Time for a change?

[Celtics4ever]

Theoretically KP would be a great compliment to Giannis, as a big who can shoot the three and open up the lane.

His health is terrifying.  He played in 15 games last year.  17 games the year before. 42 games the year before.  For his career he has played 523 of a possible 820 games.  That is roughly 64% of games and he is getting older and has a medical concern.


https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/porzikr01.html

He has POTS.POTS (Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome) is not a heart disease and is not life-threatening. However, it is a serious and sometimes debilitating neurological condition affecting the autonomic nervous system, which can significantly disrupt your daily life and requires careful, ongoing management.  This is a nerves, not something they can fix with surgery.


Yes, he was great in bursts for us but I think it is an easy pass to take on him.


I think a front court of Queta, Giannis and Tatum would be formidable.   We use bigs, wings and ball handlers not traditional positions. Positions matter more on D anyways than on offense.   Tatum, Giannis would be great small ball options and they are not really small.

[Roy H.]

Theoretically KP would be a great compliment to Giannis, as a big who can shoot the three and open up the lane.

His health is terrifying.  He played in 15 games last year.  17 games the year before. 42 games the year before.  For his career he has played 523 of a possible 820 games.  That is roughly 64% of games and he is getting older and has a medical concern.


https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/porzikr01.html

He has POTS.POTS (Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome) is not a heart disease and is not life-threatening. However, it is a serious and sometimes debilitating neurological condition affecting the autonomic nervous system, which can significantly disrupt your daily life and requires careful, ongoing management.  This is a nerves, not something they can fix with surgery.


Yes, he was great in bursts for us but I think it is an easy pass to take on him.


I think a front court of Queta, Giannis and Tatum would be formidable.   We use bigs, wings and ball handlers not traditional positions. Positions matter more on D anyways than on offense.   Tatum, Giannis would be great small ball options and they are not really small.

It's not *quite* that bad.  He played in 32 games last year -- 15 with GSW, and 17 with ATL -- and 43 with the Celts the year before.

I mean, if Brad is of the mind that we're not winning a title without a gamble / big time luck, this is a championship roster *if healthy*.

KP / Queta / Garza
Giannis / FA
Tatum / Hauser / Walsh
White / Scheierman
Pritchard / FA

[celticinorlando]

You sign KP it better be on the cheap. Cannot count on him to play more that 40 games.

[Phantom255x]

I'm very curious what Porzingis' market will end up being. There's no way a team out there is gonna be willing to give him a long term deal given his POTS diagnosis. Maybe a 1+1 but even the teams with cap space might hesitate locking him up to a semi-significant monetary deal. It's possible he could just be forced to take an exception deal or something similar. 

[Celtics2021]

I'm very curious what Porzingis' market will end up being. There's no way a team out there is gonna be willing to give him a long term deal given his POTS diagnosis. Maybe a 1+1 but even the teams with cap space might hesitate locking him up to a semi-significant monetary deal. It's possible he could just be forced to take an exception deal or something similar.

I think the Warriors will try to keep him.  They have his Bird rights and not much flexibility if they do not make a trade.

[Celtics4ever]

It's not *quite* that bad.  He played in 32 games last year -- 15 with GSW, and 17 with ATL -- and 43 with the Celts the year before.

I stand both corrected and vindicated.  Thanks.

[Phantom255x]

Jaylen removed the Celtics from his social media bio and all connections in his social media to them.

Also interesting that in the past when Jaylen was in trade rumors (ex. Durant), usually local reporters and the teams would come out very soon after and say ?nope Jaylen is still here and we love having him, nothing to see? yet we have not seen that so far.

Starting to feel scared this is happening

[Goldstar88]

Jaylen removed the Celtics from his social media bio and all connections in his social media to them.

Also interesting that in the past when Jaylen was in trade rumors (ex. Durant), usually local reporters and the teams would come out very soon after and say ?nope Jaylen is still here and we love having him, nothing to see? yet we have not seen that so far.

Starting to feel scared this is happening

Great point

[Jiri Welsch]

Jaylen removed the Celtics from his social media bio and all connections in his social media to them.

Also interesting that in the past when Jaylen was in trade rumors (ex. Durant), usually local reporters and the teams would come out very soon after and say ?nope Jaylen is still here and we love having him, nothing to see? yet we have not seen that so far.

Starting to feel scared this is happening

Why scared?

[Neurotic Guy]

Jaylen removed the Celtics from his social media bio and all connections in his social media to them.

Also interesting that in the past when Jaylen was in trade rumors (ex. Durant), usually local reporters and the teams would come out very soon after and say ?nope Jaylen is still here and we love having him, nothing to see? yet we have not seen that so far.

