NBA 2026-27 offseason trades, signings & rumors

[jambr380]

Send Brown over for Murray and Johnson. Denver gets the strongest duo threat in the NBA in Jokic/Brown

I prefer J Murray & Jokic vs Jaylen & Jokic.

Jamal Murray and Jokic have a better two man game. Murray a ball-handler and perimeter shooter. He works great in the PnR with Jokic. They have great chemistry.

I do not think Jaylen and Jokic would have similar chemistry. Jaylen isn't as good of a ball-handler or a perimeter scorer. Jaylen is a much better iso guy. He works better on his own than Murray rather than in tandem with someone as Murray does.

It would at least be somewhat interesting if the trade was Murray/Watson instead of Murray/Johnson. I really like Watson's game and he'd be a nice consolation prize to missing out on Trey Murphy. Johnson is just an expiring 30 year old and the Nuggets have zero tradable firsts

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Duren in a S&T for Brown is actually hard to pull off financially. Because of base year compensation rules Dduren would count as only half his outgoing salary for salary matching purposes. So lets assume he got a contract starting at 40 million, he's count only 20 million outgoing. But since Brown makes 57 million the Pistons would have to send out at least 46 million to meet salary matching requirements, meaning they need to a at least 26 million more to a Duren offer. BUT aing 26 million more to Duren means the Celtics are actually taking on 66 million (40 for Duren + 26), meaning the C's would be adding 9 million in salary when they only have about 14 below the tax.

Basically there is only a very narrow range of salaries that would both A) Allow Detroit to salary match an B) Keep Boston below the tax.

Its not impossible, but it would be tricky.

Isn't DET under the cap? They can absorb some of that Jaylen salary without needing to send back money to Boston?

I am not sure how much of the difference they can absorb but I expect it would be a large chunk of it.

[keevsnick]

Duren in a S&T for Brown is actually hard to pull off financially. Because of base year compensation rules Dduren would count as only half his outgoing salary for salary matching purposes. So lets assume he got a contract starting at 40 million, he's count only 20 million outgoing. But since Brown makes 57 million the Pistons would have to send out at least 46 million to meet salary matching requirements, meaning they need to a at least 26 million more to a Duren offer. BUT aing 26 million more to Duren means the Celtics are actually taking on 66 million (40 for Duren + 26), meaning the C's would be adding 9 million in salary when they only have about 14 below the tax.

Basically there is only a very narrow range of salaries that would both A) Allow Detroit to salary match an B) Keep Boston below the tax.

Its not impossible, but it would be tricky.

Isn't DET under the cap? They can absorb some of that Jaylen salary without needing to send back money to Boston?

I am not sure how much of the difference they can absorb but I expect it would be a large chunk of it.

Detroit IS under the cap, but the issue is they are under the cap mostly because of Duren's cap hold. He has a 18.1 million dollar cap hold which gives the Pistons roughly 26 million in space, but if he signed a new contract starting at say 40 million that would eat up roughly 22 million of that space.   

[Who]

Duren in a S&T for Brown is actually hard to pull off financially. Because of base year compensation rules Dduren would count as only half his outgoing salary for salary matching purposes. So lets assume he got a contract starting at 40 million, he's count only 20 million outgoing. But since Brown makes 57 million the Pistons would have to send out at least 46 million to meet salary matching requirements, meaning they need to a at least 26 million more to a Duren offer. BUT aing 26 million more to Duren means the Celtics are actually taking on 66 million (40 for Duren + 26), meaning the C's would be adding 9 million in salary when they only have about 14 below the tax.

Basically there is only a very narrow range of salaries that would both A) Allow Detroit to salary match an B) Keep Boston below the tax.

Its not impossible, but it would be tricky.

Isn't DET under the cap? They can absorb some of that Jaylen salary without needing to send back money to Boston?

I am not sure how much of the difference they can absorb but I expect it would be a large chunk of it.

Detroit IS under the cap, but the issue is they are under the cap mostly because of Duren's cap hold. He has a 18.1 million dollar cap hold which gives the Pistons roughly 26 million in space, but if he signed a new contract starting at say 40 million that would eat up roughly 22 million of that space

Ah okay. I understand. Thank you.

