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Re: Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas
« Reply #90 on: Today at 09:06:47 AM »

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Our picks do not hold much value really given our record either.

I would prefer to deal directly with Houston if we are trading Brown.

Re: Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas
« Reply #91 on: Today at 03:17:34 PM »

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Rockets receive: Brown, Turner
Bucks receive: Sengun, Reed, DFS, 1-2 Celtics picks
Celtics receive: Giannis, Smith

If the Rockets want to compete for a championship, a starting lineup of Turner-Durant-Brown-Thompson-FVV would look pretty good on paper. Having a playoff-tested shooting 5 mitigates a lot of the issues with having Thompson on the court. Plus, this cleans house from a couple of the guys that Durant considered unreliable in his burner account.

Celtics get Giannis, but they also get a young shooting big to pair with him and keep the court open for him and Tatum. Giannis gets to play with the best player he ever has, and the Cetlics compete for championships. Tatum-Smith-Giannis-White-Pritchard is a pretty good starting core.

Bucks get a young All-star big that could flourish as the focal point of their offense. They also get a good young guard that can score and reclamation project in DFS. I prefer this trade package to the one that the Heat are rumored to be offering, and I slightly prefer it to either the Hawks or the Blazers probable offers.

I would rather have Myles Turner than Jabari Smith Jr as a big man pairing for Giannis.

M Turner is a legit center. Jabari isn't. He is a forward. He is a combo forward like Tatum or Siakam. A PF/SF. Jabari isn't comfortable being the defensive anchor / rim protector. He likes to defend on the perimeter. He isn't strong enough physically. He gets overpowered by centers. Both defensively and on the boards.

Giannis could defend centers but I don't know if he would. He certainly doesn't want to. He has always wanted a true center next to him who does that physical work so he doesn't have the wear and tear. And it allows him to roam on defense which is his main strength defensively.

So for those reasons, I see Myles Turner as the better fit with Giannis than Jabari Smith Jr is. 

Re: Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas
« Reply #92 on: Today at 04:16:59 PM »

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Rockets receive: Brown, Turner
Bucks receive: Sengun, Reed, DFS, 1-2 Celtics picks
Celtics receive: Giannis, Smith

If the Rockets want to compete for a championship, a starting lineup of Turner-Durant-Brown-Thompson-FVV would look pretty good on paper. Having a playoff-tested shooting 5 mitigates a lot of the issues with having Thompson on the court. Plus, this cleans house from a couple of the guys that Durant considered unreliable in his burner account.

Celtics get Giannis, but they also get a young shooting big to pair with him and keep the court open for him and Tatum. Giannis gets to play with the best player he ever has, and the Cetlics compete for championships. Tatum-Smith-Giannis-White-Pritchard is a pretty good starting core.

Bucks get a young All-star big that could flourish as the focal point of their offense. They also get a good young guard that can score and reclamation project in DFS. I prefer this trade package to the one that the Heat are rumored to be offering, and I slightly prefer it to either the Hawks or the Blazers probable offers.

I would rather have Myles Turner than Jabari Smith Jr as a big man pairing for Giannis.

M Turner is a legit center. Jabari isn't. He is a forward. He is a combo forward like Tatum or Siakam. A PF/SF. Jabari isn't comfortable being the defensive anchor / rim protector. He likes to defend on the perimeter. He isn't strong enough physically. He gets overpowered by centers. Both defensively and on the boards.

Giannis could defend centers but I don't know if he would. He certainly doesn't want to. He has always wanted a true center next to him who does that physical work so he doesn't have the wear and tear. And it allows him to roam on defense which is his main strength defensively.

So for those reasons, I see Myles Turner as the better fit with Giannis than Jabari Smith Jr is.

I would prefer that too. Just a different iteration if Houston is looking to offload some of the players that Durant had problems with.

I'm probably a bit higher on Smith Jr. than I should be. I see a guy that could be comparable to Evan Mobley. He hasn't shown that type of production, but I like the intangibles, how hard he plays, athleticism, and shooting.

Re: Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas
« Reply #93 on: Today at 04:35:08 PM »

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Rockets receive: Brown, Turner, (+ Hauser)
Bucks receive: Sengun, Reed, DFS, 1-2 Celtics picks
Celtics receive: Giannis, Smith

I don't believe that trade even works.  BOS would have to send Hauser to HOU to keep BOS under the 1st apron and allow them to take back Smith using the TPE.  It still ends up adding about $14M to BOS cap, eating up a lot of BOS tax room.  Turner makes even more than Smith so if you swap those two, BOS would be flirting with the 1st apron.

I don't mind getting Giannis and Smith for Brown and Hauser and a couple of picks.  Add 1 pick to Brown to equal Giannis and then one to Hauser to equal Smith.  Maybe HOU sends a pick to MIL and this works.  But I don't see BOS taking on that much salary.

Re: Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas
« Reply #94 on: Today at 04:37:06 PM »

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Rockets receive: Brown, Turner, (+ Hauser)
Bucks receive: Sengun, Reed, DFS, 1-2 Celtics picks
Celtics receive: Giannis, Smith

I don't believe that trade even works.  BOS would have to send Hauser to HOU to keep BOS under the 1st apron and allow them to take back Smith using the TPE.  It still ends up adding about $14M to BOS cap, eating up a lot of BOS tax room.  Turner makes even more than Smith so if you swap those two, BOS would be flirting with the 1st apron.

I don't mind getting Giannis and Smith for Brown and Hauser and a couple of picks.  Add 1 pick to Brown to equal Giannis and then one to Hauser to equal Smith.  Maybe HOU sends a pick to MIL and this works.  But I don't see BOS taking on that much salary.

That would be a solid return. I like Smith Jr.
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