Derrick White Trade Ideas Thread

[Phantom255x]

There is one for Jaylen, I thought of creating one for White. I personally think the way to go is trade White, Hauser, and/or picks in 1-2 different deals to both add another big man to PP/Jaylen/Tatum/Queta, and to also open up some more playing time for others like Baylor if Hauser gets shipped out in a trade (or basically just salary dumped). White + Hauser make a combined 40M, so you could essentially have 40M to play with in terms of what you get back and any other cheaper FA signings mixed in.

What ideas do people have?

I'm thinking of guys like Naz Reid of the Wolves, or Sabonis from the Kings, or even potentially a deal with the Nets where the C's get back Claxton and another role player.

Kessler has always been my dream target from Utah but idk if the Jazz would even trade him, or if he's part of their core. Also not sure if they'd want White in a trade if they are truly going full youth and White turns 32 next year, but in theory he could be a nice veteran to add and help them grow too.

[Who]

I am not sure there are any D White trades that make this team better. D White is a guy with more on-court value than trade value. If we were to trade him, trading him for youth / prospects / picks would likely be the best path but that is a rebuilding trade not a contending trade.

D White is a great glue guy. Teams tend not to give up stars for glue guys. Yet, D White is much more valuable than most other glue guys. It is hard to get an equal return for him.

[Who]

I'm thinking of guys like Naz Reid of the Wolves, or Sabonis from the Kings, or even potentially a deal with the Nets where the C's get back Claxton and another role player.

(1) Naz Reid = I wouldn't trade White for Naz Reid. Naz is a solid scoring PF. Or a solid scoring bench PF/C. But he isn't a starting center. His defense is too bad. Particulary his team D. Minnesota's defense tends to die whenever Gobert isn't on the court to keep their interior defense together. That is because Naz doesn't play much D.

(2) Nic Claxton or other centers like him who I would describe as no offense / all defense players (Kessler is another one). Basic rim runners with little to no offensive skill. I am not trading D White for a defense-only player. It must be a two way player.

(3) D Sabonis is a consideration. He is somewhat of a one-way player as well but a more dynamic one. His passing is exceptional. He can shoot. He can drive. He can post. He can rebound. He can't play defense. My biggest concern with him has been his poor play in the playoffs for Sacramento. He has been very good in the regular season but underwhelming in the playoffs.

I trust D White more in a playoff game than D Sabonis. I am not sure I make that deal.

[Who]

Trey Murphy was talked about in another thread as a trade target. He would be someone I would consider trading D White for. A two way player. A good offensive player and a very good defensive player. More of a scorer less of facilitator than D White.

I doubt NOP would be interested in 32yo D White though given the early stage of the rebuild they are currently in. White would be a nice fit on their team. Play a two PG backcourt to help co-ordinate the offense.

G: D Murray, J Fears
G: D White
F: Herb Jones
F: Zion, S Bey
C: D Queen, Y Missi

[Who]

I am trying to think of guards you could trade D White for.

Point guards = there are about 10-12 star PGs in the league. I don't think White gets you any of those guys. And White is the next best PG in the league. So anybody else would be a downgrade.

Shooting guards = Bane. Swap D White's all round brilliance for the superior shooting & scoring of Bane. But I doubt ORL would trade Bane so soon after giving up so many draft picks for him. I am not sure there is any other SG in the league I would consider. A couple of stars in Ant, A Reaves (FA), S Castle who they wouldn't give up for White. Knueppel too young and valuable for White. White is probably the next best SG in the league alongside Bane. Anybody else would be a downgrade.

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Ohh, I got one ... that will make people (un)happy:

D White for Kyrie Irving.

Dallas are likely to rebuild and move on from White. That would make Kyrie one of the few star guards that might be gettable for White. I am not sure if Dallas would be interested in White if they are going full youth. But if they were, D White would likely be a competitive offer. I don't think Dallas will get offered much for Kyrie. Likely offers less than D White.

