Time for a change?

[Goldstar88]

If Giannis is playing on this Celtics team instead of JB this series is long over. Probably a sweep.

He'd also provide the C's an answer to Embiid/Wemby/KAT and other big men in the league. We had Horford and even Porzingis/Timelord for a bit but so far this series is truly exposing our frontcourt. Queta is young and will continue to develop but they absolutely need another guy, and ideally someone better than Vucevic/Garza (though I'm fine with Garza as the 3rd/4th big).

I mean Embiid just looks at our frontcourt like BBQ chicken, way too easy and there's not much they can do sadly.

Exactly. Team would be better balanced. Queta will continue to develop. Can actually go double big at times with Garza as the stretch 5 and Giannis at the 4. Keep Giannis at 34mpg, rest on B2B. Just keep him as fresh as possible for the playoffs.

[slightly biased bias fan]

I am curious, if the Cavs got out of the second apron, would a Brown for Mobley trade help both teams?

Celtics strengthen the front court, and get a young, cheaper star player. The Celtics would still have plenty of salaries and picks to go after a second tier star like Trey Murphy III to mitigate the loss of Brown.

The Cavs get an elite two way wing they sorely need. Perhaps the trade is the key to bringing back LeBron on a cheap one year deal.

[hardlyyardley]

Love it

[Goldstar88]

I am curious, if the Cavs got out of the second apron, would a Brown for Mobley trade help both teams?

Celtics strengthen the front court, and get a young, cheaper star player. The Celtics would still have plenty of salaries and picks to go after a second tier star like Trey Murphy III to mitigate the loss of Brown.

The Cavs get an elite two way wing they sorely need. Perhaps the trade is the key to bringing back LeBron on a cheap one year deal.

Mobley isn?t good enough, IMO. Need to get a better player back for JB considering he?s top 5 in MVP voting.

[Moranis]

I am curious, if the Cavs got out of the second apron, would a Brown for Mobley trade help both teams?

Celtics strengthen the front court, and get a young, cheaper star player. The Celtics would still have plenty of salaries and picks to go after a second tier star like Trey Murphy III to mitigate the loss of Brown.

The Cavs get an elite two way wing they sorely need. Perhaps the trade is the key to bringing back LeBron on a cheap one year deal.

Mobley isn?t good enough, IMO. Need to get a better player back for JB considering he?s top 5 in MVP voting.

If Boston could get the 6'11" 24 year old former DPOY for Brown, they should. 

[Yuckabuck33]

After the way the Nuggets season ended, I'd swing for the fences trading JB for Jokic. The only players I never wanted to see on this team more than Nikola Vucevich are Lebron and Giannis.? (OK, also Harden.)

[SCeltic34]

I am curious, if the Cavs got out of the second apron, would a Brown for Mobley trade help both teams?

Celtics strengthen the front court, and get a young, cheaper star player. The Celtics would still have plenty of salaries and picks to go after a second tier star like Trey Murphy III to mitigate the loss of Brown.

The Cavs get an elite two way wing they sorely need. Perhaps the trade is the key to bringing back LeBron on a cheap one year deal.

Mobley isn?t good enough, IMO. Need to get a better player back for JB considering he?s top 5 in MVP voting.

If Boston could get the 6'11" 24 year old former DPOY for Brown, they should.

I wouldn't do that even if Cleveland threw in a 1st round pick.  Mobley is a significant offensive downgrade, not to mention a terrible FT shooter, even worse than Brown.  He's never going to be a smooth scorer or floor spacer.  Too mechanical.  And he wouldn't be able to take adequate pressure off of Tatum in the playoffs.  I'm always for strong defenders, but defense isn't our primary problem right now.  Both Brown and Mobley are flawed, but I'll take JB over Mobley every day of the week.

We're losing the best player in that trade.  We therefore lose that trade, unless we're getting significant draft considerations in return.  We need a better player in return.

[SCeltic34]

I think changes are coming regardless of what happens in this year's playoffs.  The only way we run it back is if we win it all, which isn't going to happen. 

I'd estimate Brad will not trade JB unless he gets an offer that's impossible to refuse.  The championship window is still open with a JT + JB core.  We just need readjust the players around them.  I think everyone is thinking White is on his way out.