Starting to feel scared this is happening

As someone who?s only social media is this blog - no Facebook, no Linked in, etc. I?m not sure I know exactly what it means to take Celtics off of your social media bio.  Logic tells me you create a page with information about you that you want people to know.  So Jaylen?s would say something like Jaylen Brown, NBA player with the Boston Celtics.  And you are saying that he has edited this page in recent days to remove Boston Celtics from his intro page.  If I got that right (sorry for the need for clarity) that sounds very significant to me.

But the question I have is what would motivate him to do this prior to a deal being officially completed?  I am assuming that if officially completed we?d all know about it.

[johnnygreen]

Jaylen removed the Celtics from his social media bio and all connections in his social media to them.

Also interesting that in the past when Jaylen was in trade rumors (ex. Durant), usually local reporters and the teams would come out very soon after and say ?nope Jaylen is still here and we love having him, nothing to see? yet we have not seen that so far.

Starting to feel scared this is happening

As someone who?s only social media is this blog - no Facebook, no Linked in, etc. I?m not sure I know exactly what it means to take Celtics off of your social media bio.  Logic tells me you create a page with information about you that you want people to know.  So Jaylen?s would say something like Jaylen Brown, NBA player with the Boston Celtics.  And you are saying that he has edited this page in recent days to remove Boston Celtics from his intro page.  If I got that right (sorry for the need for clarity) that sounds very significant to me.

But the question I have is what would motivate him to do this prior to a deal being officially completed?  I am assuming that if officially completed we?d all know about it.

Maybe it simply doesn't matter if the Giannis trade gets completed. Maybe Jaylen is done with all the trade rumors, especially after the season he just had and proving he could be that top dog. Maybe he just wants to be traded at this point.

[Moranis]

All of the reporting ive seen seem to indicate that  oston has no interest in trading Brown.  They'd like Giannis but haven't included Brown, which is in oart why it hasn't happened.  Same reason Giannis isn't a Cav for Mobley.  If anything the reporting should give Brown more comfort

[Phantom255x]

Jaylen removed the Celtics from his social media bio and all connections in his social media to them.

Also interesting that in the past when Jaylen was in trade rumors (ex. Durant), usually local reporters and the teams would come out very soon after and say ?nope Jaylen is still here and we love having him, nothing to see? yet we have not seen that so far.

Starting to feel scared this is happening

As someone who?s only social media is this blog - no Facebook, no Linked in, etc. I?m not sure I know exactly what it means to take Celtics off of your social media bio.  Logic tells me you create a page with information about you that you want people to know.  So Jaylen?s would say something like Jaylen Brown, NBA player with the Boston Celtics.  And you are saying that he has edited this page in recent days to remove Boston Celtics from his intro page.  If I got that right (sorry for the need for clarity) that sounds very significant to me.

But the question I have is what would motivate him to do this prior to a deal being officially completed?  I am assuming that if officially completed we?d all know about it.

Maybe it simply doesn't matter if the Giannis trade gets completed. Maybe Jaylen is done with all the trade rumors, especially after the season he just had and proving he could be that top dog. Maybe he just wants to be traded at this point.

Yeah sometimes players do it just for fun, kind of like the equivalent of a player tweeting out an eyeball emoji and nothing else. He could easily put the information back on and unhide the images and such later on. We'll see. But to my knowledge, Jaylen hasn't done that before even back in 2022 when he was heavily involved in the Durant rumors for some days.

I'm kind of with Moranis though, the reporting on this has been sus considering the C's are usually tight-lipped. A lot of the recent reporting has come from Miami's side it seems. Makes me wonder too if maybe they truly are just trying to drive up the price, or they might have interest in being involved as a 3rd team where they don't get Giannis, but other assets/players?

[Goldstar88]

If Giannis main reason for wanting to be traded is that he is looking to win another championship, how can he believe that is possible in Miami. Pairing himself with Bam is not good enough and the Heat would be gutting their team to get him.

A Miami starting 5 of: Mitchell, Powell, Wiggins, Giannis, Bam isn?t winning anything.

A Boston starting 5 of: Pritchard, White, Hauser, Tatum, Giannis is a contender.

[Phantom255x]

If Giannis main reason for wanting to be traded is that he is looking to win another championship, how can he believe that is possible in Miami. Pairing himself with Bam is not good enough and the Heat would be gutting their team to get him.

A Miami starting 5 of: Mitchell, Powell, Wiggins, Giannis, Bam isn?t winning anything.

A Boston starting 5 of: Pritchard, White, Hauser, Tatum, Giannis is a contender.

It's not, but it also depends what team is actually making a competitive offer. For example, if Boston isn't including Jaylen and the Cavs aren't including Mobley, who else has an offer that's better than Miami's? Miami's offer can easily be outbid but there has to be teams willing to make them. Maybe Portland and others can, but the hurdle there is it seems Giannis is only open to signing an extension with Miami and Boston, based on reports. In that case, POR also wouldn't give up a ton for potentially a rental.