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« Reply #420 on: Today at 07:26:32 AM »

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I wonder if BOS could have gotten LaMelo for a trade built around D White. D White is better than Naz Reid. Older though.

A big 3 of LaMelo, Jaylen, Tatum. Find role players. Let them go. LaMelo's playmaking would have opened up the offense and created more open shots for everyone.

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« Reply #421 on: Today at 07:36:49 AM »

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Jalen Duren plans to explore sign-and-trade scenarios after contract negotiations have stalled out with the Pistons, per
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There is a large enough gap in value from Duren?s camp and Detroit where he feels like it?s best to now play elsewhere.

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« Reply #422 on: Today at 07:41:15 AM »

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B Miller = 129 FGA at rim last season

Tatum = 295 FGA at rim in 2024-25. 405 FGA in 2023-24.
Jaylen = 268 FGA at rim in 2025-26. 259 FGA in 2024-25.

B Miller just doesn't get to the rim often enough. He plays more like a Klay Thompson. It shocking how little an athlete of B Miller's caliber gets to the basket for finishes / to the FT line.

J-Dub = 337 FGA at rim in 2024-25.

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B Ingram = 198 FGA at rim 2025-26. 157 FGA in 2023-24.

Ingram lives in that midrange. Takes a huge amount there. Struggles to get to rim. Not athletic enough. Not physically powerful enough. B Miller avoids the midrange. He takes 3s instead. Also not physically powerful enough to get all the way to the rim and finish. The B Ingram comp is interesting.

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K Durant is an interesting one. He had 368 FGA at rim in his prime (2016) down to only 89 rim attempts last year for Houston. Old man Durant. 89 attempts out of 1376 total FGA (6.5% of his shot attempts).

Mikal Bridges when he was the leading scorer for the Brooklyn Nets took 214 FGA at rim in 2024 and 228 FGA in 2023. Even he got to the rim more than B Miller and Mikal had no handles.

Trey Murphy is similar to Mikal Bridges in style of play. Limited handles and shot creation. He still got 221 FGA at rim last season. 189 the season before.

Franz Wagner injured last year. 267 FGA at rim in 2025.

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I am struggling to think of other athletic wings to compare B Miller to. These guys are a bit bigger. More PFs.

Siakam 270 FGA at rim. 335 the year before.
Avdija 335 FGA at rim. 279 year before.
Jalen Johnson 340 FGA at rim.
Banchero 367 FGA at rim.


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It really is shocking how little B Miller gets to the rim or the FT line. What is the value in all that athleticism if he cannot use it to get easier baskets for himself. Or others (limited passer). Everything is on the perimeter. So many pull up jump-shots.
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There really is nothing I want from Charlotte.

Miller and Reid would have to be in the deal. And still I would not like it. Nothing else is worth moving JB.

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« Reply #424 on: Today at 09:52:40 AM »

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If you can land Brandon Miller you do it, kids a great shooter with great size. He just needs to work on shot selection and getting to the line where he shoots 90%

I have been enamored by him since day 1.  Shows flashes but has missed a lot of time.

Obviously just my opinion but for me Miller reminds me of another Brandon, Ingram. He is intriguing, but the reality is that their elite upside is all theoretical.
I don?t see Ingram at all. Paul George, yes. Miller is a great athlete. Ingram is not at all.

Vertical leap is irrelevant.

Brandon Miller is 23 years old, this past season his defensive rating was 114.3 (average to poor).

When Paul George was 23 his defensive rating was 97 (All-NBA first team).

When Brandon Ingram was 23 his defensive rating was 115 (average to poor).

So Paul George was a better defender at age 23. So what. That doesn?t mean they aren?t similar. Certainly more similar than Ingram, that is for sure.
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Onto the next big man rumor the Cs are interested in

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Detroit Pistons are conveying that Jalen Duren will not be moved and are solely focused on coming to terms on an agreement to keep their All-Star center, league sources tell me.

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Onto the next big man rumor the Cs are interested in

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Detroit Pistons are conveying that Jalen Duren will not be moved and are solely focused on coming to terms on an agreement to keep their All-Star center, league sources tell me.

Good. If people thought our frontcourt performance was bad in the postseason (it was), Duren was absolutely awful. It's partially why DET isn't offering him a max, which I don't blame them.

Trading Jaylen for him would be a horrible move.
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« Reply #428 on: Today at 12:01:27 PM »

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Per Shams Charania, Celtics have asked teams for at least four first-round picks for Jaylen Brown.

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Just in: The Oklahoma City Thunder are trading sharpshooter Isaiah Joe to the Detroit Pistons for two future second-round picks, sources tell ESPN.

I don't think much of I Joe. He is a great shooter but he is a lousy defender. He is often unplayable due to matchups.

Good cap savings for OKC. They have done like I expected and dumped the contracts of A Wiggins and I Joe to give them more financial wiggle room. Not sure if this allows them to keep all of Hartenstein, Dort, Caruso. It might.

Good trade for OKC. Mediocre deal for DET. Probably better off keepin their cap space.

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Per Shams Charania, Celtics have asked teams for at least four first-round picks for Jaylen Brown.

Trying to copy the OKC Thunder mantra eh

Giannis went for 3, Bane went for 4, Mikal Bridges went for 5. It's not unreasonable.

But I mean, if they are fine trading Jaylen for basically role players and picks, that to me signals an even bigger retool and makes me wonder if this private equity ownership is involved. The Giannis stuff made sense, but a lot of these rumors/ideas since then don't. Most of us have posted ideas and tried to be creative but the reality is, most of these ideas don't make us better or maybe marginally do but that's it.