[Phantom255x]

Call me crazy, but if Giannis isn't an option I would consider dangling White in a package for either Durant or AD. Or someone similar that's disgruntled and could be had without giving up Jaylen. Now if Giannis requires Jaylen instead of White, then I'd heavily consider it if the C's lose tonight. But if Giannis isn't an option, I think all options with White have to be on the table and the C's will need to change something up or try something. Running it back with everyone + Mazzulla all together would be malpractice. They need a frontcourt upgrade as well, and despite his insane injury history AD might be one of the more realistic guys available via trade.

And yeah, I expect Mazzulla will be back even if they lose tonight. They'll probably say they didn't have Tatum most of the year and the roster talent wasn't as good enough so he'll get a lifeline for that. His seat could become warm but that's about it. White/Jaylen and others will definitely be on the block especially if they lose tonight 

[Moranis]

I am curious, if the Cavs got out of the second apron, would a Brown for Mobley trade help both teams?

Celtics strengthen the front court, and get a young, cheaper star player. The Celtics would still have plenty of salaries and picks to go after a second tier star like Trey Murphy III to mitigate the loss of Brown.

The Cavs get an elite two way wing they sorely need. Perhaps the trade is the key to bringing back LeBron on a cheap one year deal.

Mobley isn?t good enough, IMO. Need to get a better player back for JB considering he?s top 5 in MVP voting.

If Boston could get the 6'11" 24 year old former DPOY for Brown, they should.

I wouldn't do that even if Cleveland threw in a 1st round pick.  Mobley is a significant offensive downgrade, not to mention a terrible FT shooter, even worse than Brown.  He's never going to be a smooth scorer or floor spacer.  Too mechanical.  And he wouldn't be able to take adequate pressure off of Tatum in the playoffs.  I'm always for strong defenders, but defense isn't our primary problem right now.  Both Brown and Mobley are flawed, but I'll take JB over Mobley every day of the week.

We're losing the best player in that trade.  We therefore lose that trade, unless we're getting significant draft considerations in return.  We need a better player in return.

Mobley is a tertiary scorer, but he is far more efficient, has a better assist to turnover ratio, etc.  He'd be a better fit next to Tatum on offense and is a much better defensive player at a position of need.  He is also 5 years younger extending the window a fair amount. 

Cleveland wouldn't make that trade so it is a moot discussion. 

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

We need Giannis. Tatum's in his prime right now. He'll be the bruiser for this team and can score in the paint.

We also need a good coach with different coaching philosophies. Run an offense who can score in the paint and minimize the volume of 3-point shooting.

AMEN!

YES! YES!

WE WANT GIANNIS!
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WE WANT GIANNIS!

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[Who]

Mobley is a tertiary scorer, but he is far more efficient, has a better assist to turnover ratio, etc.  He'd be a better fit next to Tatum on offense and is a much better defensive player at a position of need.  He is also 5 years younger extending the window a fair amount. 

Cleveland wouldn't make that trade so it is a moot discussion.

Position of need? Do you mean center? Do you see Mobley as a center moving forward? Or are you moving Tatum back to SF and keeping Mobley at PF?

[ozgod]

You guys don't feel you're overreacting a little, throwing the baby out with the bathwater 

[Goldstar88]

You guys don't feel you're overreacting a little, throwing the baby out with the bathwater 

I mean, getting a former MVP/DPOY in Giannis who likes Joe and wants out of Milwaukee seems like a good strategy to me. 🤷‍♂️

[Moranis]

Mobley is a tertiary scorer, but he is far more efficient, has a better assist to turnover ratio, etc.  He'd be a better fit next to Tatum on offense and is a much better defensive player at a position of need.  He is also 5 years younger extending the window a fair amount. 

Cleveland wouldn't make that trade so it is a moot discussion.

Position of need? Do you mean center? Do you see Mobley as a center moving forward? Or are you moving Tatum back to SF and keeping Mobley at PF?

With no Brown, Tatum is the SF in the starting lineup with Mobley and Queta.   Mobley would play a fair amount at center though and he'd be fine there against most teams.  Mobley will get stronger and fill out more as ge ages and eventually would be a full time center.