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Time for a change?
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If the Celtics don?t make it back to the ECF, they should trade JB for Giannis. I don?t think the Bucks can do better than that. Brown can be the undisputed #1 option and do his hero ball shtick.

Boston will get a dominant big who they can surround with shooters. If Giannis can give the Celtics 3-4 good years, it would be worth it. Im not a fan a big fan of the Greek Freak, but at least you know what you?re going to get from him every night. Giannis also likes Joe. He?s been very complimentary of him.

Starting 5: Pritchard, White, Hauser, Tatum, Giannis.
Bench: Schierman, Harper Jr, Gonzalez, Walsh, Queta, Garza.

Couple Vet FA signings for the bench. No team in the East is stopping that starting 5.
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 10:45:18 PM by Goldstar88 »
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

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We need Giannis. Tatum's in his prime right now. He'll be the bruiser for this team and can score in the paint.

We also need a good coach with different coaching philosophies. Run an offense who can score in the paint and minimize the volume of 3-point shooting.


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If they lose this series on Saturday, I'm open for anything. Even a Jaylen for Giannis package

I would still like to try and make it work with the Jays, but White's value will be low after this postseason and I just can't see them keeping the same iteration if they go one-and-done. And while I'd like Mazzulla to be fired if they lose Game 7, I just don't see them doing it.
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If the Celtics don?t make it back to the ECF, they should trade JB for Giannis. I don?t think the Bucks can do better than that. Brown can be the undisputed #1 option and do his hero ball shtick.

Boston will get a dominant big and they can surround him with shooters. If Giannis can give the Celtics 3-4 good years, it would be worth it. Im not a fan a big fan of the Greek Freak, but at least you know what you?re going to get from him every night.

Starting 5: Pritchard, White, Hauser, Tatum, Giannis.

That will be like getting KG all over again. If so, Joe better not allow Giannis to chuck threes all game long.

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If Giannis was on the table for Jaylen, it would already be done. Brad is a smiley friendly guy, but he does not get emotional about guys.

I?d be all for it and I believe MIL doesn?t really control their picks the next few years (making it useless to tank), but we may need a 3rd team here who inexplicably would rather have Jaylen than Giannis

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I think Giannis is on the table. I really do. This team needs a change. White is on the block too. He still has value. Houston and Golden St would pay a premium for his services. He will be 32 when next season starts.
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Frustration has gotten into me and for the first time in the Jays era I think i?m open to trading JB. His play in the last 2 games just rubbed me the wrong way. I hope he proves me wrong come Saturday.

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I think Giannis is on the table. I really do. This team needs a change. White is on the block too. He still has value. Houston and Golden St would pay a premium for his services. He will be 32 when next season starts.

Didn?t realize DW is just 32. He should be in his prime!

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If Giannis was on the table for Jaylen, it would already be done. Brad is a smiley friendly guy, but he does not get emotional about guys.

I?d be all for it and I believe MIL doesn?t really control their picks the next few years (making it useless to tank), but we may need a 3rd team here who inexplicably would rather have Jaylen than Giannis

JBs stock has never been this high. He?s finishing top 5 in MVP voting. This was never the case in the past. Bucks aren?t going to do better than that. If they want to go full rebuild, can trade him for a boat load of picks.
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I think Giannis is on the table. I really do. This team needs a change. White is on the block too. He still has value. Houston and Golden St would pay a premium for his services. He will be 32 when next season starts.

Didn?t realize DW is just 32. He should be in his prime!
He has gotten worse each of the last 3 years.  It is very unlikely he stops that trend.
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If the Celtics don?t make it back to the ECF, they should trade JB for Giannis. I don?t think the Bucks can do better than that. Brown can be the undisputed #1 option and do his hero ball shtick.

Boston will get a dominant big who they can surround with shooters. If Giannis can give the Celtics 3-4 good years, it would be worth it. Im not a fan a big fan of the Greek Freak, but at least you know what you?re going to get from him every night. Giannis also likes Joe. He?s been very complimentary of him.

Starting 5: Pritchard, White, Hauser, Tatum, Giannis.
Bench: Schierman, Harper Jr, Gonzalez, Walsh, Queta, Garza.

Couple Vet FA signings for the bench. No team in the East is stopping that starting 5.
team needs a change but start with the crappy coach rather than the all-NBA talent.  Brad got this same core to overachieve when he coached,  Joe has them underperforming with the exception of one year. 

if a new coach doesn't get better results, then I'd consider breaking up the J's but only then.

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If the Celtics don?t make it back to the ECF, they should trade JB for Giannis. I don?t think the Bucks can do better than that. Brown can be the undisputed #1 option and do his hero ball shtick.

Boston will get a dominant big who they can surround with shooters. If Giannis can give the Celtics 3-4 good years, it would be worth it. Im not a fan a big fan of the Greek Freak, but at least you know what you?re going to get from him every night. Giannis also likes Joe. He?s been very complimentary of him.

Starting 5: Pritchard, White, Hauser, Tatum, Giannis.
Bench: Schierman, Harper Jr, Gonzalez, Walsh, Queta, Garza.

Couple Vet FA signings for the bench. No team in the East is stopping that starting 5.
team needs a change but start with the crappy coach rather than the all-NBA talent.  Brad got this same core to overachieve when he coached,  Joe has them underperforming with the exception of one year. 

if a new coach doesn't get better results, then I'd consider breaking up the J's but only then.

The players are the ones on the court deciding games. They are the ones missing layups and free throws. Trying to dribble though double teams and turning the ball over.

Also, Giannis likes Joe. So that would be a selling point for Brad. The Celtics won a championship with Joe.
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 11:54:48 PM by Goldstar88 »
Quoting Nick from the now locked Ime thread:
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

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If the Cs don't win it all this year I would trade JB+Hauser+(White) for Gianis or a straight up Tatum for Gianis. I want a dominant alpha (Gianis) to lead this team. If Gianis loves Joe then stick with Joe.

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If Giannis is playing on this Celtics team instead of JB the series is long over. Probably a sweep.
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

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If Giannis is playing on this Celtics team instead of JB this series is long over. Probably a sweep.

He'd also provide the C's an answer to Embiid/Wemby/KAT and other big men in the league. We had Horford and even Porzingis/Timelord for a bit but so far this series is truly exposing our frontcourt. Queta is young and will continue to develop but they absolutely need another guy, and ideally someone better than Vucevic/Garza (though I'm fine with Garza as the 3rd/4th big).

I mean Embiid just looks at our frontcourt like BBQ chicken, way too easy and there's not much they can do sadly.
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