[keevsnick]

Duren in a S&T for Brown is actually hard to pull off financially. Because of base year compensation rules Dduren would count as only half his outgoing salary for salary matching purposes. So lets assume he got a contract starting at 40 million, he's count only 20 million outgoing. But since Brown makes 57 million the Pistons would have to send out at least 46 million to meet salary matching requirements, meaning they need to a at least 26 million more to a Duren offer. BUT aing 26 million more to Duren means the Celtics are actually taking on 66 million (40 for Duren + 26), meaning the C's would be adding 9 million in salary when they only have about 14 below the tax.

Basically there is only a very narrow range of salaries that would both A) Allow Detroit to salary match an B) Keep Boston below the tax.

Its not impossible, but it would be tricky.

Isn't DET under the cap? They can absorb some of that Jaylen salary without needing to send back money to Boston?

I am not sure how much of the difference they can absorb but I expect it would be a large chunk of it.

Detroit IS under the cap, but the issue is they are under the cap mostly because of Duren's cap hold. He has a 18.1 million dollar cap hold which gives the Pistons roughly 26 million in space, but if he signed a new contract starting at say 40 million that would eat up roughly 22 million of that space

Ah okay. I understand. Thank you.

You aren't wrong about the cap space thing tho. It might actually just be easier for them to move off some salary like say Duncan Robinson and open up enough cap space to jut flat out absorb Brown rather than try to salary match with Boston.

Somebody better versed in the CBA than me would have to do the math on that.

[Celtics2021]

Duren in a S&T for Brown is actually hard to pull off financially. Because of base year compensation rules Dduren would count as only half his outgoing salary for salary matching purposes. So lets assume he got a contract starting at 40 million, he's count only 20 million outgoing. But since Brown makes 57 million the Pistons would have to send out at least 46 million to meet salary matching requirements, meaning they need to a at least 26 million more to a Duren offer. BUT aing 26 million more to Duren means the Celtics are actually taking on 66 million (40 for Duren + 26), meaning the C's would be adding 9 million in salary when they only have about 14 below the tax.

Basically there is only a very narrow range of salaries that would both A) Allow Detroit to salary match an B) Keep Boston below the tax.

Its not impossible, but it would be tricky.

Isn't DET under the cap? They can absorb some of that Jaylen salary without needing to send back money to Boston?

I am not sure how much of the difference they can absorb but I expect it would be a large chunk of it.

Detroit IS under the cap, but the issue is they are under the cap mostly because of Duren's cap hold. He has a 18.1 million dollar cap hold which gives the Pistons roughly 26 million in space, but if he signed a new contract starting at say 40 million that would eat up roughly 22 million of that space

Ah okay. I understand. Thank you.

You aren't wrong about the cap space thing tho. It might actually just be easier for them to move off some salary like say Duncan Robinson and open up enough cap space to jut flat out absorb Brown rather than try to salary match with Boston.

Somebody better versed in the CBA than me would have to do the math on that.

I think (but I am not positive because I am doing the math in my head while on the train coming home from work) that if they waived and stretched Duncan Robinson and included Ron Holland in the deal they would just have room.  But I could be off by a minimum-salary cap hold.  Generally, however, if they are not attached to Robinson they can waive or stretch him (since he has only $2 million of his nearly $16 million guaranteed) and it winds up being easier for Detroit to match with cap space than aggregating with the base-year compensation rules.   (This assumes they do things like processing the Isaiah Stewart and Isaiah Joe deals first, and use the room mid-level to sign Huerter rather than his Bird Rights).

[slightly biased bias fan]

Keon Ellis is leaving the Cavaliers and signing with the Brooklyn Nets on a 2-year, $18M deal, per ESPN.

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Shams Charania: Free agent guard Keon Ellis has agreed to a two-year, $18 million guaranteed deal with the Brooklyn Nets, sources tell ESPN.

Aw man. I would've liked to that deal.

I liked Keon Ellis as a 3+D starting SG for us.