Kyrie similar to D Bane in this sense. Swapping D White's all round brilliance for superior scoring / shooting. Kyrie more one-on-one offense than Bane. Less size on defense.

[Goldstar88]

I am not sure there are any D White trades that make this team better. D White is a guy with more on-court value than trade value. If we were to trade him, trading him for youth / prospects / picks would likely be the best path but that is a rebuilding trade not a contending trade.

D White is a great glue guy. Teams tend not to give up stars for glue guys. Yet, D White is much more valuable than most other glue guys. It is hard to get an equal return for him.

Knocked it out of the park, Who. White was also named by his peers as the most underrated player in the NBA. Not someone I would trade.

[Who]

Gobert is the one defense-only center I would consider giving up D White for. The reason being his defensive impact is much larger than the other defense-only centers.

However, Gobert is about to turn 34yo so he is 2yrs older than D White and guys like Gobert tend to fall off a cliff around this period in their careers. I am not sure how well he would age. That could backfire spectacularly.

I feel confident about D White aging well because he is a big PG who can transition to playing SG full time. He could have another 4-5 years of strong play in him.

[Who]

D White for Julius Randle

Minnesota

G: D White, Bones Hyland
G: Ant-man, Donsunmu
F: Jaden McDaniels, Terrence Shannon
F: Naz Reid, Slow Mo
C: Gobert, Joan Beringer

Minnesota fixes their guard problems. They elevate Naz Reid to a starting role. They have good young bench players on the perimeter. Slow Mo is an adequate backup PF. Joan Beringer is a good long term prospect at center but may or may not be ready to play a role next season.

Boston

G: Pritchard, (FA)
G: Jaylen, Baylor
F: Tatum, Hugo
F: Randle, J Walsh
C: Queta, (FA)

Boston adds more beef. More physicality. Becomes less 3 point heavy. Now has 3 isolation guys SG, SF, PF. A point forward in Tatum. Lots of rebounding. Pritchard the only true guard on the roster.

[Ilikesports17]

Money makes it impossible but I think something Castle for White based could be interesting. Castle gives us some of that rim pressure and explosion Brad talked about.

Hes reckless out there right now. Way too many turnovers and low IQ plays. White's only weaknesses as a player are that he struggles to get to the rim and he struggles to stay in front of quick guards. With Harper and Fox as the other guards and Wemby protecting the rim those weaknesses go to zero. Fox and Harper will be covering the quick guys and if he gets beat it doesnt matter at all. Wemby is gonna block it. On offense they have a surplus of penetration with Fox and Harper. Hed be so great there. Hed make his cuts, be that elite connective passer, and play perfect team defense.

The issue would be one of Harper/White/Fox has to come off the bench. Castle would too if they kept him, but easier to bench your 21 year old than a 31 year old making 30 mil.

[A Future of Stevens]

Money makes it impossible but I think something Castle for White based could be interesting. Castle gives us some of that rim pressure and explosion Brad talked about.

Hes reckless out there right now. Way too many turnovers and low IQ plays. White's only weaknesses as a player are that he struggles to get to the rim and he struggles to stay in front of quick guards. With Harper and Fox as the other guards and Wemby protecting the rim those weaknesses go to zero. Fox and Harper will be covering the quick guys and if he gets beat it doesnt matter at all. Wemby is gonna block it. On offense they have a surplus of penetration with Fox and Harper. Hed be so great there. Hed make his cuts, be that elite connective passer, and play perfect team defense.

The issue would be one of Harper/White/Fox has to come off the bench. Castle would too if they kept him, but easier to bench your 21 year old than a 31 year old making 30 mil.

We would have to add a bunch of 1sts and they would still probably say no. They are comparable in impact right now, but SA has to view Castle as part of that core.

[moiso]

Money makes it impossible but I think something Castle for White based could be interesting. Castle gives us some of that rim pressure and explosion Brad talked about.

