Knicks (13-6) at Celtics (11-9) Game #21 12/2/25

[Phantom255x]

Something I find kind of funny. The Knicks are the 2 seed, and they are 13-6. Only 2.5 ahead of Boston at 11-9. That's a commentary on the East

Stretch that out and NYK is on pace for 56 wins, BOS only 45.  If the pace holds, it will look much more representative by the end of the season.

Oh I agree. It'll average out. But that said I just don't view the top teams in the East as "unbeatable". Like you looked at those Cavaliers teams with Lebron, Bucks with prime Giannis/Jrue/Middleton, even the Heat with Butler/Bam and felt those were gonna be very tough and it ran through them even if they weren't the 1 seed. I don't feel that way with NY/DET this year, and CLE/ORL have been a bit inconsistent to start too. It's an open conference. Might literally come down to some injury luck and matchups

[Vermont Green]

Something I find kind of funny. The Knicks are the 2 seed, and they are 13-6. Only 2.5 ahead of Boston at 11-9. That's a commentary on the East

Stretch that out and NYK is on pace for 56 wins, BOS only 45.  If the pace holds, it will look much more representative by the end of the season.

Oh I agree. It'll average out. But that said I just don't view the top teams in the East as "unbeatable". Like you looked at those Cavaliers teams with Lebron, Bucks with prime Giannis/Jrue/Middleton, even the Heat with Butler/Bam and felt those were gonna be very tough and it ran through them even if they weren't the 1 seed. I don't feel that way with NY/DET this year, and CLE/ORL have been a bit inconsistent to start too. It's an open conference. Might literally come down to some injury luck and matchups

That is sure what it seems like.  Injuries always play a role.  I have a feeling though, that some of these teams thought to be better will start to rise to the top.  NYK, CLE, maybe even MIL if Giannis can stay healthy.  But a lot can change.