G: D White, Pritchard
G: Keon Ellis, Baylor
F: Jaylen, Hauser
F: Tatum, Hugo / J Walsh
C: Queta, (FA - Drummond?)

A small SG but with elite quickness & athleticism. A very good defender. He can cover those smaller quicker guards at an elite level. Be that point of attack defender we lacked against Maxey & Edgecombe. While being a better shooter than our defensive wings (Hugo, J Walsh). A better combo of shooting & defense than our young wings offer.

[JBcat]

Shams Charania: Free agent guard Keon Ellis has agreed to a two-year, $18 million guaranteed deal with the Brooklyn Nets, sources tell ESPN.

Aw man. I would've liked to that deal.

I liked Keon Ellis as a 3+D starting SG for us.

G: D White, Pritchard
G: Keon Ellis, Baylor
F: Jaylen, Hauser
F: Tatum, Hugo / J Walsh
C: Queta, (FA - Drummond?)

A small SG but with elite quickness & athleticism. A very good defender. He can cover those smaller quicker guards at an elite level. Be that point of attack defender we lacked against Maxey & Edgecombe. While being a better shooter than our defensive wings (Hugo, J Walsh). A better combo of shooting & defense than our young wings offer.

He would have been a very nice fit.

[Who]

I wonder what Brooklyn's plans are for Keon Ellis. I still cannot make any sense out of that roster.

One option is to start him

G: Mikel Brown Jr
G: Keon Ellis
F: MPJ
F: J Randle
C: Dayron Sharpe

That could be a competitive group. Two scrappy defensive guards. A defensive big. Randle good two way player. MPJ the only minus defender. MPJ and Randle the two main scorers. Mikel Brown Jr the 3rd option.

2nd option - start Egor Demin

G: Egor Demin, Nolan Traore, Ben Saraf
G: Mikel Brown Jr, Keon Ellis, Drake Powell

So they have 6 guards there.

F: MPJ, Josh Minott, Terrence Mann
F: J Randle, Noah Clowney, Joshua Jefferson (#28 pick)
C: Dayron Sharpe, Danny Wolf

They have 6 forwards and 2 bigs as well.

14 roster spots filled.

They still need a backup center. They have been linked to Mitchell Robinson and Mo Wagner. So they will probably sign someone like that and use Danny Wolf as a 3rd stringer.

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Marc Stein: And: The more crucial factor, per a league source, is that Kristaps Porziņģis and the Warriors have done this deal as an extension rather than a Bird Rights contract.

Does anyone understand why it matters it is an extension rather than a bird right's deal?

Another twitter post said Porzingis is immediately available to be traded. Is that the only difference? GSW would have had to wait until Dec 15 to trade him if it is was a bird's right deal?

Keith Smith: Note on Kristaps Porzingis' new contract with the Warriors: This is an extension (and it's already official) vs a new deal. The deal also didn't include greater than a 5% raise from Year 1 to Year 2. That means that Porzingis is immediately trade-eligible. No restrictions.

[Who]

G: Egor Demin, Nolan Traore, Ben Saraf
G: Mikel Brown Jr, Keon Ellis, Drake Powell
F: MPJ, Josh Minott, Terrence Mann
F: J Randle, Noah Clowney, Joshua Jefferson (#28 pick)
C: Dayron Sharpe, Danny Wolf

That Joshua Jefferson guy has some impressive stats in college for Iowa. An older rookie. 4yr college guy. He had a couple of triple doubles. Looks a well rounded player.

16ppg 7.4rpg 4.8apg 1.6spg 0.8bpg

47% FG 34.5% 3PT on low volume. His 3PT shooting was worse in previous years (29% first 3 years). Only a 70% FT shooter. He did get to the foul line a lot though. 6 FTA on 12 FGA.

His advanced stats are huge. 7.0 OBPM 6.1 DBPM 13.1 base plus minus.

His stats read like a surprisingly well rounded basketball player for an end of 1st round pick. Defense = check. Rebounding = check. Passing & handles = check. Offense = middling.

Has anyone seen him play? Is he good? Could he crack the Nets rotation as a rookie?