Has Scheierman regressed?

[Roy H.]

Scheierman started to show some potential late last year.  After the All-Star break, he averaged 5.5 points on 36.8% 3PT% / .545 TS% in 16 minutes.  He also showed some intuitive passing skills.

Since then he's looked like hot garbage in summer league and preseason.

Was the solid stretch last season a fluke?

(Nothing against Scheierman, but it still irritates me that Brad passed on Filipowski.)

[slamtheking]

Scheierman started to show some potential late last year.  After the All-Star break, he averaged 5.5 points on 36.8% 3PT% / .545 TS% in 16 minutes.  He also showed some intuitive passing skills.

Since then he's looked like hot garbage in summer league and preseason.

Was the solid stretch last season a fluke?

(Nothing against Scheierman, but it still irritates me that Brad passed on Filipowski.)

I have to admit I'm wondering what's up with him this season.  I'm not sure if it's Joe trying him out as someone who could run offense on the second unit since we're thin on PGs this year or he's trying too hard to show he deserves minutes with other guys on the team needing to do the same and in Baylor's case it's making him look worse.

Ignoring the obvious fact that he's behind JB, White, Simons and Hauser for SG/SF minutes, he's fighting Minott, Walsh and Hugo for what's left of playing time.  At this point, he's firmly behind Minott and losing ground to Hugo.  Walsh is the only one he may still be ahead of at this point and that's more because Walsh has been even worse than he has than anything Baylor has done on the court.

[droopdog7]

I'm not sure he ever 'a' gressed.  I mean, this kind of thing is super common.  New guy shows potential, has a little success, but comes down back to earth.  Seen it a million times.  As it is, he is a late first round pick that may or may not stick.

[Who]

Scheierman is trying to do more on offense - and he can't do more.

Scheierman needs to simplify his game. Less is more. The only shots he should take on offense are wide open shots. Try not to do too much dribbling. Keep It Simple. That will get rid of most of the mental mistakes (on the offensive end).

Then the open question is how consistent can his outside shot be. He hasn't shown himself to be a high caliber shooter. He has shown himself to be a streaky / inconsistent shooter. He is not good enough defensively to stick in the NBA by being a streaky shooter. He has to be a reliable outside threat in the 35-37% range (at a minimum). That will decide whether can be useful enough on offense or not.

[perks-a-beast]

I would feel a hell of a lot better about his potential if he was 21, not 25.

[Moranis]

No he just isn't very good.  Sometimes guys that aren't very good have some really nice games, but it doesn't make them any good.  And if you start to break down the numbers from last, he basically had 3 really good games when he had a GmSc (the bball ref metric, which while flawed is decent) above 10.  He had only 1 other game above 6.6.  His worst game of the year was the game directly after his best game of the year.  Again fairly typical of a guy that isn't very good.  He is a borderline NBA player, which is frankly what you should expect from a very old rookie taken at the end of the 1st round.  He may get a 2nd contract, but he may not.   

[Vermont Green]

He just looks slow to me, especially when dribbling, which severely limits his ability to be a PG.  I think he had a good month in March last season.  47% from 3 for the month.  6-7 in one game.  But even April he was back down to 24% from 3.  I have never seen anything from him that has gotten me overly excited.  With lack of athleticism, he would have to be a lights out shooter to make it, and he just isn't, or isn't so far.

I would have Scheierman (age 25) dead last of the 14 signed players, yes, behind Walsh (age 21) and Gonzalez (age 19).  And not that far ahead of the 2-way guys.  But he is not going anywhere.  His contract is fully guaranteed.  Could be worse, it is only $2.6M.

[86MaxwellSmart]

I think he should do us all a favor and switch back to playing football....Apparently he's a much better Quarterback than BB player.

[Smartacus]

I mean, he clearly saw the path. He was going to overtake Hauser for that spot in the rotation, and become the rock solid, three-point bomber coming in to run the second unit. With the skill that he showed in college and the flashes of a rookie it almost seemed like a forgo conclusion, but it?s possible he just took his eye off the ball.

Tatum gets injured, Hauser is still here, and he looked up and he?s got Josh Minott thoroughly in his way, excelling in all the areas that he?s deficient. Then you have Hugo Gonzalez as the spark plug energy guy who we could afford to wait 2 to 3 years on and suddenly his path has become rocky at best.

I?m not done with him, but I want Minott to have every chance to make the team and excel. IMO Brad made some solid acquisitions this offseason so it?s on Scheierman to take the next step or start brushing up on his Mandarin.

[Goldstar88]

I?m not sure he was ever any good to begin with.

[Phantom255x]

Yeah I'm also still ticked they didn't pick Filipowski. I also thought Scheierman was gonna potentially replace Hauser long term but we still kept Hauser after all that so...

[ozgod]

The stats will show he regressed, but I think there's more to it. I think part of the problem is that he is trying, or they are trying to make him, fill a role he's not able to fill currently (because they want to know if he can do it). Like in the game vs Toronto they had him bringing the ball up and initiating the offense and he struggled with it, with 6 turnovers. 3 of those were near the end when the game got close, and it exposed another issue - he's not the best decisionmaker under pressure. He had it easier last year when he was coming on with guys like Tatum, KP, Jrue, DW or JB on the court with the amount of gravity they had. Now he's the guy with the most gravity in some of the lineups (Moon gravity, but still).

He tried to do it all himself because he was the most credentialled guy on the court with a bunch of G-leaguers, and he turned the ball over instead of running the plays that (presumably) Mazz wanted him to run. Whether it was lack of trust in his teammates or a desire to win the game on his own (Smartacus syndrome) he made poor decisions to do on his own multiple times. It's preseason - winning the game is important, but it's also important to show you're a team player, and that you can do what the coach wants you to do. If that means pass the ball to someone who might miss, so be it.

I think they tried to put him in positions where he would be uncomfortable, and see how he responded, because this is the best year to do that - there's a number of rotation spots up for grabs, may as well push some of the guys and see if they can do more than what they already have in the past. I think we will see a lot of guys pushed to do that, and they may struggle. They probably want to see if Hauser can be a solid threat as a starter. They want to see how the bigs platoon works out. They want to see if Scheierman can take some pressure off PP and White as a ball handler. So far he has struggled. This may be his ceiling, and he's bumping up against it. He may end up being best as a guy that comes in and spaces the floor and that's it.

[boscel33]

Scheierman started to show some potential late last year.  After the All-Star break, he averaged 5.5 points on 36.8% 3PT% / .545 TS% in 16 minutes.  He also showed some intuitive passing skills.

Since then he's looked like hot garbage in summer league and preseason.

Was the solid stretch last season a fluke?

(Nothing against Scheierman, but it still irritates me that Brad passed on Filipowski.)

Yes, someone in the same camp!  I've been saying this too.