Yes the CBA is an issue, but why are they in a rush to trade Jaylen for pennies on the dollar? You're making the team worse by doing so probably for a few years too if you start to hitch your wagons on role players overperforming and draft picks helping sooner rather than later.

That's my fear, I think this Chisolm/private equity ownership is starting to have their say. They seem to want to get Jaylen off the books and continue cost cutting even around them.
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Per Shams Charania, Celtics have asked teams for at least four first-round picks for Jaylen Brown.

Trying to copy the OKC Thunder mantra eh

Giannis went for 3, Bane went for 4, Mikal Bridges went for 5. It's not unreasonable.

But I mean, if they are fine trading Jaylen for basically role players and picks, that to me signals an even bigger retool and makes me wonder if this private equity ownership is involved. The Giannis stuff made sense, but a lot of these rumors/ideas since then don't. Most of us have posted ideas and tried to be creative but the reality is, most of these ideas don't make us better or maybe marginally do but that's it.

Yes the CBA is an issue, but why are they in a rush to trade Jaylen for pennies on the dollar? You're making the team worse by doing so probably for a few years too if you start to hitch your wagons on role players overperforming and draft picks helping sooner rather than later.

That's my fear, I think this Chisolm/private equity ownership is starting to have their say. They seem to want to get Jaylen off the books and continue cost cutting even around them.

It seems like they view Tatum and Giannis as players worth a supermax. Brown, not so much. If they were just looking to cut salary; why try to make a move for Giannis.
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Per Shams Charania, Celtics have asked teams for at least four first-round picks for Jaylen Brown.

Trying to copy the OKC Thunder mantra eh

Giannis went for 3, Bane went for 4, Mikal Bridges went for 5. It's not unreasonable.

But I mean, if they are fine trading Jaylen for basically role players and picks, that to me signals an even bigger retool and makes me wonder if this private equity ownership is involved. The Giannis stuff made sense, but a lot of these rumors/ideas since then don't. Most of us have posted ideas and tried to be creative but the reality is, most of these ideas don't make us better or maybe marginally do but that's it.

Yes the CBA is an issue, but why are they in a rush to trade Jaylen for pennies on the dollar? You're making the team worse by doing so probably for a few years too if you start to hitch your wagons on role players overperforming and draft picks helping sooner rather than later.

That's my fear, I think this Chisolm/private equity ownership is starting to have their say. They seem to want to get Jaylen off the books and continue cost cutting even around them.

It seems like they view Tatum and Giannis as players worth a supermax. Brown, not so much. If they were just looking to cut salary; why try to make a move for Giannis.

Or, I would argue, they might view Tatum and maybe Giannis as worth more than a super max.  The supermax caps the salaries of some players at less than they would be able to otherwise get.  Brown can be fairly compensated while Tatum is undercompensated, because his salary is artificially deflated. That plus fit: The things Giannis does best might (and I think most argue does) fit better with what the team needs than what JB does.  The Celtics were willing to attach a couple of late firsts to receive that better fit, but it does not necessarily mean that Giannis intrinsically has more value than JB, and there could very well be teams across the league that would prefer JB given their own roster construction.

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Per Shams Charania, Celtics have asked teams for at least four first-round picks for Jaylen Brown.

Trying to copy the OKC Thunder mantra eh

Giannis went for 3, Bane went for 4, Mikal Bridges went for 5. It's not unreasonable.

But I mean, if they are fine trading Jaylen for basically role players and picks, that to me signals an even bigger retool and makes me wonder if this private equity ownership is involved. The Giannis stuff made sense, but a lot of these rumors/ideas since then don't. Most of us have posted ideas and tried to be creative but the reality is, most of these ideas don't make us better or maybe marginally do but that's it.

Yes the CBA is an issue, but why are they in a rush to trade Jaylen for pennies on the dollar? You're making the team worse by doing so probably for a few years too if you start to hitch your wagons on role players overperforming and draft picks helping sooner rather than later.

That's my fear, I think this Chisolm/private equity ownership is starting to have their say. They seem to want to get Jaylen off the books and continue cost cutting even around them.

It seems like they view Tatum and Giannis as players worth a supermax. Brown, not so much. If they were just looking to cut salary; why try to make a move for Giannis.

Or, I would argue, they might view Tatum and maybe Giannis as worth more than a super max.  The supermax caps the salaries of some players at less than they would be able to otherwise get.  Brown can be fairly compensated while Tatum is undercompensated, because his salary is artificially deflated. That plus fit: The things Giannis does best might (and I think most argue does) fit better with what the team needs than what JB does.  The Celtics were willing to attach a couple of late firsts to receive that better fit, but it does not necessarily mean that Giannis intrinsically has more value than JB, and there could very well be teams across the league that would prefer JB given their own roster construction.

No one is choosing JB over Giannis. He is a two time MVP. If you get GA you make the team fit around him. You don't do that with JB. They are on completely different levels.
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« Reply #434 on: Today at 01:24:30 PM »

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Or, I would argue, they might view Tatum and maybe Giannis as worth more than a super max.  The supermax caps the salaries of some players at less than they would be able to otherwise get.  Brown can be fairly compensated while Tatum is undercompensated, because his salary is artificially deflated.

I reckon an MVP is worth around $200 million per year. Basically the entire salary cap.

I don't know what I would value Tatum at. $100mil? $125mil? That is the ball-park. So he is not just underpaid but hugely underpaid.