Detroit Pistons. A Jalen Duren sign-and-trade might make some sense, but it is hard to see either side moving forward with that.

Houston Rockets. Brown-for-Kevin Durant is a hard no from the Celtics. Unless the Rockets start with Alerpen Sengun (unlikely), it?s hard to find a deal.

Minnesota Timberwolves. Rudy Gobert would be a fascinating guy to drop into Boston?s 3-point-happy system. Worth considering but the Celtics would need more, and the Wolves probably wouldn?t give it.

Duren would be a tricky fit CBA-wise.  Pistons would need to use cap space to fit in Jaylen, and while they can manufacture a fair bit, they would have to let some free agents walk, cut a bunch of non-guaranteed salaries, including players currently in their rotation, and even then would need to another $10 or so million. 

I am not sure either team is interested, and it is a very high cost capwise for Detroit.

Glad we have another JB thread.  But it is actually interesting.  As the wheels turn it could get pretty exciting if there is a bit of bidding war/  Could be that the further we slip away from the Philly series, JBs value shifts back to it's pre-Philly series level - undoubtedly his highest trade value ever.  Be interesting to bring Murray here - as it may be a better 1-2 fit with JT, but I'd wonder if Denver would need to send more.  JB has to be viewed right now as  top ten player and the first number in his age is still a 2 - till October anyway.  Im good with Giannis if Brad thinks its the right move.   I agree with Phantom that we should stay away from Kawhi.  I think SA would be smart to try to make a good offer for JB.  A team with a lot of young assets and a team who benefit a ton from a top tier veteran like JB.  I've never loved Fox but admittedly I haven't seen much of him the past couple of years.  Definitely talented and maybe a good fit with JT.  Again, it would be what else would SA send to Boston.

Minnesota Timberwolves. Rudy Gobert would be a fascinating guy to drop into Boston?s 3-point-happy system. Worth considering but the Celtics would need more, and the Wolves probably wouldn?t give it.

Rudy is getting old. About to turn 34yo in a month's time.

Can't see the Nuggets trading Murray for Brown. They already lack perimeter playmaking.

M Turner has zero trade value.   I doubt CLE would trade both Allen and Mobley.   This would be a huge devalue down low for the CAVS trading for Turner.   They would not win a title with this trade and would be demonstratively worse.

Quote from: Celtics4ever on Yesterday at 09:50:04 AM

M Turner has zero trade value.   I doubt CLE would trade both Allen and Mobley.   This would be a huge devalue down low for the CAVS trading for Turner.   They would not win a title with this trade and would be demonstratively worse.

If that's true, then the Celtics should trade him into our TPE for nothing.

He was the starting center and a core contributor on a finals team that went toe-to-toe (by himself) with Holgrem and Hartenstein.

He can be underwhelming sometimes, but there is no denying that he can be a contributor to a playoff team.

Then the question becomes is he worth getting back into the tax for, because trading him into our TPE still adds to our salary cap - and eventually having to cost our (estimated) $50m worth of extensions for PP, Baylor, Garza, Queta and Walsh in 2027-28 an extra $40m in tax (from $120m to $160m) because we didn't get to reset our repeater rate. I know, it's only money, once you start talking in millions it loses its meaning 

Quote from: DefenseWinsChamps on Yesterday at 10:03:20 AM

Quote from: Celtics4ever on Yesterday at 09:50:04 AM

M Turner has zero trade value.   I doubt CLE would trade both Allen and Mobley.   This would be a huge devalue down low for the CAVS trading for Turner.   They would not win a title with this trade and would be demonstratively worse.

If that's true, then the Celtics should trade him into our TPE for nothing.

He was the starting center and a core contributor on a finals team that went toe-to-toe (by himself) with Holgrem and Hartenstein.

He can be underwhelming sometimes, but there is no denying that he can be a contributor to a playoff team.

Then the question becomes is he worth getting back into the tax for, because trading him into our TPE still adds to our salary cap - and eventually having to cost our (estimated) $50m worth of extensions for PP, Baylor, Garza, Queta and Walsh in 2027-28 an extra $40m in tax (from $120m to $160m) because we didn't get to reset our repeater rate. I know, it's only money, once you start talking in millions it loses its meaning 

If we offload Hauser, then you can do both. I'm not a big Turner fan, but acknowledge that he does fill a need and does have valuable deep playoff experience.

Right now with all of 14 of our roster spots accounted for, we have around $13M in cap space. If you remove Shulga, that is $15M, but then you immediately replace him with Turner (26.5M), and that is $11.5M over. Hauser makes $11M next year, so it's as easy as trading one minimum at the deadline, and then filling that spot with a prorated player. Banton has a hold at $2.8M - even easier in that case.

This isn't accounting for any possible Jaylen or White trade and it's not my preference, but it is doable to get under the tax and acquire Turner if we're willing to sacrifice Hauser. No MLE at this point either