NBA Season/Playoffs 2025-26

[MattyIce]

How can any team blow a 22 point lead with a quarter to go? These guys are professional & no way that should happen

u mean less than 8 minutes to go

[Donoghus]

Epic collapse. I credit NY for making the plays they needed to make, but blowing a 22-point lead in less than a quarter is a textbook choke job. Harden, Mitchell, Merrill, Mobley ? all of them suddenly couldn?t hit anything. Merrill committed a couple of silly fouls, Cavs made a couple of terrible turnovers, Mobley couldn?t defend the rim? I think Cleveland blew its chance at winning this series.

It was a really bad loss, but It?s only game 1. Cavs just took out the #1 seed in a game 7 in Detroit. They should still be confident.

You could be right. I?ve certainly been wrong plenty of times. It seems, though, like the kind of event that could destroy a team?s confidence.

Agreed.  That was Cleveland's game to steal.  They had momentum coming off Game 7 and were riding that energy.  The Knicks were showing their long layoff rust.   The opportunity was there in front of Cleveland to seize it and they absolutely choked it away. Now they'll be walking into Game 2 down a game in what will certainly be an insane MSG and the Knicks full of confidence.   Not a situation I'd want to be in as a Cavs fan.  Then again, that's a city who knows a thing or two about choke jobs.

[Moranis]

I know it wasn't quite as late, but I remember just lady year Boston was up 20 in the 2nd half against the Knicks game 1 at home. Knicks won in OT.  Very next game, Boston is again up 20 in the 2nd half.  Again blows the lead and loses game 2 at home. 3rd game of series, Boston is up 25 at halftime.  Boston wins that game by 22 and we all thought it was good. Boston up 11 at halftime of game 4. 3 minutes into 2nd half, lead up to 14.  Outscored by 22 the rest of the way to lose by 8 and Tatum gets hurt.  Boston wins game 5 by 25 before losing game 6 by 38. 

The next series in game 1, the Knicks are up 111-94 with just over 6 minutes left and we're up 119-105 with just under 3 minutes Ieft.  The Pacers won in OT.  Game 3 it was the Pacers turn to blow a 15 point 2nd half lead.

I say this because it is just 1 game and the Knicks obviously have a propensity to have wild swings in their games.  There is no reason thst Cleveland can't go up 20 again in game 2.  If they do, hopefully their coach calls a timeout and doesnt let them collapse with poor coaching decisions.

[Who]

ESPN using this James Harden stat again - more turnovers than field goals. This time they did a top 5 so interesting to see the other names on the list.

Edit: Player list from 2003 games onwards.

1 - Draymond - 43 games
1 - Perk - 43 games
3 - Ginobili - 34 games
4 - Harden - 32 games
5 - Kidd - 31 games

Fun to see Perk there. Not surprising.

Draymond not a shock. Kidd not a shock. Ginobili is surprising. Ginobili would have a shot diet similar to Harden with a lot of 3s and lot of FTs. I wonder how many of those 34 games with Manu came in his rookie year or late in his career when he wasn't playing as many minutes.

Edit: Ginobili had 36 games with less than 20 minutes in the playoffs. in those 36 games, he had 11 games with more turnovers than assists. He had another 3-4 games where his turnovers were equal to his field goals. He had another 7 games in 20-25min. So 18 of his 34 games with more turnovers than made shots came when he played less than 25 minutes (out of 73 games).

Edit 2: Harden only had 4 games with less than 20 minutes. 1 of those 4 games he had more turnovers than made shots. He had another 5 games with 20-25min. 1 of those 5 games had more turnovers than field goals. So only 9 games with under 25min in the playoffs and they only account for 2 of his games with more turnovers than made shots.

Edit 3: Ginobili played 218 playoff games. So he had 73 playoff games with under 25min. He had more turnovers than field goals in 18 of those 73 games (~25% of his games). In games where he played 25+min, Ginobili had 16 games out of 145 games (~11%) with more turnovers than made baskets.

Harden has played 188 playoff games. He had only 9 games with under 25min for 2 of his games (~22%) with more turnovers than field goals. So 30 games in his other 179 playoff games (~17%) with more turnovers than baskets.

Edit 4: Kidd only had 5 games with under 20min and 4 games with 20-25min. So 9 games. He had more turnovers than buckets in 6 of those 9 games. Haha. He played 158 playoff games minus 9 equals 149 playoff games with 25+min. In those games, he had 25 games with more turnovers than baskets (~17% - same as Harden).

Edit 5: Draymond did not play much to begin his career. Draymond has 10 games with under 20min (3gms). Another 8 with 20-25min (1gm). So 18 of his 169 playoff games with under 25min. So 4 out of 18 in the under 25min (~22%). So 39 out of 151 games (~26%) with over 25min.

