Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas

[Moranis]

The Atlanta trade I proposed was Okongwu, NAW, Risacher, and 7 for Brown and 27.  Draft Flemings at 7.

The Houston trade I proposed was Sengun, Sheppard, DFS for Brown, Garza, Scheierman.

A few others that i think make sense but are a bit more out of left field

Kawhi for Brown

Murray, Valanciunas for Brown, Garza

Randle, McDaniels for Brown

Miller, Bridges, Mann for Brown

Thompson, Holland, Stewart, Robinson for Brown, Scheierman, Garza

Siakam, Walker for Brown

Varying types of trades, but I think they do all make sense depending on what Boston is trying to do and for the team acquiring Brown.

I know you have mentioned that Hawks one but that is maybe my least favorite out of all of these. I personally think the Celtics are in win now mode and should be. Tatum is not young anymore. That Hawks trade feels like a roll of the dice for the long term but no doubt worse in the short term. Risacher could not get playoff minutes on the Hawks and I do not think has potential left really unfortunately. Okongwu and NAW are solid players but they are depth pieces. It all comes down to is that 7th pick an all star. The problem is even if whoever we pick is an all star that likely does not happen immediately and we just cannot be wasting the prime years of Tatum.

I am kind of surprised you want that trade the most since I feel you really understand and push how much star talent matters and there is no doubt we are trading the best player in that deal. All the others are no doubt interesting and I am not as opposed to trading Brown now as I was a few years ago. TP for all the other potential suggestions!

I think NAW is a lot better than a depth piece.  He averaged 20.8 plg with a TS% of 61%. He just needed minutes and a real chance, which he got in Atlanta. 

[Birdman]

Please no Kevin Durant, Jimmy Butler or Kawhi Leonard trade

[Who]

The Atlanta trade I proposed was Okongwu, NAW, Risacher, and 7 for Brown and 27.  Draft Flemings at 7.

The Houston trade I proposed was Sengun, Sheppard, DFS for Brown, Garza, Scheierman.

A few others that i think make sense but are a bit more out of left field

Kawhi for Brown

Murray, Valanciunas for Brown, Garza

Randle, McDaniels for Brown

Miller, Bridges, Mann for Brown

Thompson, Holland, Stewart, Robinson for Brown, Scheierman, Garza

Siakam, Walker for Brown

Varying types of trades, but I think they do all make sense depending on what Boston is trying to do and for the team acquiring Brown.

I know you have mentioned that Hawks one but that is maybe my least favorite out of all of these. I personally think the Celtics are in win now mode and should be. Tatum is not young anymore. That Hawks trade feels like a roll of the dice for the long term but no doubt worse in the short term. Risacher could not get playoff minutes on the Hawks and I do not think has potential left really unfortunately. Okongwu and NAW are solid players but they are depth pieces. It all comes down to is that 7th pick an all star. The problem is even if whoever we pick is an all star that likely does not happen immediately and we just cannot be wasting the prime years of Tatum.

I am kind of surprised you want that trade the most since I feel you really understand and push how much star talent matters and there is no doubt we are trading the best player in that deal. All the others are no doubt interesting and I am not as opposed to trading Brown now as I was a few years ago. TP for all the other potential suggestions!

I think NAW is a lot better than a depth piece.  He averaged 20.8 plg with a TS% of 61%. He just needed minutes and a real chance, which he got in Atlanta.

NAW also only averaged 13.7ppg in the playofs on 52.8% TS.

Oddly enough he shot 42% on 3s with 7.2 3PTA out of 11.8 FGA per game. He just couldn't make 2s. He was 5-10 in the paint. 2-7 on short shots. 0-6 on midrangers. 2-5 on long twos. Overall, 9-28 on two point shots. 4-18 on shots not at the rim.

It is not clear how good a scorer he truly is.

I view him a starting guard but he has only 1 good scoring season in his career and it came in his 7th season. On the plus side, it sounds like he is a tremendous worker who has earned his way to this big uptick in performance. But for the previous 6 years he was a 3+D guard.

Most of his scoring came on an ATL team that lacked viable alternatives. Trae Young was injured most of the season. Then McCollum came in after the trade deadline. The only other 20ppg threat on the roster was Jalen Johnson. NAW got to take as many shots as he wanted. More than he would have gotten on other teams.

Stick him on a team with more scoring options, does he score as much? Is he still a 20ppg guy? Or is he a 17-18ppg guy? Or does he go back to being a 14-16ppg? I don't know.

Or have him come here to BOS to replace Jaylen Brown as the 2nd option, does he no-show in the playoffs again? Give us only 13ppg?

We do not know how good / reliable a scorer NAW truly is.

[Vermont Green]

Please no Kevin Durant, Jimmy Butler or Kawhi Leonard trade

Agree completely.  Shelf life has expired on all of these.  All great players with great careers, but too much of that is all behind them now.   I would way rather have Brown than any of them at this point.

[Who]

Murray, Valanciunas for Brown, Garza

My first reaction is no to Jamal Murray for Jaylen but I am curious enough to wonder what our team might look like with J Murray.

G: J Murray, Pritchard
G: D White, Baylor
F: Hauser, Hugo
F: Tatum, J Walsh
C: Queta, Jonas Valanciunas

Jonas Valanciunas is a worse version of what Vucevic is. I'd rather just keep Vucevic. Vooch is actually more mobile defensively than Jonas is. Jonas would give us a bit more post D and rim protection but not enough to tilt in his favour. Especially given Vucevic is much better offensively. I'd rather just keep Vooch.

