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Re: Red Sox 2025-26 Off Season
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2025, 02:35:45 PM »

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The Red Sox were 4th in the AL for OPS and 3rd in the AL for runs in 2025.  That is without Bregman or Anthony for much of the season.  Getting middle of the line up bats is great, but BOS scored runs last season.  Granted, some guys like Romy Gonzalez had surprising seasons, but I don't think they need to overreach for improved position player production.  5 more seasons for guys already in their 30s is likely to turn out to be overreaching.

I wish it was the old days where BOS was in on every hot FA, it just isn't anymore.  I would rather they focus on pitching.

Re: Red Sox 2025-26 Off Season
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2025, 02:38:31 PM »

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Get ready for an overpay of an aging, breaking-down Bregman, and another season of "Which 4 or 5 guys will get injured this year, leading to way more Eaton, Sogard, and triple-A pitchers than we want?"
We do at least have 8 MLB ready starting pitchers imo this year

Crochet, Bello, Gray, Oviedo, Dobbins, Crawford, Early, Sandoval

Tolle could get there as well reasonably soon. So barring another trade the concern will be more of a oh my god why does my line up feature Nick Sogard and David Hamilton for the 4th time this week. And less of an issue with triple A pitchers.

Re: Red Sox 2025-26 Off Season
« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2025, 04:26:13 PM »

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The Red Sox were 4th in the AL for OPS and 3rd in the AL for runs in 2025.  That is without Bregman or Anthony for much of the season.  Getting middle of the line up bats is great, but BOS scored runs last season.  Granted, some guys like Romy Gonzalez had surprising seasons, but I don't think they need to overreach for improved position player production.  5 more seasons for guys already in their 30s is likely to turn out to be overreaching.

I wish it was the old days where BOS was in on every hot FA, it just isn't anymore.  I would rather they focus on pitching.

I don't think that these socks can rely upon players continually playing above their expectations.  I also disagree that it's particularly risky to pay a proven power bat $30 million per year in their early 30s.

There's no logical reason not to spend, other than Henry being cheap.


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Re: Red Sox 2025-26 Off Season
« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2025, 05:28:53 PM »

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Shocker..   :P

Report: Red Sox offer to Pete Alonso was for significantly less money than Orioles
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Re: Red Sox 2025-26 Off Season
« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2025, 05:42:18 PM »

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Shocker..   :P

Report: Red Sox offer to Pete Alonso was for significantly less money than Orioles

Same stuff, different day.  I bet they offered three years, $75 million.


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« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2025, 05:54:01 PM »

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Shocker..   :P

Report: Red Sox offer to Pete Alonso was for significantly less money than Orioles

Same stuff, different day.  I bet they offered three years, $75 million.

Yup.   They keep talking a big game, though.


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Re: Red Sox 2025-26 Off Season
« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2025, 06:42:42 PM »

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The Red Sox were 4th in the AL for OPS and 3rd in the AL for runs in 2025.  That is without Bregman or Anthony for much of the season.  Getting middle of the line up bats is great, but BOS scored runs last season.  Granted, some guys like Romy Gonzalez had surprising seasons, but I don't think they need to overreach for improved position player production.  5 more seasons for guys already in their 30s is likely to turn out to be overreaching.

I wish it was the old days where BOS was in on every hot FA, it just isn't anymore.  I would rather they focus on pitching.

But they might not be able to replicate all of that offense this season with the same personnel. Can Romy have another good season? Can Story again stay healthy a full season and hit well again? Is Narvaez for real?

And there are other big questions related to the offense: If they bring Bregman back, will he stay healthy and have a decent year, or continue to decline? If they don't bring him back, how will the mostly unproven Mayer do as the full-time 3B? Is Casas finally going to do something significant or completely wash out? Is Yoshida ever going to make a big impact? Will the Sox again be stuck with so-so platoon situations at 2B and RF?
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Re: Red Sox 2025-26 Off Season
« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2025, 10:11:58 PM »

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Edwin Diaz, the best closer in baseball, signed with the Dodgers on a 3-year $69M deal.

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Re: Red Sox 2025-26 Off Season
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2025, 06:33:16 AM »

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The Red Sox were 4th in the AL for OPS and 3rd in the AL for runs in 2025.  That is without Bregman or Anthony for much of the season.  Getting middle of the line up bats is great, but BOS scored runs last season.  Granted, some guys like Romy Gonzalez had surprising seasons, but I don't think they need to overreach for improved position player production.  5 more seasons for guys already in their 30s is likely to turn out to be overreaching.

I wish it was the old days where BOS was in on every hot FA, it just isn't anymore.  I would rather they focus on pitching.

But they might not be able to replicate all of that offense this season with the same personnel. Can Romy have another good season? Can Story again stay healthy a full season and hit well again? Is Narvaez for real?

And there are other big questions related to the offense: If they bring Bregman back, will he stay healthy and have a decent year, or continue to decline? If they don't bring him back, how will the mostly unproven Mayer do as the full-time 3B? Is Casas finally going to do something significant or completely wash out? Is Yoshida ever going to make a big impact? Will the Sox again be stuck with so-so platoon situations at 2B and RF?