Edit 6: I forgot the list was 2003 onwards. So Kidd would have played 42 playoff games by then. So 146 career playoff games down to 102 playoff games. He had his 31 games with more turnovers than assists in 102 games (~30%). Of the 102 games, he had 5 games with under 20min & another 4 games with under 25min. All with NYK in his final 2 years. 9 of his 12 Knicks playoff games. 7 of his 12 Knicks playoff games had more turnovers than assists. 6 of 9 in under 25min and 1 of 3 in over 25min. So Kidd had 24 such games in 90 games when he was playing big minutes (~27%).

[slamtheking]

ESPN using this James Harden stat again - more turnovers than field goals. This time they did a top 5 so interesting to see the other names on the list.

1 - Draymond - 43 games
1 - Perk - 43 games
3 - Ginobili - 34 games
4 - Harden - 32 games
5 - Kidd - 31 games

Fun to see Perk there. Not surprising.

Draymond not a shock. Kidd not a shock. Ginobili is surprising. Ginobili would have a shot diet similar to Harden with a lot of 3s and lot of FTs. I wonder how many of those 34 games with Manu came in his rookie year or late in his career when he wasn't playing as many minutes.

I'm surprised seeing Perk there.  not because he would get a number of field goals but because he rarely ever got the ball for anything other than a dunk -- when would he have it to turn it over?

[Who]

ESPN using this James Harden stat again - more turnovers than field goals. This time they did a top 5 so interesting to see the other names on the list.

1 - Draymond - 43 games
1 - Perk - 43 games
3 - Ginobili - 34 games
4 - Harden - 32 games
5 - Kidd - 31 games

Fun to see Perk there. Not surprising.

Draymond not a shock. Kidd not a shock. Ginobili is surprising. Ginobili would have a shot diet similar to Harden with a lot of 3s and lot of FTs. I wonder how many of those 34 games with Manu came in his rookie year or late in his career when he wasn't playing as many minutes.

I'm surprised seeing Perk there.  not because he would get a number of field goals but because he rarely ever got the ball for anything other than a dunk -- when would he have it to turn it over?

Illegal screens

[Donoghus]

ESPN using this James Harden stat again - more turnovers than field goals. This time they did a top 5 so interesting to see the other names on the list.

1 - Draymond - 43 games
1 - Perk - 43 games
3 - Ginobili - 34 games
4 - Harden - 32 games
5 - Kidd - 31 games

Fun to see Perk there. Not surprising.

Draymond not a shock. Kidd not a shock. Ginobili is surprising. Ginobili would have a shot diet similar to Harden with a lot of 3s and lot of FTs. I wonder how many of those 34 games with Manu came in his rookie year or late in his career when he wasn't playing as many minutes.

I'm surprised seeing Perk there.  not because he would get a number of field goals but because he rarely ever got the ball for anything other than a dunk -- when would he have it to turn it over?

Illegal screens

I'd imagine a fair share of travels too.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

ESPN using this James Harden stat again - more turnovers than field goals. This time they did a top 5 so interesting to see the other names on the list.

1 - Draymond - 43 games
1 - Perk - 43 games
3 - Ginobili - 34 games
4 - Harden - 32 games
5 - Kidd - 31 games

Fun to see Perk there. Not surprising.

Draymond not a shock. Kidd not a shock. Ginobili is surprising. Ginobili would have a shot diet similar to Harden with a lot of 3s and lot of FTs. I wonder how many of those 34 games with Manu came in his rookie year or late in his career when he wasn't playing as many minutes.

I'm surprised seeing Perk there.  not because he would get a number of field goals but because he rarely ever got the ball for anything other than a dunk -- when would he have it to turn it over?

He was a "stone hands" kind of guy. I remember seeing him fumble the ball fairly often when someone would try to slip him a bounce pass in the paint.

[Moranis]

Perkins only averaged 2.2 made FG's for his entire career. In the playoffs that droppped to just 2.0 made FG's.  His turnovers were 1.6 in regular sesson and 1.5 in playoffs. Thus Perkins is in the list because he never scored. 

Im surprised Rodman isn't on there.  He had all those deep playoff runs and didn't score much either. 

[Who]

Perkins only averaged 2.2 made FG's for his entire career. In the playoffs that droppped to just 2.0 made FG's.  His turnovers were 1.6 in regular sesson and 1.5 in playoffs. Thus Perkins is in the list because he never scored. 

Im surprised Rodman isn't on there.  He had all those deep playoff runs and didn't score much either.

Oh sorry. I forgot to add the list is only from 2003 onwards. That is why there is no Rodman or other older players.