I wonder if there is a better piece that DEN could put in the deal instead of Jonas that would make the deal more appealing. I don't think there is. Peyton Watson is a FA. C Braun got paid big bucks. Maybe Cam Johnson? Extend the trade and include Hauser. Have Cam Johnson replace Hauser.

G: J Murray, Pritchard
G: D White, Baylor
F: Cam Johnson, Hugo
F: Tatum, J Walsh
C: Queta, (FA or Vooch)

I love the backcourt with J Murray, D White and Pritchard. Awesome. One of the best backcourts in the league. Loads of shooting, ball-handling and good passing.

The frontcourt looks light. Tatum looks all on his own there at forward. Nobody else that can be truly relied on. Cam Johnson a bit of a soft touch. Played more like a role player on DEN than he did in BKN. Probably be the same here. Still, a better role player than Hauser is. Hugo and J Walsh still question marks in terms of ready they are to contribute. Queta a limited but effective center. Not much help there for JT without Jaylen. Not much physicality.

I prefer the team with Jaylen. Just add a role player guard.

[jambr380]

I wonder if there is a better piece that DEN could put in the deal instead of Jonas that would make the deal more appealing. I don't think there is. Peyton Watson is a FA. C Braun got paid big bucks. Maybe Cam Johnson? Extend the trade and include Hauser. Have Cam Johnson replace Hauser.

This is a good call. I don't particularly want this trade to happen, but it would be a lot more palatable with Cam Johnson than it would with Jonas. I still definitely prefer Jaylen to Murray

[Vermont Green]

Murray, Valanciunas for Brown, Garza

My first reaction is no to Jamal Murray for Jaylen but I am curious enough to wonder what our team might look like with J Murray.

G: J Murray, Pritchard
G: D White, Baylor
F: Hauser, Hugo
F: Tatum, J Walsh
C: Queta, Jonas Valanciunas

Jonas Valanciunas is a worse version of what Vucevic is. I'd rather just keep Vucevic. Vooch is actually more mobile defensively than Jonas is. Jonas would give us a bit more post D and rim protection but not enough to tilt in his favour. Especially given Vucevic is much better offensively. I'd rather just keep Vooch.

I wonder if there is a better piece that DEN could put in the deal instead of Jonas that would make the deal more appealing. I don't think there is. Peyton Watson is a FA. C Braun got paid big bucks. Maybe Cam Johnson? Extend the trade and include Hauser. Have Cam Johnson replace Hauser.

G: J Murray, Pritchard
G: D White, Baylor
F: Cam Johnson, Hugo
F: Tatum, J Walsh
C: Queta, (FA or Vooch)

I love the backcourt with J Murray, D White and Pritchard. Awesome. One of the best backcourts in the league. Loads of shooting, ball-handling and good passing.

The frontcourt looks light. Tatum looks all on his own there at forward. Nobody else that can be truly relied on. Cam Johnson a bit of a soft touch. Played more like a role player on DEN than he did in BKN. Probably be the same here. Still, a better role player than Hauser is. Hugo and J Walsh still question marks in terms of ready they are to contribute. Queta a limited but effective center. Not much help there for JT without Jaylen. Not much physicality.

I prefer the team with Jaylen. Just add a role player guard.

It appears you came to the same conclusion that I have.  I like Jamal Murry, he would add more ball handling and shooting as compared to Brown but it seems he has to be right physically or he diminishes significantly.  And the problem is that he isn't "right" enough of the time.  I would want more from DEN for sure and it does not seem like the pieces are there.

[Celtics4ever]

Send Jaylen back home  to ATL.   This stuff is not always realistic but it is fun.


Hawks Acquire...
+ $8.1M

    Jaylen Brown
    Small Forward
    $53,142,264
    + 3 yr, $183,045,576

Financial details

This team will be a 1st apron (hard-capped) team after this trade has been completed.
Outgoing Cap
$45,000,000
Allowable Incoming Cap
$56,500,000
Incoming Cap
$53,142,264
Cap Difference
$-8,142,264
You are under the allowable incoming by $3,357,736.
Pass
Celtics Acquire...
- $8.1M

    Jalen Johnson
    Small Forward
    $30,000,000
    + 4 yr, $120,000,000
    Onyeka Okongwu
    Center
    $15,000,000
    + 2 yr, $32,980,000

Financial details

This team will be a 2nd apron (hard-capped) team after this trade has been completed.
Outgoing Cap
$53,142,264
Allowable Incoming Cap
$66,677,830
Incoming Cap
$45,000,000
Cap Difference
$8,142,264
You are under the allowable incoming by $21,677,830.
Pass

I would ask for draft pick, too, from them.  Though I doubt they would give us 7.   Maybe a pick swap from 27 to 23.  Sign Ayo Dosunmu for guard help and rock on.


We gain more size and athleticism.  ATL gets a massive home town draw to the games.  We get quality starters for one great starter, get younger and I think this trade would make both teams happier.   

Onyeka Okongwu is a big small and listed at  6'8" on some sites and 6'10" on others.  Great switching ability.

[Celtics4ever]

Mobley and Merrill

  I would love to get Mobley.  I think Merrill is a dud.  Easy pass but he is the only contract that works with getting Mobley in many cases.   We already have cheaper guys who with more playing time would eclipse Merrill.