How much money do we actually have to spend?

[Roy H.]

Scenario #1:  We stay below the luxury tax

Status quo:  $13,269,820 spending room
If we cut Shulga and Banton:  $18,222,083
If we also trade Hauser for no incoming salary:  $29,070,298

Scenario #2:  We stay below the first apron

Status quo:  $21,269,820 spending room
If we cut Shulga and Banton:  $26,222,083
If we also trade Hauser for no incoming salary:  $37,070,298

Ways to spend money:

MLE = $15,048,000 million (estimated)
TPE = $27,678,571 million
TPE = $8,200,000
TPE = $4,721,429
Biannual exception = $5,478,000

First rounder (#27) = $2,997,360 (120% of rookie scale)

Bird rights:  Vucevic

[lbgreen33]

Scenario #1:  We stay below the luxury tax

Status quo:  $13,269,820 spending room
If we cut Shulga and Banton:  $18,222,083
If we also trade Hauser for no incoming salary:  $29,070,298

Scenario #2:  We stay below the first apron

Status quo:  $21,269,820 spending room
If we cut Shulga and Banton:  $26,222,083
If we also trade Hauser for no incoming salary:  $37,070,298

Ways to spend money:

MLE = $15,048,000 million (estimated)
TPE = $27,678,571 million
TPE = $8,200,000
TPE = $4,721,429
Biannual exception = $5,478,000

First rounder (#27) = $2,997,360 (120% of rookie scale)

Bird rights:  Vucevic

Thanks Roy, this is helpful. This is the year we really Should move up in the draft!! There are a lot of good Point Guards to be had!!!

[lbgreen33]

Bye the way, I like Labaron Philon a lot!!  To me, when there is a player that good so close to our pick range, you make the move. We will see how tonight shakes out.

[celticinorlando]

I think Brad will have to stay below the lux tax for this season to reset everything. 2027 is the key offseason.

[Roy H.]

I think Brad will have to stay below the lux tax for this season to reset everything. 2027 is the key offseason.

It's certainly a goal, but I think sometimes the repeater tax gets a little overblown.  It's basically a dollar-for-dollar tax on amounts above the luxury tax line.  So, if we spent up to the first apron this season, we'd be $8 million above the luxury tax line, and the team would have to pay an extra $8 million than it would if it wasn't classified as a repeater.

An extra $8 million is annoying, but it isn't exactly crippling.

[Celtics2021]

I think Brad will have to stay below the lux tax for this season to reset everything. 2027 is the key offseason.

It's certainly a goal, but I think sometimes the repeater tax gets a little overblown.  It's basically a dollar-for-dollar tax on amounts above the luxury tax line.  So, if we spent up to the first apron this season, we'd be $8 million above the luxury tax line, and the team would have to pay an extra $8 million than it would if it wasn't classified as a repeater.

An extra $8 million is annoying, but it isn't exactly crippling.

Further, the distance between the first apron and the tax is not that large.  I would not be surprised if the Celtics start the season a little over the tax and then trade 1-2 minimum salary expiring contracts of players out of the rotation to get back under, since then they can replace full-season minimums with ones prorated for about 1/3 of the season total salary.  The Celtics have a number of such players on the roster: Garza, Harper Jr., Walsh, Shulga, and Williams are all on minimum-salary expiring contracts.  (Queta is too but I excluded him for obvious reasons).  It seems likely that at least a couple will be on the outside of the rotation looking in, and could be moved for cash, be it incoming or outgoing.

And, if conditions warrant it, the Celtics could always spend more based on the situation near the deadline.

[jambr380]

Just to clarify - and I know you said this - $13,269,820 is the number with all 14 roster spots filled. If we swap out either Shulga, Banton, or Williams, then that number bumps up above the MLE. That way we could use the entire MLE without going into the tax.

Perhaps we sign somebody for less than the MLE, use a smaller portion of the TPE, and are able to trade a couple of minimums at the deadline. I agree that I don't really care about the tax personally, but with no Giannis, I can see us going all out on ducking the tax again

[Phantom255x]

Hauser just feels like an obvious subtraction. Maybe I'm a bit harsh, I don't hate him and he's been a solid role player for us but there are other guys who can take his place and frankly, he's been mediocre in some of these playoff runs too. Not terrible, but not as effective either especially when the 3s aren't falling. Hauser + picks to trade up in the draft and/or acquire a center like Stewart or Gafford to me is the way to go. Balances out the roster better too, and you still have the full MLE at your disposal.

I'd like to see Baylor, Harper and Hugo have bigger roles next season too, and I think they are capable.

[Celtics2021]

Just to clarify - and I know you said this - $13,269,820 is the number with all 14 roster spots filled. If we swap out either Shulga, Banton, or Williams, then that number bumps up above the MLE. That way we could use the entire MLE without going into the tax.

Perhaps we sign somebody for less than the MLE, use a smaller portion of the TPE, and are able to trade a couple of minimums at the deadline. I agree that I don't really care about the tax personally, but with no Giannis, I can see us going all out on ducking the tax again

That is generally correct, yes.  Assuming no trades tonight you should swap out #27 for Banton in your mental spreadsheet, and then you can replace Shulga with the MLE, which should be just enough to stay under the tax.  That is the base case scenario for the off season.

[celticinorlando]

Hauser needs to go. Need that space and Baylor can do what he does.

[michigan adam]

Scenario #1:  We stay below the luxury tax

Status quo:  $13,269,820 spending room
If we cut Shulga and Banton:  $18,222,083
If we also trade Hauser for no incoming salary:  $29,070,298

Scenario #2:  We stay below the first apron

Status quo:  $21,269,820 spending room
If we cut Shulga and Banton:  $26,222,083
If we also trade Hauser for no incoming salary:  $37,070,298

Ways to spend money:

MLE = $15,048,000 million (estimated)
TPE = $27,678,571 million
TPE = $8,200,000
TPE = $4,721,429
Biannual exception = $5,478,000

First rounder (#27) = $2,997,360 (120% of rookie scale)

Bird rights:  Vucevic

Thanks Roy, this is helpful. This is the year we really Should move up in the draft!! There are a lot of good Point Guards to be had!!!

I also like vesaar's fit in this team.

[jambr380]

Just to clarify - and I know you said this - $13,269,820 is the number with all 14 roster spots filled. If we swap out either Shulga, Banton, or Williams, then that number bumps up above the MLE. That way we could use the entire MLE without going into the tax.

Perhaps we sign somebody for less than the MLE, use a smaller portion of the TPE, and are able to trade a couple of minimums at the deadline. I agree that I don't really care about the tax personally, but with no Giannis, I can see us going all out on ducking the tax again

That is generally correct, yes.  Assuming no trades tonight you should swap out #27 for Banton in your mental spreadsheet, and then you can replace Shulga with the MLE, which should be just enough to stay under the tax.  That is the base case scenario for the off season.

Good call on the pick. I already had it in my head that we traded it in the Giannis deal. Hopefully we do something bigger than just around the margins...that also makes us better

[keevsnick]

As Roy H has pointed out if we cut one of the non-guaranteed contracts its almost exactly the mid-level, which probably isn't a coincidence. Assuming staying below the tax is a hardline. If not add about 10 million more.

A lot can change though depending on Jaylen, Hauser, White ect.