I don't disagree.  They have some opportunities to improve the line up, primarily 1B and 2B.  And if they lose Bregman, add 3B.  Yoshida (DH) could be improved upon.  And I feel that they should spend some money on a couple of these weaknesses.  I don't expect that they will spend big on early 30's sluggers who can't field though.

I could see a scenario, maybe this is the worst case from a lack of spending standpoint, where Bregman comes back, Campbell everyday at 2B, and Casas at DH.  Then a platoon or something at 1B.  My point is that even with that, they are probably top 3 or 4 in scoring and slugging again and with improved/deeper pitching, are contending.  If you added Alonso to that, what is it, a couple more wins?  5 more wins?  That is how the Red Sox are looking at it I suspect.

Re: Red Sox 2025-26 Off Season
« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2025, 08:14:44 AM »

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Red Sox pitching depth is ridiculous.  I know you can never have enough pitching, or so they say, but this is crazy:

Crochet
Gray
Bello
Crawford
Sandoval
Oviedo

Houck

Tolle
Early
Harrison
Dobbins

That is 11 starters with major league experience.  Other than Houck, all are expected to be healthy for the start of spring training, I think.

Re: Red Sox 2025-26 Off Season
« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2025, 11:25:15 AM »

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Not getting Alonso is bad.

I'm also getting a little worried (and ticked) that they are just relying on Casas to play 1B full time and be the guy he was early on for a stretch. Haven't they learned??

They still need 2 bats IMO. It can be Bregman and Marte. But they have to do that. Are we really going to just go into another season (and postseason) relying on the likes of Refsnyder, Sogard, Eaton, Romy, etc. in the heart of the order and for power? Come on... and before someone tells me injuries hurt them last year. Yeah that's the point, you still need some depth and frankly, even when everyone was healthy they still lacked some pop in the middle of the lineup. You know, the Devers production.

Btw, that Devers money. What's it been used on exactly?? What are they saving for??  ::)
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Re: Red Sox 2025-26 Off Season
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Fenway Sports Group has agreed in principle to a sale of the Pittsburgh Penguins to the Chicago-based Hoffmann family, sources confirmed to ESPN. The deal is pending approval by the NHL's Board of Governors.

While the exact sale price was not immediately confirmed, league sources expect the deal to land between $1.7 and $1.8 billion for the Penguins. FSG bought controlling interest of the Penguins in 2021 for $900 million.

John Henry and company made an $800+ million profit in four years,  Maybe they could put some of that into the Sox.  I have no realistic expectation of that happening, though.


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Re: Red Sox 2025-26 Off Season
« Reply #42 on: Yesterday at 05:26:04 PM »

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Lots of talk, not much action so far.  Bichette is still in play.  Today it is reported that he would be OK to play 2B.  I saw that Campbell is hitting 0.214 in PR winter ball.  Yikes.  Bregman still out there.  I may be optimistic but if BOS were to sign Bichette for 2B, Bregman for 3B, Story at SS, some platoon at 1B, that would be alright.  Maybe trade an outfielder for an everyday 1B.  Campbell can be a utility player.

I think the team has enough starting pitching now and a solid enough bullpen.  They could still add more vet starting pitching via trades.

I am not sure there is all that much interest around the league in Bregman.  There are rumors but they don't feel real.  More like things put out by his people to make it seem like there is interest.  He had a couple of years at $40M with the Sox.  That is pretty good for a guy coming off a productive by injury plagued season, who will be 32 by the start of next season.  I wonder if he overplayed his hand here.  Alonso and Schwarber only got about $30M per, albeit for more seasons.  Seems Bregman is less than these guys.

Re: Red Sox 2025-26 Off Season
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So far the only teams to not sign a free agent are the Rockies and.... the Red Sox

Sorry but this is becoming kind of shameless. And then you have all these beat reporters and local media just hyping up the offseason and saying they have "interest" in everyone. I'm actually getting sick of it.

And please, even if they get Bregman I hope this fanbase doesn't "celebrate it" because it's basically then just running it back. The goal should have been to bring him back anyways and then they needed to make significant additions in addition to what they had. Isn't that the goal??

Also I personally am finding it pathetic that there's even talks about potentially trading Marcelo Mayer for another infield bat, simply because the Sox don't want to actually splurge free agency money on a guy like Alonso or even a SP. So let Bregman walk, then trade Mayer in a deal for Marte to basically replace Bregman because you don't want to pay Bregman while in that scenario losing Mayer who was your #4 pick in the 2021 Draft. What???

Bichette, Bregman, Marte, Michael King, etc. I'll admit if I'm wrong but wouldn't surprise me if they grabbed no one here or only one guy (which again, still isn't enough). They've already lost out on a bunch of FAs who btw, have gone to other direct competitors like the O's, Blue Jays, etc.
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Re: Red Sox 2025-26 Off Season
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Anyone surprised that the Red Sox aren?t spending?  :laugh:
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