Hes reckless out there right now. Way too many turnovers and low IQ plays. White's only weaknesses as a player are that he struggles to get to the rim and he struggles to stay in front of quick guards. With Harper and Fox as the other guards and Wemby protecting the rim those weaknesses go to zero. Fox and Harper will be covering the quick guys and if he gets beat it doesnt matter at all. Wemby is gonna block it. On offense they have a surplus of penetration with Fox and Harper. Hed be so great there. Hed make his cuts, be that elite connective passer, and play perfect team defense.

The issue would be one of Harper/White/Fox has to come off the bench. Castle would too if they kept him, but easier to bench your 21 year old than a 31 year old making 30 mil.

San Antonio already traded White in order to get a guy like Castle and it has worked out perfectly for them.  They would not want a guy over 10 yearas older.  Castle is very sloppy with the ball but that will improve.  He's still a baby.  The ball might be in his hands too much right now with Fox out.

[jambr380]

I am not sure there are any D White trades that make this team better. D White is a guy with more on-court value than trade value. If we were to trade him, trading him for youth / prospects / picks would likely be the best path but that is a rebuilding trade not a contending trade.

D White is a great glue guy. Teams tend not to give up stars for glue guys. Yet, D White is much more valuable than most other glue guys. It is hard to get an equal return for him.

Knocked it out of the park, Who. White was also named by his peers as the most underrated player in the NBA. Not someone I would trade.

Yeah, I think I just rate White a lot higher than others. I started a thread last night (which unfortunately didn't get a lot of engagement outside of Who and DWC) basically comparing White's and Brown's on court value using on/off and how White is basically one of the best in the league in this category.

I know he's older, I know he's not necessarily flashy, but he is from the same draft class as Tatum (so less mileage) and his game seems like it will age incredibly well. I do hope he can get his 3-ball right again, but even without that, he was still an incredible positive for the Celtics this year. And, imo, the biggest reason outside of Mazzulla why the team performed so well.

The only packages I would trade White in would make me sound delusional.

[Vermont Green]

I don't see any viable White trades and from reading through the ideas here, I would say that nobody else is coming up with any either.  White is an enigmatic player.  His +/- or on/off stats defy his other stats every season.  Last season he was forced to try and be a #2 and it became clear that he is better suited to be a #3, a complementary player.

White may get traded eventually but it will be when the team is deconstructing.  Trade him to a contending team looking for that one final piece and get back picks or younger players.  It make no sense to do that kind of trade now.

[Moranis]

He needs to go to a contender or fringe contender. 

The best trade I could come up with is Detroit and something like this

White, 27

for

Holland, Jenkins, 21, LeVert/Robinson, 2027 2nd

The veteran is there for the money, I'd prefer LeVert because he expires a year earlier though DRob is a better player and fit.  You get 2 going to be 3rd year players that have shown some promise and move up in the draft.  Holland could be a wing stopper and Jenkins can provide some flair at the PG spot.  The key to the trade is Holland.  Boston would have to believe in him as a long term starter for the trade to make sense.  And I know 2024 was a weak draft but he was a top 5 pick for a reason.  There is talent there and he is still just 20 years old. 

[DefenseWinsChamps]

He needs to go to a contender or fringe contender. 

The best trade I could come up with is Detroit and something like this

White, 27

for

Holland, Jenkins, 21, LeVert/Robinson, 2027 2nd

The veteran is there for the money, I'd prefer LeVert because he expires a year earlier though DRob is a better player and fit.  You get 2 going to be 3rd year players that have shown some promise and move up in the draft.  Holland could be a wing stopper and Jenkins can provide some flair at the PG spot.  The key to the trade is Holland.  Boston would have to believe in him as a long term starter for the trade to make sense.  And I know 2024 was a weak draft but he was a top 5 pick for a reason.  There is talent there and he is still just 20 years old.

This trade depends on what you think of Holland and Jenkins. I don't think much of them.