

No, not even close.

Ah right. I just skimmed through it. I thought they got Reid + 4 first round picks. Didn?t look at the year and the picks being swaps means the hornets are neutral.

Yeah not an impressive haul. Weird trade for both teams.
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Re: Shams: LaMelo to TWolves, Naz to Hornets
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Great trade for Charlotte getting Reid and way down the road picks?White be back at PG?Minnesota on the other hand traded 2 bigs so far In Randle and Reid..if they can get a PF in free agency then should be good
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

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This probably makes it more likely the Hornets keep Coby White on a long term deal, so that's likely not gonna be an option with the MLE
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Re: Shams: LaMelo to TWolves, Naz to Hornets
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Could Minny get LeBron to be their new PF?

Other PF options:

* John Collins
* Rui Hachimura = although it sounds like he will get more than MLE so he will likely be out of their price range.
* Kenrich Williams = talk of OKC opting out of his contract. They say they will offer him a new lesser deal.
* Tari Eason

Yabusele could be a backup PF option.

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I like them going small with McDaniels at PF over starting John Collins who is likely the best they can do. I also like them going smaller than playing Tari Eason as a starter. I do like Eason as a bench player.

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I kind of like this for both teams. Obviously it opens things up for Charlotte and gets rid of a player who might've held them back. For Minny, they were going to have to reset things anyway. Lamelo potentially makes Ant more dangerous since things are going to be a little less predictable. Ant needs another threat to open things up for him. Probably not a recipe for long term success, but a decent shake up for the next couple of years.

A player that was holding them back? He was the engine that made the team go.

Kneuppel?s shooting is top-tier and Miller has the pieces to be a quality wing talent. Neither can match the overall impact of Ball running the offense. He was the conductor of Charles Lee?s scheme. Most of their plays start with Ball running a pick-and-roll and seeing how the defense reacts before deciding to shoot, drive or dish it out to one of his talented teammates.

Charlotte?s offensive rating dropped like a rock from 125.22 to 113.30 per 100 possessions when Ball left the court, reflecting the roster?s lack of a backup point guard as well as Ball?s importance to making the whole system work. He opened up the floor for his teammates and was the guy to pass them the ball when the defense showed cracks. The team did pick up a possible replacement in Christian Anderson in the first round of the draft. But relying heavily on rookie point guards is almost always a fool?s errand. Particularly for an organization that just got a taste of contention for the first time since Kemba Walker was in his prime.
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Re: Shams: LaMelo to TWolves, Naz to Hornets
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LaMelo Ball has missed approximately 189 regular-season games throughout his career, playing in 303 out of a possible 492 games. This equates to him sitting out for roughly 38% to 42% of possible games due to various ailments, primarily persistent ankle and wrist injuries.

Out of 6 seasons. LaMelo has played 72 games (last year) and 75 games (2nd year). His 3rd highest number is 51 games. Every other year he has played under 50 games - 47 games, 36 games, 22 games.

So he has only had 2 healthy seasons out of 6 seasons.