Shams: Big DAL/WSH Trade (AD, Middleton, etc.)

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Perhaps it's somewhere in this thread and I missed it, but what's the motivation for each side in the AD trade?

[Celtics2021]

Being traded to the Wizards, where careers end up dying or in the garbage.

But Dallas is how you go from a championship team to a dumpster fire in one year

such is the trauma inflicted upon that franchise by the Celtics dominating them in 2024   

Washington has not been the same since the 2017 East semis.

So basically its Kelly Olynyk's fault.

Pretty much.  I am not sure if people understand how historically bad the Wizards have been.  They have not made the conference finals or won 50 games since the 70s.  Winning 49 games and losing in 7 games in the 2nd round ripped apart that organization.  It was their 3rd second round appearance in four years and they finally thought they were going to get over the hump, but no.

We are in a transition season with our best player out and shedding all kinds of payroll and are still on pace to have a better season than any the Wizards have had since 1979.

[Celtics2021]

Perhaps it's somewhere in this thread and I missed it, but what's the motivation for each side in the AD trade?

See my post above about the Wizards.  Being a mid-40s win team in the second round would be big for them.  They had a lot of picks and didn?t trade any of the good ones, so it is just money they would have spent on overpriced free agents.  I don?t know that this plus Trae gets them there, but they are desperate, and their goal is not a championship.

The Mavs got a few picks and cleared a lot salary this year (they are now out of the tax) and next year (net $67 million less which can give them actual cap space). 

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Perhaps it's somewhere in this thread and I missed it, but what's the motivation for each side in the AD trade?

See my post above about the Wizards.  Being a mid-40s win team in the second round would be big for them.  They had a lot of picks and didn?t trade any of the good ones, so it is just money they would have spent on overpriced free agents.  I don?t know that this plus Trae gets them there, but they are desperate, and their goal is not a championship.

The Mavs got a few picks and cleared a lot salary this year (they are now out of the tax) and next year (net $67 million less which can give them actual cap space).

Thanks! TP

[radiohead]

Is Kyrie next?

[keevsnick]

Well that Wizards team will at least be interesting next year.

Davis/Sarr could be great fits with Trae Young.  Gives him too versatile big man to play with in the pick and roll while always giving the Wizards plenty of rim protection to compensate for Trae's defensive flaws.

Around those three main guys they still have some interesting young guys like Coulibaly, Johnson, Carrington, George and they will likely have a top 5 pick this year.

[ozgod]

Perhaps it's somewhere in this thread and I missed it, but what's the motivation for each side in the AD trade?

See my post above about the Wizards.  Being a mid-40s win team in the second round would be big for them.  They had a lot of picks and didn?t trade any of the good ones, so it is just money they would have spent on overpriced free agents.  I don?t know that this plus Trae gets them there, but they are desperate, and their goal is not a championship.

The Mavs got a few picks and cleared a lot salary this year (they are now out of the tax) and next year (net $67 million less which can give them actual cap space).

Yes, as fans sometimes it's easy to slip into "every move should be to win a championship" because that's what we want as fans, but front offices can have a whole host of goals which may not involve winning a championship. Like: a) shed salary; b) maneuver around the cap/tax/aprons; c) set their cap up for 3 years from now; d) behind the scenes they're not happy with their player's attitude/workrate/etc; e) personality conflict; f) not good in the locker room and causing an issue with others; g) not part of their long term vision; h) it's step 1 of a 3 step plan over a period of time to eventually get someone they really want, so they get a player that the team that has that player they really want would be interested in; i) just want to provide a better on court product to fans as attendance is dwindling; or j) GM is going to get fired unless he does something drastic so it's a Hail Mary

[slightly biased bias fan]

A scary thought crossed my mind.

What if the Lakers traded their upcoming draft pick to Washington for Davis. The Lakers could achieve this because they can shed around 90 million in salary.

[RMO]

A scary thought crossed my mind.

What if the Lakers traded their upcoming draft pick to Washington for Davis. The Lakers could achieve this because they can shed around 90 million in salary.

Why would Washington do this?

[slightly biased bias fan]

A scary thought crossed my mind.

What if the Lakers traded their upcoming draft pick to Washington for Davis. The Lakers could achieve this because they can shed around 90 million in salary.

Why would Washington do this?

Because Washington got Davis for essentially nothing.

The two picks they gave up were not valuable. One is a 2026 pick from the Thunder, it will be the 30th pick (basically a second rounder) and the other is a protected Warriors pick in 2030 that may never convey.

The other matter is that Davis may not want to play for a rebuilding team.

Perhaps the Lakers could give up a little more but it is not as farcical as you would think.

[RMO]

A scary thought crossed my mind.

What if the Lakers traded their upcoming draft pick to Washington for Davis. The Lakers could achieve this because they can shed around 90 million in salary.

Why would Washington do this?

Because Washington got Davis for essentially nothing.

The two picks they gave up were not valuable. One is a 2026 pick from the Thunder, it will be the 30th pick (basically a second rounder) and the other is a protected Warriors pick in 2030 that may never convey.

The other matter is that Davis may not want to play for a rebuilding team.

Perhaps the Lakers could give up a little more but it is not as farcical as you would think.

I don't know.  Something overlooked from the lakers perspective (because all the attention rightfully was focused on them getting Luka) was that now they don't have to deal with the Davis extension.  They weren't going to pay him what he'll probably demand and while I'm no salary cap expert, I don't believe when you let someone walk that all of a sudden their contract becomes cap space dollar for dollar.  So I just don't see why the lakers would even want to entertain that, especially when he likely won't play this season.